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Unitedwestand13 said:
Can a society be a supporter of both liberty and equality? Is equality inherently immoral?
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Depends on what you call "equality". Equal opportunity to achieve all that you can is equality, not everyone achieves equal results. Socialism, in part, is about equal results. That can only be achieved at the lowest common level.
 
NIMBY said:
Do you have teaching credentials to prove that?

How would you know WHAT schools are doing or WHAT students are thinking .
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It doesn't matter, because it's a well known fact among those of us with a brain, that schools are for teaching kids HOW to think, not WHAT to think.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
national socialism is well known, but it stains the name and reputations of other tennents of socialism.
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See, when socialism is put into practice it stains the "beautiful" theory.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Can a society be a supporter of both liberty and equality? Is equality inherently immoral?
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Support it all you want, but it will never happen and when the government enforces equality, it becomes immoral.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
National socialism does not represent the entire theory of socialism.
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I didn't say it did. There are all sorts of queer derivations of socialist theory but they all build, including National Socialism, from a common foundation. NS introduced race as a dividing principle but on other aspects it toed the line.
 
Let's not breeze past this point, OK?

Unitedwestand13 wrote: If the only sources of information about socialism you provide for students are negative portrayals, the knowledge the student will be inherently biased.

RiverDad responded: Let me try that out. "If the only sources of information about National Socialism you provide for students are negative portrayals, the knowledge the student will be inherently biased."

Why aren't you advocated treating the teaching of National Socialism in the same manner as you advocate the teaching of other forms of socialism? Relatedly, why shouldn't all teachings about socialism follow the way that we teach National Socialism in our schools?
 
RiverDad said:
Let's not breeze past this point, OK?

Unitedwestand13 wrote: If the only sources of information about socialism you provide for students are negative portrayals, the knowledge the student will be inherently biased.

RiverDad responded: Let me try that out. "If the only sources of information about National Socialism you provide for students are negative portrayals, the knowledge the student will be inherently biased."

Why aren't you advocated treating the teaching of National Socialism in the same manner as you advocate the teaching of other forms of socialism? Relatedly, why shouldn't all teachings about socialism follow the way that we teach National Socialism in our schools?
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Aaaaaaaaand NAZI! Post No. 86, what do I win?

Socialism is a system of economics. National Socialism (i.e. Nazism, which is not particularly socialist, BTW) is not.
 
apdst said:
Yeah, just like there's a difference between facism and communism, it's the difference between Coors and Budweiser.
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Coors and Budweiser are different. But they are both ****ty beers. Facism and Communism are different, but they are both ****ty systems.
 
rocket88 said:
Coors and Budweiser are different. But they are both ****ty beers. Facism and Communism are different, but they are both ****ty systems.
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Budweiser gives me a raging headache. Rice beers do that to me.
 
RiverDad said:
Let's not breeze past this point, OK?

Unitedwestand13 wrote: If the only sources of information about socialism you provide for students are negative portrayals, the knowledge the student will be inherently biased.

RiverDad responded: Let me try that out. "If the only sources of information about National Socialism you provide for students are negative portrayals, the knowledge the student will be inherently biased."

Why aren't you advocated treating the teaching of National Socialism in the same manner as you advocate the teaching of other forms of socialism? Relatedly, why shouldn't all teachings about socialism follow the way that we teach National Socialism in our schools?
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I am against portraying National socialism as a representation of all forms of socialism. the flaws and failure of national socialism does not mean every form of socialism is flawed.
 
rocket88 said:
Coors and Budweiser are different. But they are both ****ty beers. Facism and Communism are different, but they are both ****ty systems.
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Budweiser and Coors are beer. Communism and Facism are Socialism. It's that simple.
 
apdst said:
Budweiser and Coors are beer. Communism and Facism are Socialism. It's that simple.
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Wrong again! Fascism is not socialism, no matter how much you plug your ears and say "LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU."
 
apdst said:
Budweiser and Coors are beer. Communism and Facism are Socialism. It's that simple.
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rocket88 said:
Coors and Budweiser are different. But they are both ****ty beers. Facism and Communism are different, but they are both ****ty systems.
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Biting political analysis.

Good stuff.

Makes me thirst for a Yuengling.
 
Kobie said:
Wrong again! Fascism is not socialism, no matter how much you plug your ears and say "LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU."
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That's why it was started by socialists and German Fascism was called National Socialism...because Fascism isn't Socialism...riiiiiiiiight!!!
 
apdst said:
That's why it was started by socialists and German Fascism was called National Socialism...because Fascism isn't Socialism...riiiiiiiiight!!!
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Facism and Communism share themes in socialism but that does not mean they are the same thing.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
I am against portraying National socialism as a representation of all forms of socialism. the flaws and failure of national socialism does not mean every form of socialism is flawed.
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You're still evading the issue. You claim that there are some good features about socialism and you want to teach those good features to students. I, and others, claim that there are no such good features at all. I ask you why you don't also teach the good features of National Socialism so that students can make that informed decision you claim you want them to make? I'm sure that you could find some people who actually think that there are good features to National Socialism. You don't have to be the judge here. Most of us realize that National Socialism and Socialism have no good features and so we don't have to teach these supposed good features to our students. Teaching them about all of the bad features does the job intended.

It's a sin against common sense and decency that most of our young people think that Communism/Socialism is not as bad as National Socialism.
 
apdst said:
That's why it was started by socialists and German Fascism was called National Socialism...because Fascism isn't Socialism...riiiiiiiiight!!!
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Of course, calling National Socialism actual socialism is like calling the Democratic People's Republic of Korea a democracy.
 
Kobie said:
Of course, calling National Socialism actual socialism is like calling the Democratic People's Republic of Korea a democracy.
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North Korea has an elected parliament, so yes, it is a democracy. Technically speaking, that is.
 
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