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Kerry condemns Russia's 'incredible act of aggression' in Ukraine

:lamo Suuuuuure.

Yeah. You mad. And I dont blame you. It would suck having to defend that ridiculous ****ing circus clown in the WH.

Its not about being on Putins side...far from it. As has been expressed countless times...Putin is a douchebag. Obama makes him look like a rokstar.

Cool story bro.

I find it funny that when someone tells you they didn't vote for someone, the hard-core conservatives accuse that person of being a liar.
 
Does any one know if we ever found any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? Or, that Saddam was helping Al-Qaeda? I mean, maybe my memory is getting faulty here, but didn't we invade them on some pretext, which as you say, Kerry voted for himself. I seem to recall that the Bush campaign still painted him out as weak on defense during the 2004 campaign.

What interesting times we live in. Let's hope cooler heads prevail on both sides, without those that go to sleep each night dreaming for a nuclear exchange prevailing.

Residual evidence of WMD was found in Iraq and since Saddam continued to violate the terms of the ceasefire, all options were open to dealing with him. If your memory is only going to be selectively faulty, you might as well remind yourself of all the facts. You can still disagree with the actions but the response, but try not to fall in love with your own narrative of the events.

Now back on topic since this really doesn't even relate to the actions in Iraq but closer to Czechoslovakia in 1938 and the Sudentenland being mostly populated by those of German origins.
 
Cool story bro.

I find it funny that when someone tells you they didn't vote for someone, the hard-core conservatives accuse that person of being a liar.

That usually happens when that person's credibility isn't view favorably.
 
Kerry's words, Like Obama's are empty dribbles. Let Europe save Europe. We've got our own issues to deal with.

Those who served with Kerry have different views of Guy Smiley's actions under fire and his House testimony accusing his comrades of war crimes.
 
That usually happens when that person's credibility isn't view favorably.

So, what you're saying is, you really think I voted for Obama in 2012. Amirite?
 
So, what you're saying is, you really think I voted for Obama in 2012. Amirite?

What I'm saying is the person who is being critical of you does see your statement as credible, which is why they may not believe you. I'm not agreeing with that, I'm simply restating what I read and my interpretation as well as a possible reason. Everyone here has their critics on DP no matter who or what they espouse or how honest they are.
 
What would the USA gain by going to war with Russia over the Ukraine?

Nothing, as its clear you know, but some people just love to fight. Our empire can no longer sustain our military expeditions, the writing on the wall is clear to see, obviously not to all, but hopefully to those that count!
 
Kerry's words, Like Obama's are empty dribbles. Let Europe save Europe. We've got our own issues to deal with.

Those who served with Kerry have different views of Guy Smiley's actions under fire and his House testimony accusing his comrades of war crimes.

Herman Munster says Global Warming is more dangerous than anything else so Russia is not a problem.
Next.
 
Herman Munster says Global Warming is more dangerous than anything else so Russia is not a problem.
Next.

He called Global Warming a Weapon of Mass Destruction didn't he? Maybe, he can influence Russia by threatening to remove EPA regulations on air particulates if Putin doesn't stop his aggressive behavior. :lol:
 
Residual evidence of WMD was found in Iraq and since Saddam continued to violate the terms of the ceasefire, all options were open to dealing with him. If your memory is only going to be selectively faulty, you might as well remind yourself of all the facts. You can still disagree with the actions but the response, but try not to fall in love with your own narrative of the events.

Now back on topic since this really doesn't even relate to the actions in Iraq but closer to Czechoslovakia in 1938 and the Sudentenland being mostly populated by those of German origins.

I was being facitious. No weapons were found. As Carl Rove himself admits, when saying he made a mistake advising Bush to go to war. Also, the admission from the Bush Presidential library displays.

Rove Admits: No WMD Found In Iraq

Bush Presidential Library Misleads Visitors On WMDs In Iraq | ThinkProgress

And we are on topic. We are in no position to say who is or isn't right when they decide to go to war in this day and age. We have not set so fine an example ourselves.
 
What I'm saying is the person who is being critical of you does see your statement as credible, which is why they may not believe you. I'm not agreeing with that, I'm simply restating what I read and my interpretation as well as a possible reason. Everyone here has their critics on DP no matter who or what they espouse or how honest they are.

I don't particularly care if he sees me as credible or not.
 
He called Global Warming a Weapon of Mass Destruction didn't he?
Maybe, he can influence Russia by threatening to remove EPA regulations on air particulates if Putin doesn't stop his aggressive behavior. :lol:



Not "a" WMD but "the worst" WMD.
Yeah, his head's on straight.
 
Thanks for the correction.

You're welcome ... I figured it helps to round out more accurately how Herman's approach to matters in his role as SoS can be evaluated.
 
You're welcome ... I figured it helps to round out more accurately how Herman's approach to matters in his role as SoS can be evaluated.

Good morning, bubba. :2wave:

Reminds me of the old saying..."Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." . SOS Kerry isn't having one of his better months so far. :mrgreen:
 
Cool story bro.

I find it funny that when someone tells you they didn't vote for someone, the hard-core conservatives accuse that person of being a liar.
:lamo I find it funny you want to pretend you arent fully in the bag for Obama. So, I guess we are both starting off the week in high spirits.
 
I don't particularly care if he sees me as credible or not.

Exactly. How does any anonymous person on a talk board have credibility anyways? Everyone does, and no one does. And I don't see where anybody respects anybody else's opinion unless they agree with them, and how easy is that to do!?
 
No...but their people were pressing to be. They ahd already charted a path and created economic ties and were working towards EU membership. Yanukovych chose to abandon the will of the people, cut ties to the EU, and move the Ukraine back to Russia. Thats what has triggered this whole mess. Or have you missed that?

"Their people's" are split 50/50, so not so fast.
 
If we spill out of Guantanamo, into Cuba, that's not an invasion, right?

There is a massive difference.

First of all the population of Cuba are not American or even have English as their first language.

Secondly the Cuban American agreement pre-dates the present Cuban regime but Cuba cant do anything about it. The US is occupying GITMO supposedly legally but in reality you bullied your way to the base when you supported the puppet dictator of Cuba at the time and are paying next to nothing for it.

Now in the Crimea you an area that was given to the Ukraine in 1954 or so by the Soviets. The population is 90% Russian, the main language is Russian and they have considerable self rule in the first place. They actually dont want to be part of the Ukraine and never have been. There is also an agreement between the Ukraine and Russia for Russian troops to be in the Crimea and operate there pretty much independently because of the Russian Black Sea Fleet.

Crimea = Sudetenland?

In some ways yes...but with a much much bigger majority of Russians than there was German's in Sudetenland.
 
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