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Malaysia Airlines says Lost Contact with Plane carrying 239 people

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Looks like the Boeing 777 has gone down.
Search and rescue underway.
2-2.5 hours into Kuala Lumpur to Beijing flight would put it over SE Asia somewhere.
239 may have perished.
No reports of Americans on board yet.
Chinese say there are 160 of their Nationals aboard among the 13 Nationalities reported aboard by the airline.
Unusually little info so far/app 10 hours in.
Press conference coming shortly.
(Info from watching Megan Kelly/Fox)

Malaysia Airlines says lost contact with plane carrying 239 people | Reuters
BY STUART GRUDGINGS
KUALA LUMPUR Fri Mar 7, 2014 9:44pm EST

(Reuters) - A Malaysia Airlines flight carrying 227 passengers and 12 crew lost contact with air traffic controllers early on Saturday en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, the airline said in a statement.

"Malaysia Airlines is currently working with the authorities who have activated their search-and-rescue teams to locate the aircraft," it said.

Flight MH 370, operating a Boeing B777-200 aircraft departed Kuala Lumpur at 12.21 a.m. (1621 GMT Friday) and had been expected to land in the Chinese capital at 6.30 a.m. (2230 GMT) the same day.

The airline said the flight had lost contact with Malaysian air traffic controllers at 2.40 a.m., just over two hours into the flight.

China's CCTV said 160 Chinese nationals were onboard the flight, according to microblogging website Weibo.

Chinese state TV also reported there had not been any reports received yet about any aircraft crashed in Chinese waters.

State news agency Xinhua reported radar contact with the flight was lost while it was in Vietnamese airspace.

If the plane is found to have crashed, the loss would mark the second fatal accident involving a Boeing 777 in less than a year, after an unblemished safety record since the jet entered service in 1995.".."

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1 OF 2. A woman (C), believed to be the relative of a passenger onboard Malaysia Airlines flight MH370,
covers her face as she cries at the Beijing Capital International Airport in Beijing March 8, 2014.

CREDIT: REUTERS/KIM KYUNG-HOON
 
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This is just terrible. My thoughts are with the passengers, crew and their family members.

Australia Media are reporting..

China's state media say Vietnamese authorities have detected signals from the missing Malaysia Airlines plane.

As well as the seven Australians, a spokesman for the airline said those on board included 153 from China, 38 from Malaysia, 12 from Indonesia, three from France, four from the US, two each from New Zealand, Ukraine and Canada, and one each from Russia, Italy, Taiwan, Netherlands and Austria.

Signal detected from missing plane
 
This is just terrible. My thoughts are with the passengers, crew and their family members.

Australia Media are reporting..

That has been denied.No signal picked up from missing Malaysia Airlines plane-Vietnam official | Reuters

But, some interesting info on that particular plane:

The missing plane is believed to have been involved in a crash in August, 2012, when it damaged the tail of a China Eastern Airlines plane at Shanghai Pudong Airport, according to unconfirmed reports.
In the incident, the tip of the wing of the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 broke off.

Seven Australians among 239 people feared dead after Malaysia Airlines plane goes missing


BTW, last Thursday, I was on a plane that had some nasty damage on it about 10 years ago, it was being worked on in the hangar, and up on jacks, the nose landing gear wasn't properly deployed when it was lowered, and the nose crashed into the ground, lot of work to fix when you think of the structural integrity, etc. Sometimes, knowing the planes by their numbers is not a good thing :).
 
Seems to be conflicting information WRT the signal and whether it landed or not. Based on what I'm reading my guess is "not".
 
Navy has confirmed plane crashed into sea, says Vietnam media

UPDATE [12:37]: Tuoi Tre, a leading daily in Vietnam, reports that the Vietnamese Navy has confirmed the plane crashed into the ocean. According to Navy Admiral Ngo Van Phat, Commander of the Region 5, military radar recorded that the plane crashed into the sea at a location 153 miles South of Phu Quoc island.

When contacted, Malaysia Airlines declined to confirm or deny the reports, saying that the Malaysian authorities are working together with the Vietnamese government on the matter.

Meanwhile, Al Jazeera reports that China has dispatched two maritime rescue ships to help locate the missing plane.

#PrayForMH370: Navy has confirmed plane crashed into sea, says Vietnam media
 
A 777 crashing enroute? Incredibly unusual. Particularly without thunderstorms in the area, it takes something pretty serious to down an airplane like that with no communication as to what's happening.
 
Navy has confirmed plane crashed into sea, says Vietnam media

UPDATE [12:37]: Tuoi Tre, a leading daily in Vietnam, reports that the Vietnamese Navy has confirmed the plane crashed into the ocean. According to Navy Admiral Ngo Van Phat, Commander of the Region 5, military radar recorded that the plane crashed into the sea at a location 153 miles South of Phu Quoc island.

When contacted, Malaysia Airlines declined to confirm or deny the reports, saying that the Malaysian authorities are working together with the Vietnamese government on the matter.

Meanwhile, Al Jazeera reports that China has dispatched two maritime rescue ships to help locate the missing plane.

#PrayForMH370: Navy has confirmed plane crashed into sea, says Vietnam media

Back in the day I visited Phu Quoc island and its town An Thoi.
 
Back in the day I visited Phu Quoc island and its town An Thoi.

I was going to go there once, but went up to Siam Reap...love that area.
 
