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Obama warns US will 'isolate' Russia if Putin doesn't pull back in Ukraine

NoC_T said:
What does 'isolate' mean?

Is the skinny boy king trying to puff out his underdeveloped chest?

Shut up, Barack. Idiot.
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I believe Putin is very worried about these threats...

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mac said:
I believe Putin is very worried about these threats...

:shock:
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If he is worried, it isn't causing him to pull back from Crimea.
 
Summerwind said:
I get that this is a popular meme for many hysterical rightie tighties, and I'm not even a tiny bit patriotic, but seriously who do you think is more relevant than the USA? Seriously, let's hear 'em. Another country is the global financial currency? Good, bad, or indifferent, which other country is first and most in the news globally looking for our reaction to most global issues, which country is first on the list when "freedom fighters" want financial and logistic support, which country is first on the list when a country needs humanitarian aid after a disaster???

This idea that we are reducing ourselves hopefully is true, because we could be reduced 10fold or more and still be more relevant than any other country. Stop with the trying to put shame on it. The real shame is the fact that our military spending is more than the next 13 countries combined. Then because we don't, what?, start a war over Crimea, some whiny citizens bemoan our weakness.
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You bolded "We are gradually reducing ourselves to irrelevancy in any significant manner" and then ignored it. The key word is gradually..
 
donsutherland1 said:
President Putin offered incentives e.g., for women to have a second or third child, etc.

Vladimir Putin ridiculed after demanding Russians have more sex to halt declining population | Mail Online

Putin hails Russian birth-rate bounce - FT.com

It is still not clear what factor or combination of factors explains the recent stabilization and modest increase in Russia's population. If the increase is sustained, demographers will almost certainly research and publish on the outcomes, as Russia is/was not alone in facing population decline.

Finally, it is extremely unlikely that Russia's policies toward its homosexual community had any role. Indeed, some of its harshest laws were adopted after, not before, the population stabilized and then rose modestly.
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Well, before they passed laws against the promotion of homosexuality and paedophilia in Russian schools, many Russian children were literally sold to western clients, these children were misused by these peadophiles who posed as homosexuals.

Today Russian law forbids the adaptation of Russian children in western countries, in which homosexual marriages became legal.
 
Ben K. said:
Russia is below the replacement level of 2.1. I said Western Europe not eastern/central. Where is Russia going to find replacements without immigrants may I ask?
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Higher birth rate. Promotion of big families, etc.


Ben K. said:
Link?
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Britain and the rest of the European Union are ignoring a demographic time bomb: a recent rush into the EU by migrants, including millions of Muslims, will change the continent beyond recognition over the next two decades, and almost no policy-makers are talking about it.

The numbers are startling. Only 3.2 per cent of Spain's population was foreign-born in 1998. In 2007 it was 13.4 per cent. Europe's Muslim population has more than doubled in the past 30 years and will have doubled again by 2015. In Brussels, the top seven baby boys' names recently were Mohamed, Adam, Rayan, Ayoub, Mehdi, Amine and Hamza.

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Germany started to reform its voting laws 10 years ago, granting certain franchise rights to the large Turkish population. It would be odd if that did not alter the country's stance on Turkey's application to join the EU. Mr Perkowski's study says: "Faced with rapidly growing, disenfranchised and increasingly politically empowered Muslim populations within the borders of some of its oldest and strongest allies, the US could be faced with ever stronger challenges to its Middle East foreign policies."

Demography will force politicians to confront these issues sooner rather than later.

Muslim Europe: the demographic time bomb transforming our continent - Telegraph

Today, the Turkish population in Germany has mushroomed to an estimated 3.5 million, and Turks now constitute the largest ethnic minority group in the country. Demographers expect that the Turkish population in Germany will increase exponentially in coming decades, largely due to a high birth rate and Germany's continuing high demand for foreign workers.
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considering that the birth rate among Turkish immigrants in Germany is 2.4, nearly double that of the native German population (which at 1.38 is far below the replacement rate of 2.1 children per couple). At this rate, the number of native Germans will be cut in half in around six generations, while the number of Muslim immigrants in Germany will more than quadruple.

Germany Debates Muslim Immigration
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The situation in France and other western EU-countries is even worse.

What to the USA, it will become something similar to Mexico and Brasilia, and have a similar importance on world affairs, like the mentioned countries.

:D

Demography is destiny, dude!
 
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Mr.Nick said:
That's a joke.

Since when did Russia ever need the US in the past 70 years?

