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Record Support for Gay Marriage[W:162:334]

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Yeah...they have. They have been very clear that it is not a choice. :lol:

Edit: It's like saying 'prove' consciousness. We all know humans have consciousness. It's like saying...prove you are straight. Can you?

Who are these authorities and what makes you think they know what causes people to be straight? Why even bring that up?
 
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So basically no matter what teachers teach, you have a political agenda against them because you feel they have a political agenda against you. Go figure.

Basically I understand that kids shouldn't be brainwashed with morals and ethics via their teachers considering it's not their teachers position to be raising other individuals children - let alone take advantage of empty minds.

Not to mention most grade school teachers and high school teachers are ignorant and are hardly qualified to teach anything.

Hell, I had a teacher (progressive) that thought dinosaurs and humans roamed the earth at the same time. Now how the hell do you go 30-years and get a college degree and believe that?
 
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I don't care what teachers think - most are progressive political activists anyways, they're more concerned a kid knows about homosexuality and Obama than they do if their students are up to par on the essential curriculum like; reading, math, science etc....

Besides, like I said in a previous post - these teachings have nothing do with homosexuality and everything to do with social engineering and the destruction of morals and ethics in an attempt to create a bunch of sheep that "follow the leader" in which the sheep are perfect building blocks for a totalitarian society... And this has already happened before with Mao, Lenin/Stalin, Pol Pot etc.....

respecting gay people and not mistreating them comes from ethics and molarity
 
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Because gay kids exist in the classroom. Gay people exist in the world. Why would you pretend otherwise?

So? All matter of people exist in the world and many of them are found in classrooms all around the country.
 
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Basically I understand that kids shouldn't be brainwashed with morals and ethics via their teachers considering it's not their teachers position to be raising other individuals children.

Pretty much.
 
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Basically I understand that kids shouldn't be brainwashed with morals and ethics via their teachers considering it's not their teachers position to be raising other individuals children - let alone take advantage of empty minds.

You make it sound like public educators are cult leaders.

Not to mention most grade school teachers and high school teachers are ignorant and are hardly qualified to teach anything.

Attacking the competence of every public school teacher in the country. Nice.

Hell, I had a teacher (progressive) that thought dinosaurs and humans roamed the earth at the same time. Now how the hell do you go 30-years and get a college degree and believe that?

Sounds like a Creationist to me.


It sounds to me like you are just using your personal experience and political ideology to inform your views on this topic. Whatever.
 
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So basically no matter what teachers teach, you have a political agenda against them because you feel they have a political agenda against you. Go figure.

Again, who lobbied for this? :lol:
 
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no bad kids being assholes to kids is optional bull**** on the part of the kids that we don't need to allow

or do you let them od what ever stupid harmful **** they please?

iv heard on hear kids are going to Scholl to learn math and history and other things guess what can get in the way of that the people surrounding you making your life hell

I told you I didn't endorse the behavior...

Also, your grammar is proving my point..... Do you care that your grammar is awful or do subscribe to the idea that you don't need to fix it because you're the "best."

How am I supposed to take you seriously when you spell like a 4th grader?
 
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So? All matter of people exist in the world and many of them are found in classrooms all around the country.

Good job. And that is why it is stupid for people like yourself to obsess about it when gay folk are talked about in the classroom. Get a grip.
 
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I told you I didn't endorse the behavior...

Also, your grammar is proving my point..... Do you care that your grammar is awful or do subscribe to the idea that you don't need to fix it because you're the "best."

How am I supposed to take you seriously when you spell like a 4th grader?

you told me how good it was for you and say that it should not be curbed how are you not endorsing it?
 
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I told you I didn't endorse the behavior...

Also, your grammar is proving my point..... Do you care that your grammar is awful or do subscribe to the idea that you don't need to fix it because you're the "best."

How am I supposed to take you seriously when you spell like a 4th grader?

by resisting the temptation to resort to Ad Hominem attacks demonstrating you have maturity and integrity beyond that of some 4th graders?
 
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Good job. And that is why it is stupid for people like yourself to obsess about it when gay folk are talked about in the classroom. Get a grip.

Why should any of the groups be talked about? It's not necessary to teach children to treat each other with respect.
 
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Who lobbied for Mr. Nick's paranoia?

The question is why did they start talking about gays in the classroom again. The answer is pretty obvious.
 
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Persecuted people?

Yes supporting gay's is an act of promotion.

Do you support heterosexuals? do you promote heterosexuality? of course NOT.

Really? Did school's promote having bastards? Getting divorces? No. But those kids still in school and exclusion and bullying are HARMFUL to the learning process. Schools need to include everyone or there is division and bullying. There is no point in excluding the children of gay families...that is mean and destructive.
 
