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Record Support for Gay Marriage[W:162:334]

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Translation: you still cant make an argument that has merit and is supported by facts. Please let us know when you can.
 
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You're argument was defeated long ago. In fact it was proven your comments are quite bigoted.

LOL! Why, because you say so? As I said, my argument stands. Your bigoted one is corrupt.
 
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Translation: you still cant make an argument that has merit and is supported by facts. Please let us know when you can.

No, really? Translation. I have no respect at all for your posts, they are, in my opinion, the least thought out and most shallow of anyone on these boards, that's why I rarely respond to you. Consider this a special treat. The energy I expend on these keystrokes is well beyond the value of your posts. To tell you the truth, I hardly ever read more than a line or two of your posts, they are so bereft of cohesive thought.

Nothing personal, it's just a waste of my time.
 
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I am not saying any laws are based on procreation, I am pointing out that that is a difference. If you go back to the point I was making, it was that SS couples are different than OS couples, and a SSM is different from standard marriage. It seems that those that are for gay marriage refuse to admit that gay sex can not ever result in procreation. Just because people can't have children because of various reasons, doesn't mean that all couples can't have children. And if you have a union that, overall, in every instance, can't produce kids, then that is different from what a marriage is.
I'll admit it. Same sex couples can't procreate with one another. So what? You keep conflating marriage with procreation without proving why they should be tied to one another. You are starting with an unproven assumption.
 
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1.)No, really? Translation. I have no respect at all for your posts, they are, in my opinion, the least thought out and most shallow of anyone on these boards, that's why I rarely respond to you. Consider this a special treat. The energy I expend on these keystrokes is well beyond the value of your posts. To tell you the truth, I hardly ever read more than a line or two of your posts, they are so bereft of cohesive thought.
2.)Nothing personal, it's just a waste of my time.

1.) this is reassuring and makes me feel good, it just further proves that you have zero sound arguments and are using deflection tactics instead but nobody educated, honest and objective buys it :shrug:
2.) its a compliment from you so its ok

no back to the topic.

Do you have any facts that support your proven wrong and failed posts? heck do you have ONE fact that supports them because we would love to read them, let us know, we'll be here.
 
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LOL! Why, because you say so? As I said, my argument stands. Your bigoted one is corrupt.

Your argument still fails no matter how many times you repeat that it doesn't.

The fallacy of corrupt judges and failed strawman about peoples vote will never be a solid argument. Conspiracy theories and falsehoods never are and its why they fail.
 
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Well, then leave me out of that argument. I was responding to someone that claimed SSM and normal marriage are exactly the same. I pointed out that SS couple can never produce a child. Had nothing to do with the law.

And again...they are exactly the same because a) as you've admitted, that is not a criteria for marriage and b) lots of straight couples can never produce a child (infertile, too old) and they apparently have 'normal' marriages.

Exactly the same, even tho you discount that gay couples DO procreate and have natural children in their families (in vitro, surrogate, from previous straight marriages)

The 'definition' of a family is obviously very fluid these days....and as you say...that doesnt really matter when legalizing a marriage...and yet gays still DO procreate and have the exact same families as many legally married straight ones.

So this is an excuse on your part, not a reason.
 
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And again...they are exactly the same because a) as you've admitted, that is not a criteria for marriage and b) lots of straight couples can never produce a child (infertile, too old) and they apparently have 'normal' marriages.

Exactly the same, even tho you discount that gay couples DO procreate and have natural children in their families (in vitro, surrogate, from previous straight marriages)

The 'definition' of a family is obviously very fluid these days....and as you say...that doesnt really matter when legalizing a marriage...and yet gays still DO procreate and have the exact same families as many legally married straight ones.

So this is an excuse on your part, not a reason.

You just can't accept the fact that it is significantly different. Fine, I can't repair that. Keep on with that 2+2=5 mentality. I've pretty much posted my view here, only other thing is that I believe this is a state issue, not a federal one, but that's been touched on too.
 
