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Is the Republican Party in danger of dying out?

MildSteel said:
Yep a white man in a red tie is a KKK member sounds pretty stupid.
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well it WAS a democrat theme of the 90's

as is the CURRENT themes.... war on women, Blacks, Hispanics, the poor, and many of the other stupidity being permeated in our society, no wonder its is failing.
 
Is the Republican party in danger of disappearing? Of course not. The reason we have two parties is so that there can be an alternative to the party in power. They take turns messing things up. The party in power messes things up. People switch to the other party. Then they mess things up. Back and forth. Nobody ever fixes the politicians. It is like perpetual motion machine.
 
fmw said:
Is the Republican party in danger of disappearing? Of course not. The reason we have two parties is so that there can be an alternative to the party in power. They take turns messing things up. The party in power messes things up. People switch to the other party. Then they mess things up. Back and forth. Nobody ever fixes the politicians. It is like perpetual motion machine.
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LMAO @ perpetual motion machine!!!
 
prometeus said:
I found this gem and it does not look as rosy as you think it is:Actually, Mitt, even a lot of white voters didn't want you - CNN.com
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Roland Martin is a putz. I'm not name-calling here, he really is a mental midget. He points to the whiteness of the Romney campaign staff but somehow doesn't think that the whiteness of the Obama reelection campaign team is noteworthy?

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Then he points to the embarrassing fact that voters in very white states overwhelmingly voted for Obama. Um yeah, these people view black people on TV and think of the Cosby Show. It's a damning indictment of liberals that the further away they live from blacks and other minorities the more likely they are to support Obama. Something about living in close proximity to diversity erodes all that good liberalism.

Regardless, he did get one point correct - Romney won 59% of the white vote.

Why didn't he tell us how much of the white male vote Obama won? Why is the onus on Romney to capture the minority vote but Obama gets a free pass on trying to appeal to white male voters?
 
The lower 50 percent Mitt???

Poor Mitt. Guy looks so uptight.
 
In all fairness to Mitt, I remember when one prominent conservative said "we are the party of the barons." LOL

Mitt was just speaking from the heart.
 
I keep hearing various conservative pundits, talking heads, etc.

Say that if the republican party would just follow conservative guidelines on fiscal policy and social policy, they'd be elected easily.

Just once I'd like to see them try, to prove whether that's true or not.
 
The Mark said:
I keep hearing various conservative pundits, talking heads, etc.

Say that if the republican party would just follow conservative guidelines on fiscal policy and social policy, they'd be elected easily.

Just once I'd like to see them try, to prove whether that's true or not.
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Wisconsin has a $1 billion surplus this year.

Frankly, I think the US is beyond salvage and is going to break up.
 
RiverDad said:
Wisconsin has a $1 billion surplus this year.

Frankly, I think the US is beyond salvage and is going to break up.
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We're too lazy.
 
RiverDad said:
Wisconsin has a $1 billion surplus this year.

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Um, false.

Wisconsin is projected to have a $1 billion surplus at the end of the two-year budget period covering July 2013 to July 2015 -- almost all of it because tax collections are rising faster than expected, the nonpartisan Legislative Fiscal Bureau said in January.
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2015 is NOT this year.
Wisconsin Democratic Party says state budget surpluses common nationally | PolitiFact Wisconsin

And not like Wisconsin is the only state experiencing surpluses - from the same link:
We asked Democratic Party spokesperson Melissa Baldauff to back up the claim of "higher than expected tax revenues and projected budget surpluses in nearly every state."

She cited an Associated Press story from January 2014 that said that "almost all states will see fairly decent surpluses" in their 2014 budgets. That story quoted the National Association of State Budget Officers (NASBO).

We followed up with Scott Pattison, executive director of the budget officer’s group. He confirmed the projection. The 2013 stock market surge will goose income tax collections, Pattison said, and many states budgeted conservatively for 2014, not foreseeing the market’s runup.

That, he said, means surpluses are in store for fiscal year 2014, which for most states ends by mid-year.

And that comes on the heels of the 2013 budget year in which "37 states exceeded original (revenue) forecasts, six states were on target and seven states ended fiscal 2013 below the original revenue estimate," according to the nonpartisan budget association’s December 2013 report, "The Fiscal Survey of States." Baldauff also cited that report.

The revenue windfalls meant surpluses were common, the report said.
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and by the way - sounds like he'll need that money to cover the following couple years -
Mary Burke says Wisconsin has gone from $700 million surplus to a $750 million deficit | PolitiFact Wisconsin
Burke said the state is going from a $700 million surplus "to getting into the next biennium with almost a $750 million deficit."