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You make it sound like public educators are cult leaders.

They are..... I'm from Chicago so.... It may be different in more rural USA..

Attacking the competence of every public school teacher in the country. Nice.

Look at the Chicago public school system - 90% of these kids are below their grade level in all areas of education - so YES I will certainly question their competency. They're doing a horrible job and seem to only give a **** about money ( ironically while they promote socialism) given their union demands.


Sounds like a Creationist to me.


It sounds to me like you are just using your personal experience and political ideology to inform your views on this topic. Whatever.[/QUOTE]

I don't know if she was a creationist or not, however that was not the first experience I have had with ignorant public school teachers.

Sorry if my opinion offends you - we cant have that now can we?

I'm telling you what I observed - not what I want to believe.
 
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The question is why did they start talking about gays in the classroom again. The answer is pretty obvious.

Generally, because kids were bullying gay kids. There were some suicides. I posted some links a way back. I figured it would be obvious.

It isn't any different than talking about kids being a different race if there is bullying going on for that or talking about obesity if kids are being bullied for being fat. It is just conservatives got their panties in a bunch because they chose to see it as "promotion of homosexuality" to talk about the existence of a group people.
 
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Generally, because kids were bullying gay kids. There were some suicides. I posted some links a way back. I figured it would be obvious.

That was not the reason. This whole push to teach about gay people started far before everyone started to get overly concerned about bullying and kids killings themselves.
 
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Really? Did school's promote having bastards? Getting divorces? No. But those kids still in school and exclusion and bullying are HARMFUL to the learning process. Schools need to include everyone or there is division and bullying. There is no point in excluding the children of gay families...that is mean and destructive.

There is division and progressives are bullying here right now...

Division? yeah look at the progressives and how they treat everyone outside of their cult. I pity progressives because THEY are the bullies in the adult world - progressives are no better than a 10-year-old bully on the playground...

This whole progressive anti-bulling stuff is bull****.....

Hypocrite.
 
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It isn't any different than talking about kids being a different race if there is bullying going on for that or talking about obesity if kids are being bullied for being fat. It is just conservatives got their panties in a bunch because they chose to see it as "promotion of homosexuality" to talk about the existence of a group people.

Which of course, don't need to be faced either. There is no reason to teach children about each individual group of people to teach them to respect all people.
 
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They are..... I'm from Chicago so.... It may be different in more rural USA..



Look at the Chicago public school system - 90% of these kids are below their grade level in all areas of education - so YES I will certainly question their competency. They're doing a horrible job and seem to only give a **** about money ( ironically while they promote socialism) given their union demands.





It sounds to me like you are just using your personal experience and political ideology to inform your views on this topic. Whatever.

I don't know if she was a creationist or not, however that was not the first experience I have had with ignorant public school teachers.

Sorry if my opinion offends you - we cant have that now can we?

I'm telling you what I observed - not what I want to believe.

I think you should reconsider using your Chicago specific experience to make sweeping accusations about the entire state of the country's education system and all its educators.

And to the main point. It is ridiculous to claim that talking about the existence of gay people in the classroom is the equivalent of promoting homosexuality.
 
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Which of course, don't need to be faced either. There is no reason to teach children about each individual group of people to teach them to respect all people.

Ah, how sweet. You clearly have never worked with children in your life. As a person who does it for a living, I take your opinion for what it is worth. I like this whole "respect everyone" notion that you think kids would understand and embrace though. It is so naive and innocent.
 
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There is division and progressives are bullying here right now...

Division? yeah look at the progressives and how they treat everyone outside of their cult. I pity progressives because THEY are the bullies in the adult world - progressives are no better than a 10-year-old bully on the playground...

This whole progressive anti-bulling stuff is bull****.....

Hypocrite.

Liberal kids are bullying conservative kids in school? Really? Got any examples? It's pathetic if you feel YOU are being bullied by some political party.

Oh wait...are you a woman who is being bullied by the far right conservatives trying to restrict her reproductive rights?

You did not remotely address my example of how schools and kids address kids from gay families...you just whined that, poor weak you, are being bullied by some political party. You need to grow up.
 
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Ah, how sweet. You clearly have never worked with children in your life. As a person who does it for a living, I take your opinion for what it is worth. I like this whole "respect everyone" notion that you think kids would understand and embrace though. It is so naive and innocent.

Nope. I have been around children my whole life. Perhaps you just don't understand the lesson all that well. I do however enjoy being called naive by someone with an obvious agenda to push.
 
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Who are these authorities and what makes you think they know what causes people to be straight? Why even bring that up?

SInce you are asking for something that's irrelevant...the concepts are formed on the same basis.
 
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