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Well, then leave me out of that argument. I was responding to someone that claimed SSM and normal marriage are exactly the same. I pointed out that SS couple can never produce a child. Had nothing to do with the law.

Okay, so you're basically saying you don't view them as the same, but when people bring up the law you say it has nothing to do with the law.

So fine, you don't personally feel like they're the same because they don't produce a child. I disagree, but alright, let's accept that premise.

If your argument really has "nothing to do with the law", then it's not a legitimate argument AGAINST changing the LEGAL definition. If you're trying to argue that it's a reason to not change hte LEGAL definition, then it does have something to do with the law.
 
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You just can't accept the fact that it is significantly different. Fine, I can't repair that. Keep on with that 2+2=5 mentality. I've pretty much posted my view here, only other thing is that I believe this is a state issue, not a federal one, but that's been touched on too.

You say it's a state, not a federal issue.

Is it a state or federal issue if a state creates a law that allows permits for firearms to be obtained by Muslims but disallows those of the Christian Faith from being able to legally own firearms?
 
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There was no social engineering involving gay people. People are just realizing that there is nothing wrong with being gay and happily living your life. These people aren't hurting society, and they do just as much of a good job raising children.

No - social engineering (or brainwashing) by people like you. As in progressives forcing people (mostly children in public schools) to adhere to your progressive ideologies, in an attempt to manufacture future progressives.

Progressives don't allow people to form their own political ideologies - progressives teach people what their ideology should be.

You ever see 1984?
 
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No - social engineering (or brainwashing) by people like you. As in progressives forcing people (mostly children in public schools) to adhere to your progressive ideologies, in an attempt to manufacture future progressives.

Progressives don't allow people to form their own political ideologies - progressives teach people what their ideology should be.

You ever see 1984?

any 1 hear taught that being gay is not evil by a school?

any 1 hear know why that would be wrong?
 
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You just can't accept the fact that it is significantly different. Fine, I can't repair that. Keep on with that 2+2=5 mentality. I've pretty much posted my view here, only other thing is that I believe this is a state issue, not a federal one, but that's been touched on too.

???? You have not described one way in which it is significantly different. Please go ahead and do so. I and others have pointed out that the procreation issue *fails* in that context.

So....if you have an example *of this fact*, how it is significantly different, please let us know. (I can think of one, but then we are back to if that is a reason to keep it illegal..which it is not).
 
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any 1 hear that that being gay is not evil by a school?

any 1 hear know why that would be wrong?

Telling kids they must accept homosexuality is wrong.... Putting ****ing "transgender" bathrooms in schools is wrong. Telling kids they can choose to be a boy or a girl is ****ing wrong. Using "1" instead of "one" is ****ing wrong.

If you cant use proper grammar don't address me.
 
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Telling kids they must accept homosexuality is wrong.... Putting ****ing "transgender" bathrooms in schools is wrong. Telling kids they can choose to be a boy or a girl is ****ing wrong. Using "1" instead of "one" is ****ing wrong.

If you cant use proper grammar don't address me.

ill address you any way

why is it wrong to not consider being homosexual wrong?

and since when do transgender people get a choice when it comes to the gender they identify themselves with?
 
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who is telling kids to accept homosexuality and going beyond just telling them that they should not harass or mistreat people who are gay, and explaining away myths like you choose to be gay?
 
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ill address you any way

why is it wrong to not consider being homosexual wrong?

and since when do transgender people get a choice when it comes to the gender they identify themselves with?

Since when are "transgender" people sane - let alone kids??

Why not let 10-year-olds vote, drink, smoke, join the military, drive, have sex etc???? Surely if they're emotionally mature enough to choose what gender they are they're mature enough to do other activities that require maturity.

How about this has nothing to do with homosexuality or transgender nonsense and everything to do with destroying cohesion in the United States? -- you know, how the totalitarians did it in China (Mao), Russia (Stalin/Lenin), Cambodia (Pol Pot), North Korea (Kim Jong-Il) etc.... You know how those sadistic killers achieved their desired "utopia"?? they destroyed culture, religion and the morals and ethics of their societies.....
 
