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OVERTIME OVERHAUL Obama reportedly to issue order expanding eligibility

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President Obama, flexing his executive authority once again, plans to order the Labor Department to expand overtime pay requirements to include millions more workers -- in a move likely to rankle the business community.
The president plans to make the announcement on Thursday at the White House, a senior administration official confirmed to Fox News. Though the administration has claimed previous executive actions had bipartisan support, officials are acknowledging that this particular move will anger business groups and congressional Republicans.
Bribing votes with other peoples money, the progressive way.
 

Well, frankly, I think something should be done. Companies too often pay salaries and then expect sixty hours a week with no comp time. Just exactly how fair is that?

Folks, I think we're just going to have to get used to paying more for things. Workers need some help to assure their fair treatment. It's time we all realized that.

I was offered a managerial job ten-plus years ago. The offer letter came to me with a salary promise, description of benefits, and a caveat that I would be expected to work sixty hours a week. So, I'll ask again: Just exactly how fair is that?
 
Expecting to be paid for your work? How terrible. Obviously, your employer should have the right to own you. I mean, who wants to work harder and longer to make more money?

(FYI, you only get OT if you already have a job.)

Yes cause up until now, youve been owned qnd abused by your employer! Thank goodness that king obama is here to set us free!


Btw emotionally driver drivel like yours misses the point but I guess its easier then a coherant argument
 
Yes cause up until now, youve been owned qnd abused by your employer! Thank goodness that king obama is here to set us free!


Btw emotionally driver drivel like yours misses the point but I guess its easier then a coherant argument

So what would be your coherent argument against it? What is your argument against people working harder and earning money?
 
Expecting to be paid for your work? How terrible. Obviously, your employer should have the right to own you. I mean, who wants to work harder and longer to make more money?

(FYI, you only get OT if you already have a job.)

Straight to hyperbole in post #2!

I like being salaried because it gives me more flexibility in scheduling my time. I normally work 40-45 hours a week and am certainly not "owned". I've worked a number of salaried jobs in the last 20 years and was never required to work an exorbitant number of hours.
 
Well, frankly, I think something should be done. Companies too often pay salaries and then expect sixty hours a week with no comp time. Just exactly how fair is that?

Folks, I think we're just going to have to get used to paying more for things. Workers need some help to assure their fair treatment. It's time we all realized that.

I was offered a managerial job ten-plus years ago. The offer letter came to me with a salary promise, description of benefits, and a caveat that I would be expected to work sixty hours a week. So, I'll ask again: Just exactly how fair is that?

You forced to work for those wages or conditions? No jyst wait for government to fix it for ya! Gotta hand it to the king, doesnt matrer the negative real world damage he's doing, it feels good to emotionally vulnerable helpless folks who cant function unless government makes it FAIR.
 
I was offered a managerial job ten-plus years ago. The offer letter came to me with a salary promise, description of benefits, and a caveat that I would be expected to work sixty hours a week. So, I'll ask again: Just exactly how fair is that?

Did you take the job?
 
I just saw the episode of "Between The Ferns" interview with Obama and I ask does he possess any sense of dignity for the office? As the first and probably last black president he has all but trashed the position through violations of the constitution and behavior more suited to a 15 year old pot head.
 
Well, frankly, I think something should be done. Companies too often pay salaries and then expect sixty hours a week with no comp time. Just exactly how fair is that?

Folks, I think we're just going to have to get used to paying more for things. Workers need some help to assure their fair treatment. It's time we all realized that.

I was offered a managerial job ten-plus years ago. The offer letter came to me with a salary promise, description of benefits, and a caveat that I would be expected to work sixty hours a week. So, I'll ask again: Just exactly how fair is that?

Guess it depends on if it was worth it money wise. Least they told you up front.

My Wife works as a salaried employee but, she simply refuses to work longer hours. Instead, she outworks everyone else with no complaints.
 
You forced to work for those wages or conditions? No jyst wait for government to fix it for ya! Gotta hand it to the king, doesnt matter the negative real world damage he's doing, it feels good to emotionally vulnerable helpless folks who cant function unless government makes it FAIR.

Mr. Vicchio, I've been an entrepreneur my whole life. I didn't take that job, by the way.

What is government good for if not to even the playing field? Would you do away with the minimum wage? Go back to "We don't hire blacks"? "Women need not apply"? No overtime for anyone? Let employers give themselves perks while excluding their workers because they can? Depend on the largess of employers to see the light? It didn't work before, and it won't work now.

Go work at a factory in India and tell me how well it works when employers are left to their own devices. Is that really the kind of country you want to live in? Really??

Now surely there are degrees of interference. But making sure that companies don't skirt overtime requirements simply by putting someone on salary and telling them they're stupidvisors doesn't seem too much interference to me.
 
Expecting to be paid for your work? How terrible. Obviously, your employer should have the right to own you. I mean, who wants to work harder and longer to make more money?

(FYI, you only get OT if you already have a job.)

If you take a salaried position, you take the flexibility it brings: work any amount of time during the week, get paid the same. "Executive" positions are almost exclusively salaried.
 
Just another in a long list of reasons for companies to outsource overseas.

So many Americans want to have this great life, but they don't want to do the work required to get it. And they're too stupid to recognize the con job Democrats continue to sell them.
 
I just saw the episode of "Between The Ferns" interview with Obama and I ask does he possess any sense of dignity for the office? As the first and probably last black president he has all but trashed the position through violations of the constitution and behavior more suited to a 15 year old pot head.

