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U.S. Senate Republicans block veterans' health bill on budget worry

Boo Radley said:
(Reuters) - U.S. Senate Republicans blocked legislation on Thursday that would have expanded federal healthcare and education programs for veterans, saying the $24 billion bill would bust the budget.

U.S. Senate Republicans block veterans' health bill on budget worry | Reuters

I'm glad we put veterans above all else.
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When do the benefit expansions come to an end for veterans? Yes thank you for serving our country, now please allow us all to place you upon an alter above mere mortals.:roll:
 
reinoe said:
When do the benefit expansions come to an end for veterans? Yes thank you for serving our country, now please allow us all to place you upon an alter above mere mortals.:roll:
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Not sure they ever should end. These were received largely doing our work, and not just on their own.
 
Boo Radley said:
Not sure they ever should end. These were received largely doing our work, and not just on their own.
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Never end? So you just support endless entitlements. Enlisted today make greAt money, have educational/ training options, endless praise from the public, etc. And now you want blank checks given to them.

Promise me you'll never be in charge of a budget.
 
Gipper said:
Never end? So you just support endless entitlements. Enlisted today make greAt money, have educational/ training options, endless praise from the public, etc. And now you want blank checks given to them.

Promise me you'll never be in charge of a budget.
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Damn right. Some died. Others have life long problems, and in this case, for an unnecessary war. We can step up and care for them. Put some substance to the platitude that support the troops.
 
How dare those vets who have been injured fighting for our country feel entitled to have their wounds treated for free!!
 
Rep. Ryan/Sen. Murray put out a budget this past December.
A decrease in the increase of COLA was included, about a $6 billion saving.
The affected groups of DEMs and GOPs went ape-****.
Both parties blamed the other.
Neither party knows what to do with defense.

As my GOP Rep. said today, nearly 1/2 of defense is for bennies.
Yet the POTUSA got burned once before putting out chained CPI of SS, with GOPs stabbing him.
He didn't put that out there this time .
Gipper said:
Never end? So you just support endless entitlements. Enlisted today make greAt money, have educational/ training options, endless praise from the public, etc. And now you want blank checks given to them.

Promise me you'll never be in charge of a budget.
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Boo Radley said:
Damn right. Some died. Others have life long problems, and in this case, for an unnecessary war. We can step up and care for them. Put some substance to the platitude that support the troops.
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The troops are already supported without us conjuring up new benefits. You realize that many of these benefits are for life right? Give five years of service for A LIFETIME OF BENEFITS? Yeah, methinks you don't manage your household's finances.

Unnecessary war? Are you referring to Iraq?
 
Since I've been there with a Vet from 1974 until he died 2012, I've got all the stories.
It was very intense getting him care when Iraq was going full-steam last decade at Hines VA near Maywood, IL.
We could have paid more than the 1/5 of his VA Home costs when he went in for good in 2008.
Just as we can handle chained CPI of Mom's SS as well as more of her assisted living now.
It must be means-tested, but we're too incompetent as a Nation to do that .
sangha said:
How dare those vets who have been injured fighting for our country feel entitled to have their wounds treated for free!!
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reinoe said:
The troops are already supported without us conjuring up new benefits. You realize that many of these benefits are for life right? Give five years of service for A LIFETIME OF BENEFITS? Yeah, methinks you don't manage your household's finances.

Unnecessary war? Are you referring to Iraq?
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I don't know that the bill created any new benefits. If you do, could you explain what those new benefits are?
 
reinoe said:
The troops are already supported without us conjuring up new benefits. You realize that many of these benefits are for life right? Give five years of service for A LIFETIME OF BENEFITS? Yeah, methinks you don't manage your household's finances.

Unnecessary war? Are you referring to Iraq?
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Last question first: yes, Iraq.

And yes, for five years of service. Especially where harm was caused. Yes, for life.
 
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reinoe said:
The troops are already supported without us conjuring up new benefits. You realize that many of these benefits are for life right? Give five years of service for A LIFETIME OF BENEFITS? Yeah, methinks you don't manage your household's finances.
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What do you say to a wounded warrior and his/her family who will never fully recover from his/her injuries and are affected for life?
What do you say to the spuses and kids of all the Veterans who come home and then commit suicide?

You should visit a VA hospital to see what these people are going through.
There's a huge one in Iowa City, IA, where my WW2 father-in-law would go for emergencies.
He didn't like going there for the very attitude you show .
 
NIMBY said:
What do you say to a wounded warrior and his/her family who will never fully recover from his/her injuries and are affected for life?
What do you say to the spuses and kids of all the Veterans who come home and then commit suicide?

You should visit a VA hospital to see what these people are going through.
There's a huge one in Iowa City, IA, where my WW2 father-in-law would go for emergencies.
He didn't like going there for the very attitude you show .
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Yes, trot out the wounded veteran to tug at the heartstrings. Doesn't change the fact that in the grand scheme of things uninjured veterans, which comprise the vast majority of them, have fantastic benefits for life at taxpayer expense.
 
reinoe said:
Yes, trot out the wounded veteran to tug at the heartstrings. Doesn't change the fact that in the grand scheme of things uninjured veterans, which comprise the vast majority of them, have fantastic benefits for life at taxpayer expense.
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You've probably not seen some of my better stuff on means-testing.
Retired folks like me who can still handle the three R's should have to give a MANDATORY 3 weeks a year on "means-testing"
of Pensions and Benefits, modeled after Americorps.
It's almost too late for public pensions, which I have one, so I feel your anxst.

Israel would not be what it is today without required service.
I don't ever hear anyone question COLA for all the Officers.
Rep. Ryan got stabbed by his own GOP on decreasing COLA.

NCOs didn't make ****.
Their wives make less than half now.
Without Tri-Care-For-Life, Mom would be SOL and I'd be paying, which I don't mind by "means-testing".
We are all going to have to give back on public government pensions and bennies, but in a sensible "means-tested" (who can afford it most) way.
And yes, I'm an Air Force brat.
 
Boo Radley said:
Last question first: yes, Iraq.
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Ah yes, the same Iraq war that had a huge number of waivers were granted so that people with felonies, drug arrests, ties to hate groups, and other questionable behaviors were allowed to enlist. Yes that Iraq War.
 
reinoe said:
To me, these are new benefits.
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Unless those new medical facilities were handed over to some veterans, they would not be providing new benefits; just the old benefits these vets had been promised.

And if the "expansion" of health and education programs merely served to make old programs more widely accessible, they too would not be new benefits but instead, a means of providing benefits that had been already promised to them.
 
reinoe said:
Ah yes, the same Iraq war that had a huge number of waivers were granted so that people with felonies, drug arrests, ties to hate groups, and other questionable behaviors were allowed to enlist. Yes that Iraq War.
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Well, don't cool yourself into thinking that is the majority we are talking about, or that people are fixed and unchangeable.
 
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