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That was "proven"? You sure have a loose definition of proven! Oh wait, then I "proved" that marriage is between a man and a woman.

Yes you have. It is between a man and a woman.

Just not exclusively anymore...as is *proven* by the states where it is legal.
 
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who is telling kids to accept homosexuality and going beyond just telling them that they should not harass or mistreat people who are gay, and explaining away myths like you choose to be gay?

Well I think requiring schools by law (in sillyFornia) to allow kids to choose what bathroom they can use is making a ****ing statement. Furthermore progressives are promoting homosexuality as something "cool" and "hip."
 
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Since when are "transgender" people sane - let alone kids??

Why not let 10-year-olds vote, drink, smoke, join the military, drive, have sex etc???? Surely if they're emotionally mature enough to choose what gender they are they're mature enough to do other activities that require maturity.

How about this has nothing to do with homosexuality or transgender nonsense and everything to do with destroying cohesion in the United States? -- you know, how the totalitarians did it in China (Mao), Russia (Stalin/Lenin), Cambodia (Pol Pot), North Korea (Kim Jong-Il) etc.... You know how those sadistic killers achieved their desired "utopia"?? they destroyed culture, religion and the morals and ethics of their societies.....

your not telling my why its wrong to be gay? so why is it wrong to teach that its not wrong?

how's homosexuality or not identifying with your biological sex destroy morals....or culture....or religion?

and cohesion is exactly what the totalitarian want just their brand of it
 
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No - social engineering (or brainwashing) by people like you. As in progressives forcing people (mostly children in public schools) to adhere to your progressive ideologies, in an attempt to manufacture future progressives.

Progressives don't allow people to form their own political ideologies - progressives teach people what their ideology should be.

You ever see 1984?

No one is asking anyone to change their own actions or traditions in the least. They are *including* other Americans...as is just.

And no one is "teaching" it in schools...they are teaching *inclusion* because the kids of gays arent going anywhere and exclusion and bullying damage a positive learning environment. Just like in the past bastards and the children of divorce were villified (mostly because of the parent's attitudes), today we must recognize that these are the children of legitimate families too.
 
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Well I think requiring schools by law (in sillyFornia) to allow kids to choose what bathroom they can use is making a ****ing statement. Furthermore progressives are promoting homosexuality as something "cool" and "hip."

im not sure the bathroom thing is a good idea

but who is promoting being gay as cool or hip you don't get to choose those things and the only people I ever hear saying otherwise are some not all but some conservatives I know progressives and some conservatives promote that you should not mistreat people for their sexuality
 
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your not telling my why its wrong to be gay? so why is it wrong to teach that its not wrong?

how's homosexuality or not identifying with your biological sex destroy morals....or culture....or religion?

and cohesion is exactly what the totalitarian want just their brand of it

It's not a teachers position to be teaching children politics - teachers shouldn't be addressing the issue in public schools in the first place. Kids go to school to learn how to read, write and do math, learn history and science - NOT form conclusions on homosexuality or learn which way to lean politically... Telling kids what political ideas are right and wrong is stepping over the line and promoting certain fringe political ideas is stepping way over the line.

I never said it was wrong to be gay either. I implied that promoting homosexuality was wrong and requiring others to accept homosexuals was wrong.
 
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im not sure the bathroom thing is a good idea

but who is promoting being gay as cool or hip you don't get to choose those things and the only people I ever hear saying otherwise are some not all but some conservatives I know progressives and some conservatives promote that you should not mistreat people for their sexuality

Policies promote homosexuality - you progressives promote homosexuality because you progressives are obsessed with homosexuality..... You promote it via your own obsessions with homosexuality, and the bus doesn't stop there either - you progressives are obsessed with all minorities and make an issue out of their differences....
 
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