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New Jersey To Tesla: You're Outta Here

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The New Jersey Motor Vehicle Commission voted Tuesday to ban the direct sale of vehicles in the state, becoming the third state in the nation to prevent Tesla from selling to consumers. That would force Tesla, founded by billionaire Elon Musk, to sell its cars through dealers.


Instead, Tesla will stop selling cars in New Jersey on April 1, according to Dow Jones. That means the auto company won’t have access to one of the nation’s most lucrative markets for luxury vehicles, while well-heeled New Jerseyites will have to pick up their Teslas somewhere else.

New Jersey To Tesla: You're Outta Here - Forbes



This is utter and complete bull****. Luckily though, karma just happens to be a nasty bitch. New Jersey, Texas, and Arizona will all probably lose out on the chance for a $5 billion mega factory by Tesla for passing these disgusting laws.

Thoughts?
 
New Jersey To Tesla: You're Outta Here - Forbes



This is utter and complete bull****. Luckily though, karma just happens to be a nasty bitch. New Jersey, Texas, and Arizona will all probably lose out on the chance for a $5 billion mega factory by Tesla for passing these disgusting laws.

Thoughts?

Go over the Ben Franklin or Bristol Bridge and get it in PA using a friend or relatives address. Jersey is one of those states where no matter where you live you can easily get to another state within a maximum of a 2 hours drive (that's accounting for traffic). The reason these states are not allowing direct sales probably has to do with tax money, fees or some interstate dollars that are due to the state's coffers - the gubamint wants their money.
 
Pretty sad.

I detest that Tesla got all that taxpayer money to start up.

But this is anti-free enterprise and blatant lobbyist pressure...which I also detest.
 
This is pretty ridiculous.
 
Go over the Ben Franklin or Bristol Bridge and get it in PA using a friend or relatives address. Jersey is one of those states where no matter where you live you can easily get to another state within a maximum of a 2 hours drive (that's accounting for traffic). The reason these states are not allowing direct sales probably has to do with tax money, fees or some interstate dollars that are due to the state's coffers - the gubamint wants their money.

And yet, that same gubamint is about to lose out on the potential bonanza in the $5B factory, as well as sales tax on these vehicles. It is a horrible move for the state.
 
New Jersey To Tesla: You're Outta Here - Forbes

This is utter and complete bull****. Luckily though, karma just happens to be a nasty bitch. New Jersey, Texas, and Arizona will all probably lose out on the chance for a $5 billion mega factory by Tesla for passing these disgusting laws.

Thoughts?

So the legislature has seen fit to forego who-knows-how-many great jobs to protect auto dealerships. Well, somebody will want them. If Tesla builds a plant in one of these states, I'll be very surprised.

I don't know how it is in other states, but the automobile dealerships quite some time ago got enough clout in the legislature to ban auto sales on Sundays. What kind of sense does that make for working families? Can't buy a car on a Sunday. Another special interest consideration at the expense of the populace. I actually didn't realize automobile dealerships had so much clout.
 
And yet, that same gubamint is about to lose out on the potential bonanza in the $5B factory, as well as sales tax on these vehicles. It is a horrible move for the state.

Well NJ wouldn't be in the running - taxes here and regulation even with Christie as Governor doesn't do much. NJ is a dark blue state. TX would have been in the running. They may go to one of the Southern States to expand.
 
Well NJ wouldn't be in the running - taxes here and regulation even with Christie as Governor doesn't do much. NJ is a dark blue state. TX would have been in the running. They may go to one of the Southern States to expand.

Did you read the article? They were in the running. Dark blue state, yeah yeah, but it is still a hot spot for luxury vehicles. Being close to your market saves costs.
 
Did you read the article? They were in the running. Dark blue state, yeah yeah, but it is still a hot spot for luxury vehicles. Being close to your market saves costs.

I've lived here most of my life - I believe selling them in NJ would be a boon, but putting an auto factory or assembly plant in NJ is a seriously bad decision. Proximity to NY, PA and MD as well as the NE corridor wouldn't make up for the negatives.
 
