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Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

lol there's no good guys. Should've picked that one up in Williamsburg, Jack.
 
Montecresto said:
Sure I do. But what transpired in Ukraine wasn't a revolution, it was an anti-democracy rebellion. And you wouldn't condone it here, or would you?
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No, what transpired in Ukraine was a protest that the puppet government chose to fire on. If the government didn't want a revolution they probably shouldn't have started murdering protesters. They got what they deserve.
 
humbolt said:
Exactly what does the EU have that would give Russia pause? The first thing the Russians would do is cut off the natural gas, and then it's over before it even started, whatever "it" was going to be.
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:agree: Plus Russia is one of the "Big 5," in the UN, and holds veto power. Would that mean that it's DOA immediately?

Greetings, humbolt. :2wave:
 
Montecresto said:
Sure I do. But what transpired in Ukraine wasn't a revolution, it was an anti-democracy rebellion. And you wouldn't condone it here, or would you?
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An anti-democracy rebellion?:lamo

You really are a propagandist. The only question is whether you're a professional.:cool:
 
OldWorldOrder said:
Very funny, because it's so generic and infantile. Saying you're "for peace" is like saying you're "for good things". It's so basic that it may as well be meaningless. Different actors have different roads to peace. Peace for some can mean discomfort for others, etc etc. Here's a piece of knowledge for you that you can use later on in life: everyone is for peace on their own terms, so saying you're "for peace" is for either simpletons or politicians hoping to appeal to simpletons.



Oh, I'm sure you'll continue to excuse it at later points. I'm confident.



You just keep displaying your atrocious cognitive abilities:
1- I didn't say anything about what the relevant portion was. That wasn't the debate then, it's not the debate now: the issue is that when you're told a "classified portion" of something exists, you take that to mean the person is unaware of the unclassified portion. But you can't even follow the train of thought about an example of a time you couldn't follow the train of thought. looooool! This is like Inception! A cognitive failing within a cognitive failing!

2- How would you know what the relevant portions were anyway, you've never read the classified parts? lol!

3- Why would someone share classified information? But again, why are you even talking about that, that has nothing to do with the discussion here.

The discussion is about your horrible critical thinking skills, which lead you to these absurdly hypocritical stances, wherein you defend Russia when they're violating international treaties (or close to it, if you want to argue that) but have no problem being critical of the US for violating international treaties (or close to it). When you're asked if you care about international law or not, your response is that you care about if nations say they follow it or not, not it in particular.

You're beyond ridiculous, and I'm going to keep calling you on it until you actually refine your thinking to the point that you could write a C paper in your junior year of high school, because frankly you're not there yet.
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That whole post is ridiculous, sorry you invested so much time. You clearly know dick about anything.
 
jmotivator said:
No, what transpired in Ukraine was a protest that the puppet government chose to fire on. If the government didn't want a revolution they probably shouldn't have started murdering protesters. They got what they deserve.
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It's not over yet.
 
Montecresto said:
That whole post is ridiculous, sorry you invested so much time. You clearly know dick about anything.
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What? lol, would that have taken you a lot of time to write?

Now, for the record, are you more interested in international law, or are you more interested in what nations think of international law?
 
OldWorldOrder said:
What? lol, would that have taken you a lot of time to write?

Now, for the record, are you more interested in international law, or are you more interested in what nations think of international law?
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Surely more interested in what people think of it. If it only gets lip service, it doesn't matter.
 
polgara said:
:agree: Plus Russia is one of the "Big 5," in the UN, and holds veto power. Would that mean that it's DOA immediately?

Greetings, humbolt. :2wave:
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Anything the EU does is likely to end up biting them. The big question, should this peeing contest occur, is who would hold out the longer. I don't know, but I'm betting the people of the EU would like to keep warm, run their cars etc, and all that. But I truly don't know.
 
Not people- nations. The gymnastics you're putting yourself through to justify supporting Russian imperialism while decrying American imperialism is hilarious. Be against it, be for it, or don't care either way. Otherwise just admit you support some countries doing it but don't support others.
 
humbolt said:
Anything the EU does is likely to end up biting them. The big question, should this peeing contest occur, is who would hold out the longer. I don't know, but I'm betting the people of the EU would like to keep warm, run their cars etc, and all that. But I truly don't know.
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The EU is struggling right now too! Anyway, if Putin moves to secure the country and his assets, installs a pro Russian government and gets the hell out, everyone will be better off, save the half of the population that won't be happy. If Putin has designs beyond Ukraine as so many are accusing him of, then that's a different story, and I suppose the EU couldn't afford not to do something.
 
OldWorldOrder said:
Not people- nations. The gymnastics you're putting yourself through to justify supporting Russian imperialism while decrying American imperialism is hilarious. Be against it, be for it, or don't care either way. Otherwise just admit you support some countries doing it but don't support others.
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Nations don't think! If you were talking to me, I'm not satisfied that this is Russian imperialism (yet anyway) as you apparently think. By the way, should I assume that you're against what Putins doing.
 
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