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Ukraine accuses Russia of Occupation calls for help from US/UK

I do not see Cruz or Rubio or even McCain quoted in this link. Why did you LIE?


NIMBY said:
Focus on what you quoted--McCain, Corker, Rubio, CRUZ want sanctions and another war.
Corker walked back ALL of his comments on CNN today, as he's trying to do with Volkswagon.
No Drama Obama and America win again .:peace
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VanceMack said:
I dont know about that whole intervention thing. Have we drawn any clearly defined red lines? Because you know...once THOSE are in place...then its agreed we MUST act...
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I, for one, am satisfied. We have expressed that we are "deeply concerned". Not just concerned, mind you, but DEEPLY concerned. I know that would make me pause and rethink my course of action. Anybody can be simply concerned, ya know.

Good thing we stopped short of the "strongly worded letter", or else Putin would be in serious trouble.
 
radcen said:
I, for one, am satisfied. We have expressed that we are "deeply concerned". Not just concerned, mind you, but DEEPLY concerned. I know that would make me pause and rethink my course of action. Anybody can be simply concerned, ya know.

Good thing we stopped short of the "strongly worded letter", or else Putin would be in serious trouble.
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This illustrates the two rather well.

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One of these GOP commentors in this link, Rep. Tom Cotton running for Sen. Pryor's Arkansas seat, was all in for bombing Syria.
With friends like the GOP, BHO doesn't need enemies .
http://www.ketknbc.com/news/republicans-call-on-obama-to-act-on-ukraine
CalGun said:
I do not see Cruz or Rubio or even McCain quoted in this link. Why did you LIE?
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Rep. Cotton is quoted as saying Putin, the Russian people and the elite must 'pay a price'.
How do you interpret 'paying a price', CalGun ?
 
You quoted or claimed to say that Rubio and Cruz are calling for war. Let's see it? I was asking politely, but now I think you just pulled it out of your back side.


NIMBY said:
One of these GOP commentors in this link, Rep. Tom Cotton running for Sen. Pryor's Arkansas seat, was all in for bombing Syria.
With friends like the GOP, BHO doesn't need enemies .
http://www.ketknbc.com/news/republicans-call-on-obama-to-act-on-ukraine

Rep. Cotton is quoted as saying Putin, the Russian people and the elite must 'pay a price'.
How do you interpret 'paying a price', CalGun ?
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So you're not interested in Republicans who are calling for war.
And calling someone a liar is not exactly being polite, especially since I sent you two links.
All you have is shoot the messenger, no links of your own or anything else of value to thread .
CalGun said:
You quoted or claimed to say that Rubio and Cruz are calling for war. Let's see it? I was asking politely, but now I think you just pulled it out of your back side.
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But you're good with McCain and Cotton calling for war!!
And nothing to add to the thread of value, just your usual attacks .
CalGun said:
Shocking link broken....next?

..ok got it to work....still no Rubio / Cruz
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The trade sanctions are pointless because we have stalled on signing any free trade agreement with Russia for a very long time. Whatever we can take away from them is marginal. Part of the economic reason why Russia is in Ukraine is because it's one of its prime trading partners.
 
First I asked you to show me where Rubio or Cruz wanted war because you said they did. I would have been upset with them had they, but it appears they didn't and you just made it up. Since you said it I've searched some of their rhetoric and they don't call for war. Here is a rubies written comment: 8 Steps Obama Must Take to Punish Russia - Marco Rubio - POLITICO Magazine

So yes calling you a liar is rough, but you lied. You made it up out of your republican hatred I can only imagine. You should go back and edit your slander of these two men. Shame on you.


NIMBY said:
So you're not interested in Republicans who are calling for war.
And calling someone a liar is not exactly being polite, especially since I sent you two links.
All you have is shoot the messenger, no links of your own or anything else of value to thread .
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So GOPs calling for a new Cold war is not War.
What comes after a Cold War CalGun?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/27/top-republicans-call-for-return-to-cold-war.html
GOPs have one set of talking points, Cold War and Hot War.
Since righties are so quick to fling the LIE word around, eat this crow .
CalGun said:
First I asked you to show me where Rubio or Cruz wanted war because you said they did. I would have been upset with them had they, but it appears they didn't and you just made it up. Since you said it I've searched some of their rhetoric and they don't call for war. Here is a rubies written comment: 8 Steps Obama Must Take to Punish Russia - Marco Rubio - POLITICO Magazine

So yes calling you a liar is rough, but you lied. You made it up out of your republican hatred I can only imagine. You should go back and edit your slander of these two men. Shame on you.
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McCain is a true RINO. I even wrote him once suggesting he join the democrats for I don't feel he accurately represents the party he claims to be in. I think even his state party condemned him recently? I don't know Cotton and don't care much about who ever Cotton is at this point. Rubio and Cruz I hope are the future of our party. I found Rubios answers typical, and I'm glad they were not a call for war / violence as you claimed they were.