And this is why I laugh when republicrats tout how easy it is to apply free market solutions to people employment woes.

Hilarious.
 
I've lived here most of my life - I believe selling them in NJ would be a boon, but putting an auto factory or assembly plant in NJ is a seriously bad decision. Proximity to NY, PA and MD as well as the NE corridor wouldn't make up for the negatives.

They'd have to compete with the manufacturing unions set up up here that are fat off government contracts.
 
Well NJ wouldn't be in the running - taxes here and regulation even with Christie as Governor doesn't do much. NJ is a dark blue state. TX would have been in the running. They may go to one of the Southern States to expand.

Nope, most of them have the same rules in place and have had it for decades from what I have read and understand. Not the first time Tesla has hit this road block.
 
New Jersey To Tesla: You're Outta Here
Governor Chunk Chunky probably didn't get his suitcase full of money.
Bahdah Boom Bahdah Bing...
 
I don't know how it is in other states, but the automobile dealerships quite some time ago got enough clout in the legislature to ban auto sales on Sundays. What kind of sense does that make for working families? Can't buy a car on a Sunday. Another special interest consideration at the expense of the populace. I actually didn't realize automobile dealerships had so much clout.

I thought they actually would prefer to be open on Sunday? No?
 
The one thing I don't understand and I'd have to look into is that they're relying on franchise laws to prevent this, which would make sense to prevent the likes of GM/Ford etc from selling direct, since those dealerships exist, but if there's no dealership at all, there's no franchisee?
 
I thought they actually would prefer to be open on Sunday? No?

You'd think, wouldn't you? But that meant that the car salesmen didn't get a day off. The small ones were completely against closing on Sundays, but the big guys won.
 
I also thought that it was crazy move, but after reflection a bit, it seems as a move to protect the consumer. Would you want a car that has no dealer network for service? Where would one take the car for service?
 
I also thought that it was crazy move, but after reflection a bit, it seems as a move to protect the consumer. Would you want a car that has no dealer network for service? Where would one take the car for service?

I would suggest either a manufacturer owned dealership, or they'd have to have 'Tesla approved' service shops that would handle repairs/warranty claims.
 
I would suggest either a manufacturer owned dealership, or they'd have to have 'Tesla approved' service shops that would handle repairs/warranty claims.
I do not believe dealer ownership was or is the issue, only the need for them.
Tesla approved service would address the service aspect, but I do not believe that training and setting up a specialized service for such a radically different car would be financially practical. One might as well establish the dealership with the usual service facility.
 
I thought they actually would prefer to be open on Sunday? No?

When I worked at a dealership in california we would sell around 30 cars on a Sunday.

I don't see why a dealership would cut its own throat like that.
 
I do not believe dealer ownership was or is the issue, only the need for them.
Tesla approved service would address the service aspect, but I do not believe that training and setting up a specialized service for such a radically different car would be financially practical. One might as well establish the dealership with the usual service facility.

I was thinking the same thing.

With a problem-prone car like the Tesla, there should be a dealership with a service department on every corner.
 
The reason these states are not allowing direct sales probably has to do with tax money, fees or some interstate dollars that are due to the state's coffers - the gubamint wants their money.

I would think it is more the result of pressure from Auto Dealership Lobbyists. They would be denied their 'piece of the action'.
 
but putting an auto factory or assembly plant in NJ is a seriously bad decision.

:lamo

Yeah, not much industry in NJ, right?
 
When I worked at a dealership in california we would sell around 30 cars on a Sunday.

I don't see why a dealership would cut its own throat like that.

Well, I don't either. Speculation? Bergen County still has retail blue laws in effect which act to close malls. Perhaps car dealers there lobbied to be open on Sunday or for entire state to be closed Sunday?
 
:lamo

Yeah, not much industry in NJ, right?

Most left, and there used to be auto factories here, but they all left, GM Linden, Ford Mahwah and there was another one Ford Edgewater which closed much earlier.
 
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