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Texas Gay Marriage Ban Latest to Be Struck Down[W:97]

Lursa said:
Luckily another minority, blacks, didnt take your advice. Or they'd still be sitting in the back of the bus and not being served in restaurants and not receiving equal job opportunities in several, mostly Southern, states. Or at least it would have taken a whole lot longer....meanwhile...it was wrong and everyone knew it. Why should people have to wait longer for what is right? To be treated equally? They are Americans and deserve the same rights and privileges as other Americans.

Sorry if all the 'hub bug' like protests and marches, petitions and legislation, are 'inconvenient'....but as we've seen with women and blacks...people DO have to fight for their civil rights.
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Again, another Obama supporter who doesn't understand what a civil right is. Race is protected, Marriage isn't, marriage is a state issue not a Federal one. Keep making the same mistake over and over again.
 
sneakosview said:
1.)Well I'll never discuss sexual activities with you or anyone else, that's called manners.
2.) Still insulting, good tactics.
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1.) didnt ask for that please stay on topic
2.) seem you think it is a good tactic but it just further exposes the failures of your post

let us know when you have something accurate or factual or something of merit on this subject
 
Conservative said:
Red states are being forced by the courts to do something they disagree with and that is the problem. This is a state issue, change state law in 50 states. Seems the SC agrees with me, this is a state issue
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Yup...the Southern states sure made the news back in the 60s when they had to be forced to segregate and actually treat other Americans equally.

It's embarrassing to look back on it now. I dont want to be part of the generation that people look back on the same way and the nicest thing they can accord us is 'ignorance.'
 
We'll see how long that lasts because the floodgates are open now.
roguenuke said:
No church is ever forced to perform any ceremonies (i.e. weddings) that they don't want to. A church can even refuse weddings for race or religion, and do all the frickin time.
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AGENT J said:
translation: sorry hatuey i still cant answer it and i have no factual defense of the lie i posted since it was proven wrong by facts. Civil unions are factually not equal to marriage and i was wrong"
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You are so brainwashed you cannot see how foolish you are. Civil unions and Marriage are state issues. You want Federal benefits, then get the Federal Govt. to provide the same benefits.
 
Conservative said:
Again, another Obama supporter who doesn't understand what a civil right is. Race is protected, Marriage isn't, marriage is a state issue not a Federal one. Keep making the same mistake over and over again.
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1.) marriage is right
2.) states cant violate individual rights

facts win again
 
Conservative said:
Again, another Obama supporter who doesn't understand what a civil right is. Race is protected, Marriage isn't, marriage is a state issue not a Federal one. Keep making the same mistake over and over again.
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Marriage isnt protected...who says it is? Gender is.

And so is sexual orientation in some states, altho not at the federal level...yet.
 
Lursa said:
Yup...the Southern states sure made the news back in the 60s when they had to be forced to segregate and actually treat other Americans equally.

It's embarrassing to look back on it now. I dont want to be part of the generation that people look back on the same way and the nicest thing they can accord us is 'ignorance.'
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There is nothing that prevents you from recognizing gay people now. Why is the marriage title so important to you? Marriage isn't a civil right, race is
 
Conservative said:
You are so brainwashed you cannot see how foolish you are. Civil unions and Marriage are state issues. You want Federal benefits, then get the Federal Govt. to provide the same benefits.
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marriage is aright
states cant violated indiviual rights

your back pedal and goal post shifting just failed and got destoryed again

also remind me what i said here?

"does that civil union gets all 1200 federal rights and protections that marriage does?
does every state recognize that civil union as marriage and give it all the rights and protections that come with marriage? "

facts win again
 
Conservative said:
There is nothing that prevents you from recognizing gay people now. Why is the marriage title so important to you? Marriage isn't a civil right, race is
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SCOTUS already ruled that 'separate is not equal.' WHy do I keep having to give you a history lesson?

Why is the title 'marriage' so important to keep from gays?
 
You didn't ask what I thought deviate was, ....hmmm. Just ignore me please.
 