NIMBY said:
But you're good with McCain and Cotton calling for war!!
And nothing to add to the thread of value, just your usual attacks .
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CalGun said:
So yes calling you a liar is rough, but you lied. You made it up out of your republican hatred I can only imagine. You should go back and edit your slander of these two men. Shame on you.
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Just after you go back and edit your 5,000 posts of hatred of Obama and Democrats .
 
CalGun said:
I found Rubios answers typical, and I'm glad they were not a call for war / violence as you claimed they were.
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Rubio wants sanctions which will lead to a cold war with a top 5 member of the security council.
He and Cruz need to let the adults speak, like Buck McKeon, instead of expanding on their ignorance .
 
Again no Rubio, no Cruz, and not even on topic. This is in response to defense cuts on 2/27 as dated on the link. I don't like to toss out the word liar on anyone, but you either did it with malice or it was an error. I am guessing by your desire to dig in and not apologize for your error that it was more intentional then not. You dishonor yourself with these lies. It's shameful of you.



NIMBY said:
So GOPs calling for a new Cold war is not War.

What comes after a Cold War CalGun?
Top Republicans Call for Return to Cold War - The Daily Beast
GOPs have one set of talking points, Cold War and Hot War.
Since righties are so quick to fling the LIE word around, eat this crow .
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GOP senators seek trade actions against Russia - Eric Bradner - POLITICO.com
At the beginning of this article, Rubio specifically calls for an end to all talks on anything except the Ukraine.
Sever trade talks with Russia.
Kick Russia out of international organizations.
Suspend Russia from the World Trade Organization.
Suspend Russia from the United Nations Security council.

Most objective posters on dp would say this is a good way to start a war.
Aren't you glad Rubio and Cruz put their own personal ambitions above those of their Nation?
CalGun said:
Ok now please show us your Rubio and Cruz quotes.....since you quoted them as demanding war.
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So when did calling for trade sanctions equate to calling for war. In your post you said Cruz and Rubio called for war...not trade sanctions? Still trying to cover up your lies. Do you work for the regime? You act like they do. Always an excuse.


NIMBY said:
GOP senators seek trade actions against Russia - Eric Bradner - POLITICO.com
At the beginning of this article, Rubio specifically calls for an end to all talks on anything except the Ukraine.
Sever trade talks with Russia.
Kick Russia out of international organizations.
Suspend Russia from the World Trade Organization.
Suspend Russia from the United Nations Security council.

Most objective posters on dp would say this is a good way to start a war.
Aren't you glad Rubio and Cruz put their own personal ambitions above those of their Nation?
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See post #193 for what shameful actions are being taken by your party.
And how you back them up saying they won't start war.
It's a simple cause-and-effect that escapes simple minds .
CalGun said:
Again no Rubio, no Cruz, and not even on topic. This is in response to defense cuts on 2/27 as dated on the link. I don't like to toss out the word liar on anyone, but you either did it with malice or it was an error. I am guessing by your desire to dig in and not apologize for your error that it was more intentional then not. You dishonor yourself with these lies. It's shameful of you.
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Looks like to me everything Rubio and Cruz suggest is diplomatic. Not one word of war as the leftist here claimed.
 
So this behavior doesn't lead to war.
Good thing No Drama Obama is in charge versus your war-mongers.
We had enough of them last decade .
CalGun said:
So when did calling for trade sanctions equate to calling for war. In your post you said Cruz and Rubio called for war...not trade sanctions? Still trying to cover up your lies. Do you work for the regime? You act like they do. Always an excuse.
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No diplomat would suggest the Rubio/Cruz laundry list of lunacy, except one who wanted war .
CalGun said:
Looks like to me everything Rubio and Cruz suggest is diplomatic. Not one word of war as the leftist here claimed.
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NIMBY said:
so this behavior doesn't lead to war.
Good thing No Drama Obama is in charge versus your war-mongers.
we had enough of them last de4cade .
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Obama will let Putin do anything he wnats to....He is scared to death of him........He is a paper tiger.
 
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