Obama is a really ignorant person if he thinks idle threats of "isolation" will intimidate Russia, especially with China (and every communist nation) in their back pockets.
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Have you ever looked at the export stats of Russia and China? Since a decade ago, Russia and China abandoned all vestiges of communism :roll:
 
Art_Allm said:
Well, before they passed laws against the promotion of homosexuality and paedophilia in Russian schools, many Russian children were literally sold to western clients, these children were misused by these peadophiles who posed as homosexuals.

Today Russian law forbids the adaptation of Russian children in western countries, in which homosexual marriages became legal.
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Not surprised you're one of those who thinks homosexuality=pedophilia
 
Montecresto said:
Except thankfully, the UK backed out of that, the UN denied the US the job of heavy lifting in Syria, and 70% of Americans disagree with you.
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Glad to know that you're now supporting dictators openly
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Except when they're allied with the US in which you'll cry "Totalitarianism!" and rant about how the US is installing puppet regimes all over the world
 
mac said:
And the killing will go on; the area will remain a center of human rights violations until it gets so bad no-one can act like it's not their responsibility to do something.

By the way, most Americans felt like you do before WWI and WWII got to the point we couldn't ignore them anymore.
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Well, thankfully, more Americans agreed with me then you where Syria was concerned. Sorry that hurts your feelings.
 
Grant said:
Again, you are unable to provide links. Your opinion is no substitute for facts.
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You must be denying that the Bush administration scared Americans that Saddam Hussein was capable of delivering a mushroom cloud over a US city, which figures.
 
Proud South Korean said:
Glad to know that you're now supporting dictators openly
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Except when they're allied with the US in which you'll cry "Totalitarianism!" and rant about how the US is installing puppet regimes all over the world
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So you think that 70% of Americans were supporting a dictator! That's typical of a ****ing South Korean.
 
Art_Allm said:
Well, before they passed laws against the promotion of homosexuality and paedophilia in Russian schools, many Russian children were literally sold to western clients, these children were misused by these peadophiles who posed as homosexuals.

Today Russian law forbids the adaptation of Russian children in western countries, in which homosexual marriages became legal.
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The adoption ban was adopted in retaliation for the Magnitsky Act. The ban had nothing to do with the same sex marriage issue.
 
Art_Allm said:
Yes, Crimea is NOT Ukraine!

I know that Americans are not the best educated people in the world, but the Soviet Republic, that was called Ukrainian SSR, was bigger than the province Ukraine of the former Tsarist Russia.

Nikita Khrushchev was the one who just added the Russian Crimean Peninsula to the Ukrainian SSR, because he was a Ukrainian himself, but he did not expect that the USSR will eventually collapse.

After the collapse of the USSR the Russian population of the Crimea became foreigners in their own land, which was part of Russia till 1954.

Today this population is using the opportunity and is deciding in a referendum about their future.

Why should this internal Russian problem be a concern to the USA?
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Many of us are quite well educated actually. And many of us don't give a damn about the Ukraine. All we want is to go back to isolation and let the Europeans with their "symbolic" armies solve their own problems...but we also know geopolitics is a bitch and if we don't pretend to be concerned...we might offend the sensitive little hearts of people everywhere. Maybe if we posture like we give a crap...don't do ****...maybe the terrorists will go after Putin and his people like they all did to us after all our CIA bull****. I don't know? Maybe I'm dreaming?
 
stonewall50 said:
Many of us are quite well educated actually. And many of us don't give a damn about the Ukraine. All we want is to go back to isolation and let the Europeans with their "symbolic" armies solve their own problems...but we also know geopolitics is a bitch and if we don't pretend to be concerned...we might offend the sensitive little hearts of people everywhere. Maybe if we posture like we give a crap...don't do ****...maybe the terrorists will go after Putin and his people like they all did to us after all our CIA bull****. I don't know? Maybe I'm dreaming?
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Nope, no dreams, while there's a long way to go to effect any change in US foreign policy, there are growing numbers that see things as you do.
 
Montecresto said:
Nope, no dreams, while there's a long way to go to effect any change in US foreign policy, there are growing numbers that see things as you do.
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I should hope. I'm sick of to be Europeans trying to dictate how and when we act with our foreign policy. Forget em and feed em peanuts I say.
 
Montecresto said:
Well, thankfully, more Americans agreed with me then you where Syria was concerned. Sorry that hurts your feelings.
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It doesn't hurt my feelings, and as Kerry said: "In America, you have a right to be stupid."
 
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