Lursa said:
Marriage isnt protected...who says it is? Gender is.

And so is sexual orientation in some states, altho not at the federal level...yet.
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You continue to miss the point, since marriage is a state issue they define it and control it. Some states have authorized same sex marriage but others haven't nor will they. Since marriage is defined as a union between a man and a woman, gender isn't an issue. You want to be married and the title of married the you live by the state laws. Using gender is nothing more than typical liberal bs.
 
Lursa said:
SCOTUS already ruled that 'separate is not equal.' WHy do I keep having to give you a history lesson?

Why is the title 'marriage' so important to keep from gays?
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The SC has never ruled on the definition of marriage and the question is why?

I believe in tradition, history, states rights, and the rule of law. You want marriage for Same sex couples then change the law in the states through the voting process, not through the courts
 
sneakosview said:
You didn't ask what I thought deviate was, ....hmmm. Just ignore me please.
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deflecting wont help you
by all means provide this factual proof on what deviate is

i cant wait to read it
 
Conservative said:
You continue to miss the point, since marriage is a state issue they define it and control it. Some states have authorized same sex marriage but others haven't nor will they. Since marriage is defined as a union between a man and a woman, gender isn't an issue. You want to be married and the title of married the you live by the state laws. Using gender is nothing more than typical liberal bs.
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100% wrong
see loving vs Virginia

states dont get to trump individual rights

facts win again
 
sneakosview said:
We'll see how long that lasts because the floodgates are open now.
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The "floodgates" have been open since 1968 and the Loving decision. Guess what? Plenty of interracial couples still being refused weddings at many churches across the country. Heck, one was even refused just a few years ago by a JoP. Until you have credible evidence that this will ever change, you have nothing.

Heck, you better believe I and many others would be on the side of the church if such a thing happened.
 
Conservative said:
You continue to miss the point, since marriage is a state issue they define it and control it. Some states have authorized same sex marriage but others haven't nor will they. Since marriage is defined as a union between a man and a woman, gender isn't an issue. You want to be married and the title of married the you live by the state laws. Using gender is nothing more than typical liberal bs.
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The feds had to step in and say that states couldnt discriminate against races in marriage...correct? Hmmm.

Again....a little history goes a long way.

Gender is an issue, because the contract of marriage applies to opposite genders ONLY, meaning there is gender discrimination in contracts.
 
Conservative said:
There is nothing that prevents you from recognizing gay people now. Why is the marriage title so important to you? Marriage isn't a civil right, race is
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It's not the title, its the contract. The legal contract, with all the protections and rights and benefits of the law is called marriage.
 
Conservative said:
No, sorry, forgot who I was dealing with, people that don't understand state law and responsibility. Marriage is a state issue so are civil unions. It is up to the people of the state to create that civil union which based upon the passion you people have more marriage shouldn't be a problem
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And state laws can be struck down as unconstitutional when they cannot show that they are furthering a legitimate state interest, just as several state laws pertaining to marriage have already been struck down for being unconstitutional, including at least 2 that had nothing to do with race.
 
sneakosview said:
Well you are having trouble reading, I'm sorry let me help you. It's a "law" will you obey it, key word being "law". I certainly don't know what motivates you and don't care but I doubt we have very much in common. Well I don't agree it's my right to have religious beliefs that are superceeded by a "feel-good" liberal agendas. That said I still am obligated to obey the "law". Break out your bong and relax.
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Lursa said:
How are your religious beliefs being affected? Will you lose your faith? Will your marriage mean less? Is your ability to practice your religion being restricted?
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*crickets*
 
sneakosview said:
You didn't ask what I thought deviate was, ....hmmm. Just ignore me please.
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It doesn't matter what you think is deviant. The only thing that matters is whether you can prove it will do harm to someone. You cannot prove that same sex marriage does harm. Heck, you can't really prove that it is deviant, since deviant is a subjective term.
 
So you did ask it, not to worry, I know liberals constantly wrestle with the truth.
 
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