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Kerry condemns Russia's 'incredible act of aggression' in Ukraine

You are trying to spin this into a problem for the GOP? Seriously thats rich. Obama's at the wheel-one president at a time and all that-own it.
You obviously don't listen to those from your team.
I listen to both teams, which is why I'm informed.
How silly for Rep. Rogers to announce to the world who is playing marbles and who is playing chess .
 
You obviously don't listen to those from your team.
I listen to both teams, which is why I'm informed.
How silly for Rep. Rogers to announce to the world who is playing marbles and who is playing chess .

Who's in charge here, a rep or the President?

If you are truly suggesting that ANY member of congress is "undercutting" POTUS, what you are saying is that Obama is a weak leader.
 
The GOP believes they are in charge, as per the GOP shooting off their mouths since Ukraine began.
Whenever there is a problem, you CONs scream, it's Obama today, it's Obama tomorrow, it's Obama forever.
The GOP will be continue to play into Putin's hands until there is a GOP President .
Who's in charge here, a rep or the President?

If you are truly suggesting that ANY member of congress is "undercutting" POTUS, what you are saying is that Obama is a weak leader.
 
The GOP believes they are in charge, as per the GOP shooting off their mouths since Ukraine began.
Whenever there is a problem, you CONs scream, it's Obama today, it's Obama tomorrow, it's Obama forever.
The GOP will be continue to play into Putin's hands until there is a GOP President .
:lamo

Look at yourself. You literally are whining about the GOP when it has been Obama and now Kerry making empty headed statement and threats. Sure...Obama is the president but...but...but...that mean ol representative, he said stuff too! And conservatives always vote for war and stuff...not like democrats...sniff...sniff...


holy ****

:lamo
 
Look at yourself. You literally are whining about the GOP when it has been Obama and now Kerry making empty headed statement and threats. Sure...Obama is the president but...but...but...that mean ol representative, he said stuff too! And conservatives always vote for war and stuff...not like democrats...sniff...sniff...

You mistake whiners for calling out the GOP for the Seditionists they are.
As always, not all GOPs.
But enough to be manipulated by Putin.
How does it feel to be used and manipulated by Putin ?
 
The GOP believes they are in charge, as per the GOP shooting off their mouths since Ukraine began.
Whenever there is a problem, you CONs scream, it's Obama today, it's Obama tomorrow, it's Obama forever.
The GOP will be continue to play into Putin's hands until there is a GOP President .

Let me get this straight-you think because some congressional reps have commented on Ukraine that it means they think they are "in charge"?

I guess its all a conspiracy, huh?
 
You mistake whiners for calling out the GOP for the Seditionists they are.
As always, not all GOPs.
But enough to be manipulated by Putin.
How does it feel to be used Putin ?
The only one being 'used' by Putin is Obama. Putin is a douchebag. Obama made him look like a statesman. Thats...so ****ing sad.
 
You mistake whiners for calling out the GOP for the Seditionists they are.
As always, not all GOPs.
But enough to be manipulated by Putin.
How does it feel to be used Putin ?

Heres where you go pound sand...

Hillary made this "seditious" comment while she was in congress, so by your "logic" she thought she was in charge, right? :roll:
 
The only one being 'used' by Putin is Obama. Putin is a douchebag.
At no time did people like you call Putin a douchebag during Syria.
You're walking back your despicable support of Putin, which continues today with GOP chirpers giving Putin/Snowden aid and comfort .
 
So on one hand, you want a military force to go after Putin in your previous posts.
But on this hand, it's Obama's fault that Putin has invaded.
How many sides to your mouth are there ?
Indeed, a brutish ex kgb thug having his way with a naive Obama.
 
:lamo

Look at yourself. You literally are whining about the GOP when it has been Obama and now Kerry making empty headed statement and threats. Sure...Obama is the president but...but...but...that mean ol representative, he said stuff too! And conservatives always vote for war and stuff...not like democrats...sniff...sniff...


holy ****

:lamo

Its Bush's fault.
 
At no time did people like you call Putin a douchebag during Syria.
You're walking back your despicable support of Putin, which continues today with GOP chirpers giving Putin/Snowden aid and comfort .

I called putin a douche during syria as well. He's a bad guy, who just so hapens to punk Obama nearly every day.
 