You ask this question because you're viewing him through partisan crazy lenses.
 
Mr. Vicchio, I've been an entrepreneur my whole life. I didn't take that job, by the way.

What is government good for if not to even the playing field? Would you do away with the minimum wage? Go back to "We don't hire blacks"? "Women need not apply"? No overtime for anyone? Let employers give themselves perks while excluding their workers because they can? Depend on the largess of employers to see the light? It didn't work before, and it won't work now.

Go work at a factory in India and tell me how well it works when employers are left to their own devices. Is that really the kind of country you want to live in? Really??

Now surely there are degrees of interference. But making sure that companies don't skirt overtime requirements simply by putting someone on salary and telling them they're stupidvisors doesn't seem too much interference to me.

This isnt evening anything. Its forcing businesses to increase costs for "social justice" not business needs. This makes all ready jittery businesses morre afraid. Business thrives when conditions are stable. This is another destabilizing diktate. You are drawn to the emotional arguememt of "fairness" and you dont give a damn if everyone has to pay more, you dont give a damn if opportunity is lost to others you see "fairness" and personal short term gain. That sort of short sighted, selfish emotionally driven thinking is why this country is 17 trillion in debt.
 
My company saw this coming a year ago. People on my team used to be exempt analysts. But the company was so afraid of being sued by Obama/NLRB, that they changed any borderline exmpt positions to non-exempt. My whole team hates it, as we far preferred being exempted.
 
This isnt evening anything. Its forcing businesses to increase costs for "social justice" not business needs. This makes all ready jittery businesses morre afraid. Business thrives when conditions are stable. This is another destabilizing diktate. You are drawn to the emotional arguememt of "fairness" and ypu dont give a damn if everyone has to pay more, you dont gibe a damn if opportunity is lost to others you see "fairness" and personal short term gain. That sort of short sighted, selfish emotionally driven thinking is why this country is 17 trillion in debt.

No, you're right. I don't care if it costs me a surcharge of 20-cents on my fast-food order so that employees can have health insurance. Or an extra 10%. I don't care of my loaf of bread costs 50-cents more. I don't care if it costs me another $3 to mow my lawn so the Mexicans who don't speak English and whose job prospects are limited and sweat their asses off to cut it can make $10 an hour instead of $7.25.

I guess that makes me a bad person.
 
My company saw this coming a year ago. People on my team used to be exempt analysts. But the company was so afraid of being sued by Obama/NLRB, that they changed any borderline exmpt positions to non-exempt. My whole team hates it, as we far preferred being exempted.

Why would you prefer being exempt?
 
Expecting to be paid for your work? How terrible. Obviously, your employer should have the right to own you. I mean, who wants to work harder and longer to make more money?

(FYI, you only get OT if you already have a job.)

Well said.
The idea that you should get paid for the extra work you put in over and above your normal hours and pay seems to be a radical one for the right.
 
Straight to hyperbole in post #2!

I like being salaried because it gives me more flexibility in scheduling my time. I normally work 40-45 hours a week and am certainly not "owned". I've worked a number of salaried jobs in the last 20 years and was never required to work an exorbitant number of hours.

If you work 40 hours, you're not working overtime. But if you've earned that money through your hard work, it's not someone else's money as stated in the OP.
 
Mr. Vicchio, I've been an entrepreneur my whole life. I didn't take that job, by the way.

What is government good for if not to even the playing field? Would you do away with the minimum wage? Go back to "We don't hire blacks"? "Women need not apply"? No overtime for anyone? Let employers give themselves perks while excluding their workers because they can? Depend on the largess of employers to see the light? It didn't work before, and it won't work now.

Go work at a factory in India and tell me how well it works when employers are left to their own devices. Is that really the kind of country you want to live in? Really??

Now surely there are degrees of interference. But making sure that companies don't skirt overtime requirements simply by putting someone on salary and telling them they're stupidvisors doesn't seem too much interference to me.

Salaried employees are paid a flat rate regardless of how many hours they work that week. 'Time off' for things like doctors appointments, illness, long lunch, whatever, doesn't reduce your pay. Salary is more about being goal oriented then clock watching.

IMO, salaried employees are more productive then hourly. There may be times when more hours are needed to complete something, and times when it's not. The employer knows their labor costs regardless of the number of hours to complete the job/project.

But to each her own.

Once more, if this is true, the current administration is jeopardizing full time employment. After all, why pay someone salary if there will be mandatory add ons? Back to hourly.... and two part timers is cheaper then one full timer plus overtime. ;)
 
Well, frankly, I think something should be
done. Companies too often pay salaries and then expect sixty hours a week with no comp time. Just exactly how fair is that?

Folks, I think we're just going to have to get used to paying more for things. Workers need some help to assure their fair treatment. It's time we all realized that.

I was offered a managerial job ten-plus years ago. The offer letter came to me with a salary promise, description of benefits, and a caveat that I would be expected to work sixty hours a week. So, I'll ask again: Just exactly how fair is that?

How does increasing cost for goods and services help workers ?

And when was it ever the job of the Federal government to be the ultimate arbiter of equality and "fairness" ?

A across the board cost increase so the Democrats can follow through with their destructive narratives on " equity" hurts the poor and middle class the most.
 
You forced to work for those wages or conditions? No jyst wait for government to fix it for ya! Gotta hand it to the king, doesnt matrer the negative real world damage he's doing, it feels good to emotionally vulnerable helpless folks who cant function unless government makes it FAIR.

That's a coherent, non-emotional argument....:lamo
 
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