Her numbers check out, and she properly identifies a big swing in Walker’s budgeting, but -- like Walker’s similar claim -- there’s a problem because the two numbers aren’t easily compared.

We rate her claim Half True.
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The Mark said:
I keep hearing various conservative pundits, talking heads, etc.

Say that if the republican party would just follow conservative guidelines on fiscal policy and social policy, they'd be elected easily.

Just once I'd like to see them try, to prove whether that's true or not.
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Interesting take, I agree on fiscal policy, and even defense-but on social policy Id like to see a more libertarian lean-at least thats the type of conservative I am.
 
US Conservative said:
Interesting take, I agree on fiscal policy, and even defense-but on social policy Id like to see a more libertarian lean-at least thats the type of conservative I am.
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It's almost impossible to keep a coherent society together under a conservative fiscal policy, strong defense policy and a libertine social policy for the incohesiveness which arises from the social realm works to fragment society and thus undermines the coherence which disciplines fiscal and defense policy.

It's like saying someone wants uniformity and variety at the same time.

The better policy is to take the good with the bad instead of trying to lump together fragmented good pieces into some Frankensteinian creation.
 
RiverDad said:
It's almost impossible to keep a coherent society together under a conservative fiscal policy, strong defense policy and a libertine social policy for the incohesiveness which arises from the social realm works to fragment society and thus undermines the coherence which disciplines fiscal and defense policy.

It's like saying someone wants uniformity and variety at the same time.

The better policy is to take the good with the bad instead of trying to lump together fragmented good pieces into some Frankensteinian creation.
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I said libertarian, not libertine. And I dont want uniformity, I want conservatism. Indeed here in CA, young conservatives are rare as hens teeth.

I hear you, but conservatism has often had a libertarian view towards social policy, at least traditional conservatism has, as opposed to religious conservatism. As for your last line your opinion is noted.
 
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So long as the Tea partiers and the religious extremists control the GOP, they will be marginalized but not dying.
 
MildSteel said:
The fact is that it is well documented. And anyone that has taken the time to look in the matter would agree. I have given sources to back this claim up. You don't find it comfortable to believe the truth here. There is an old saying in this regard, you can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make him drink.
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You have provided lefty sources who have an interest in broadcasting the claim. For most people that's just advocacy noise.:peace
 
fmw said:
Is the Republican party in danger of disappearing? Of course not. The reason we have two parties is so that there can be an alternative to the party in power. They take turns messing things up. The party in power messes things up. People switch to the other party. Then they mess things up. Back and forth. Nobody ever fixes the politicians. It is like perpetual motion machine.
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Hence why, IMO, we need a Centrist Party. The GOP has gone insane, which now leaves us no real alternative but to elect corrupt Democrats--like Terry McCaulif in Virginia.

If the electorate want to evict a democrat, more often than not they are stuck with a Tea Nut, if not another crazy, backwards thinking Republican, who believes rape can't result in pregnancy or wants to impose Putin-like sanctions on gays, as the alternative. That, my friends, sucks.
 
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calamity said:
Hence why, IMO, we need a Centrist Party. The GOP has gone insane, which now leaves us no real alternative but to elect corrupt Democrats--like Terry McCaulif in Virginia.

If the electorate want to evict a democrat, more often than not they are stuck with a Tea Nut, if not another crazy, backwards thinking Republican, who believes rape can't result in pregnancy or wants to impose Putin-like sanctions on gays, as the alternative. That, my friends, sucks.
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There is almost no one in the Repub party who "believes rape can't result in pregnancy or wants to impose Putin-like sanctions on gays," so you should really drop the baseless hyperbole. That sort of thoughtless mud-slinging has been the Dems' stock in trade since their defeat in 2010 but it won't save them in 2014.:peace
 
Jack Hays said:
There is almost no one in the Repub party who "believes rape can't result in pregnancy or wants to impose Putin-like sanctions on gays," so you should really drop the baseless hyperbole.
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The counterpart to his attack is to claim that a wide swath of Democrats believe that islands float on the ocean and that if we put too many troops on an island in the Pacific that the island will capsize. Sure, one Democratic Party Congressman believes this and stated this in a hearing, but we didn't see an army of Democrats come to the defense of that idea just like we didn't see an army of Republicans come to the defense of the rape/pregnancy statement.
 
Jack Hays said:
You have provided lefty sources who have an interest in broadcasting the claim. For most people that's just advocacy noise.:peace
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And you have an interest in making the unsubstantiated claim that it's false. For most people your claim is nonsense.
 
MildSteel said:
And you have an interest in making the unsubstantiated claim that it's false. For most people your claim is nonsense.
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I have no party and no interest involved. I'm more than happy to let others decide what is a valid point and what is not. You are an advocate; I am simply an analyst.:peace
 
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