So on one hand, you want a military force to go after Putin in your previous posts.
But on this hand, it's Obama's fault that Putin has invaded.
How many sides to your mouth are there ?

Please link to any posts where I called for military action against putin. Its Obama's fault he's a weak leader-weakness is the worst possible trait for leaders, and the worlds thugs and dictators (who deal in strength) recognize instantly that they can do whatever without fear of repercussions.

Theres a reason its called peace through strength, and not strength through weakness.
 
The US should lead the opposition to this act of war (yes, invading a sovereign nation and its territorial integrity is considered an act of war) with economic and diplomatic sanctions against Russia. Get everyone on record with who they support, including the UN, EU, and Nato to investigate any situation threatening international peace; recommend procedures for peaceful resolution of a dispute; call upon other member nations to completely or partially interrupt economic relations as well as sea, air, postal, and radio communications, or to sever diplomatic relations; and enforce its decisions.

Let Russia come across as the brutish invaders and reap the repercussions, they are the ones who have sent militias across the border. Basically, the US needs to lead the world into making it more expensive (politically or otherwise) to stay in Ukraine. France, the UK, and the US will stand together, but how China responds will also be key.

The point here, is that one nation can not invade another, and there are going to be those who do something about it-and those that dont. We are at a distinct disadvantage with a weak president who not only advertises his unwillingness to use force but also has squandered his political capital at home and abroad. An actual leader wouldn't even be in this mess=Obama's foreign policy has been appallingly bad.
Why is it that the U.S. should lead on this? What's the point of the UN?
 
At no time did people like you call Putin a douchebag during Syria.
You're walking back your despicable support of Putin, which continues today with GOP chirpers giving Putin/Snowden aid and comfort .
Actually at EVERY TURN I called Obama a douchebag for Syria. I very clearly pointed out that he completely ignored the fact that the people he supports in Syria were caught holding chemical weapons and as per the UN USED chemical weapons. I pointed out he had absolutely no case for who actually USED the chemical weapons in Syria but more than anything else I pointed out how completely ****ing stupid he looked drawing his red line, banging the war drums, then stood there looking stupid allowing Putin to swoop in and save his sorry ass. And BTW...thats yet ANOTHER case where it is YOUR GUY...that guy you worship and idolize that made the vacant vapid threats in Syria. It wasnt the random internet blogger that was threatening war against Assad...that was OBAMA.

And you keep wanting to ignore Obama's words and inaction and blame it everyone right down to internet bloggers.

:lamo
 
Its Bush's fault.
Oh I am absolutely certain they are trying to work that angle in.

Its funny how for 8 years EVERYTHING is Bush's fault beut Obama isnt even responsible for his own words.
 
I called putin a douche during syria as well. He's a bad guy, who just so hapens to punk Obama nearly every day.
Precisely. That was the general consensus. Putin is a douchebag...and Obama makes him look like an effective world leader and statesman.
 
Precisely. That was the general consensus. Putin is a douchebag...and Obama makes him look like an effective world leader and statesman.

Kerry did his part to help Putin look good too!!! Colin Powell always advised us to share credit.
 
Kerry did his part to help Putin look good too!!! Colin Powell always advised us to share credit.
The John Kerry that was an elected senator since 1984 and had access to all the intel on Iraq and Afghanistan during the Clinton administration, supported Clinton's actions against Iraq, and voted for war against Iraq, then claimed he was too stupid to actually READ the intel he had been voting on for 2+ decades and was really just tricked by Bush? That John Kerry?
 
The John Kerry that was an elected senator since 1984 and had access to all the intel on Iraq and Afghanistan during the Clinton administration, supported Clinton's actions against Iraq, and voted for war against Iraq, then claimed he was too stupid to actually READ the intel he had been voting on for 2+ decades and was really just tricked by Bush? That John Kerry?
Yep. John Kerry proposed that Assad should disarm and then Putin swooped right in. Obama couldn't make Putin look like a statesman alone.
 
Yep. John Kerry proposed that Assad should disarm and then Putin swooped right in. Obama couldn't make Putin look like a statesman alone.

Kerry is the Presidents representative. He and Hillary came off so bad because they are in charge of an inferior foreign policy.
 
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