Looks like the Boeing 777 has gone down.
Search and rescue underway.
2-2.5 hours into Kuala Lumpur to Beijing flight would put it over SE Asia somewhere.
239 may have perished.
No reports of Americans on board yet.
Chinese say there are 160 of their Nationals aboard among the 13 Nationalities reported aboard by the airline.
Unusually little info so far/app 10 hours in.
Press conference coming shortly.
(Info from watching Megan Kelly/Fox)

Malaysia Airlines says lost contact with plane carrying 239 people | Reuters
BY STUART GRUDGINGS
KUALA LUMPUR Fri Mar 7, 2014 9:44pm EST



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1 OF 2. A woman (C), believed to be the relative of a passenger onboard Malaysia Airlines flight MH370,
covers her face as she cries at the Beijing Capital International Airport in Beijing March 8, 2014.

CREDIT: REUTERS/KIM KYUNG-HOON

Interesting up;date:

Those aboard included 152 passengers from China, 38 from Malaysia, seven from Indonesia, six from Australia, five from India, three from the U.S., and others from France, New Zealand, Canada, Ukraine, Russia, Italy, Taiwan, the Netherlands and Austria.

Foreign ministry officials in Italy and Austria said the names of two nationals from those countries listed on the flight's manifest matched passports reported stolen in Thailand.

Makes a body go, "Hmmmm...."
 
I suspect its a terrorist attack or the Plane was hijacked and flown off and landed somewhere so it can be fitted with large explosives.

The transponder was disabled. Thats suppposed to be impossible.
 
I suspect its a terrorist attack or the Plane was hijacked and flown off and landed somewhere so it can be fitted with large explosives.

The transponder was disabled. Thats suppposed to be impossible.

Let me guess.. you just watched or read a Tom Clancy novel?
 
Let me guess.. you just watched or read a Tom Clancy novel?

I'm not going to entertain fantastic tales of a jet the size of a 777 dreamliner as being landed at the county airpark, and rolled into a secret hanger, but there is this:

"The two men travelling on stolen passports on the Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 that mysteriously disappeared on Saturday have been identified as Iranian nationals."

Mystery fake-passport holders on flight MH370 were Iranian - Telegraph
 
I'm not going to entertain fantastic tales of a jet the size of a 777 dreamliner as being landed at the county airpark, and rolled into a secret hanger, but there is this:

"The two men travelling on stolen passports on the Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 that mysteriously disappeared on Saturday have been identified as Iranian nationals."

Mystery fake-passport holders on flight MH370 were Iranian - Telegraph

They believe one of them was trying to Migrate to Germany with his mother (who is already there).

Missing Malaysian airliner: One stolen passport holder Iranian - Hindustan Times

"We believe he is not likely to be a member of any terror group and we believe he was trying to migrate to Germany," said Malaysia's national police chief Khalid Abu Bakar. - See more at: Missing Malaysian airliner: One stolen passport holder Iranian - Hindustan Times
 
Im not sure what the stats are but hasnt every type of plane thats flown has had at least one catastrophic failure at one time? The Boeing 777 hasnt had one yet so the law of average seems to have taken effect here.
 
I'm not going to entertain fantastic tales of a jet the size of a 777 dreamliner as being landed at the county airpark, and rolled into a secret hanger, but there is this:

"The two men travelling on stolen passports on the Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 that mysteriously disappeared on Saturday have been identified as Iranian nationals."

Mystery fake-passport holders on flight MH370 were Iranian - Telegraph

Yes... and? Are you saying that all Iranians are terrorists?
 
I suspect its a terrorist attack or the Plane was hijacked and flown off and landed somewhere so it can be fitted with large explosives.

The transponder was disabled. Thats suppposed to be impossible.

An explosion would have left a debris trail. This plane went down mostly intact. Its at the bottom of the ocean.
 
My own idea is that perhaps an engine fell off the plane like that DC-10 years ago... since the plane has only two big engines this would throw the weight and balance off so far the plane would go into an instant death spiral that no one could right. Also, it would make it difficult to call the ATC getting tossed around so violently and in a futile effort struggling to regain control.

The engine would sink leaving little or no debris and the plane would hit the water whole...

Perhaps that was the "turn" they saw: The plane in it's death spiral before it went below radar.

Thx :)
 
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An explosion would have left a debris trail. This plane went down mostly intact.
Its at the bottom of the ocean.

No way.

Remember the airfrance plane that went down ?

Hit the water doing 90 MPH and broke up. Killed over 220 people.

They drug the tail out in one piece amd loaded it onto a barge.

If that plane hit the water doing 400 plus, even if it went straight down there would be debris.

And a oil slick.
 
No, but apparently you're saying all Iranians have fake passports.

No I am not.. tsk. But people who want to get into countries illegally do... and they were not fake, but stolen. And no terrorist would use a stolen passport.. fake maybe, but stolen no. Way too big a chance for it to pop on a screen when entering a country (unlike when leaving as we have seen).
 
No way.

Remember the airfrance plane that went down ?

Hit the water doing 90 MPH and broke up. Killed over 220 people.

They drug the tail out in one piece amd loaded it onto a barge.

If that plane hit the water doing 400 plus, even if it went straight down there would be debris.

And a oil slick.



Just learned on radio this has happened before. In 2009 an Air France Airbus went down after leaving Rio:

Air France Flight 447 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


What is different here is that there is no inflight automatic data.

surprising also is the established cause of that crash:

The final report, released at a news conference on 5 July 2012,[7][8] stated that the aircraft crashed after temporary inconsistencies between the airspeed measurements—likely due to the aircraft's pitot tubes being obstructed by ice crystals—caused the autopilot to disconnect, after which the crew reacted incorrectly and ultimately led the aircraft to an aerodynamic stall from which they did not recover.[7][9][10]
 
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