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Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451:959]

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Hate speech is now banned in the NFL.

Pretty inane considering the nature of talk at the line. The refs start throwing flags on this and just wait to see how the fans react. It won't be a pretty sight.

The consequences of losing another Super Bowl has billions of dollars of negative ramifications on a state,
so I would not like to see Arizona citizens hurt this way.

Perhaps you should look into what really happens when you host a superbowl. It's not the cash cow you seem to think it is.

How Much Will The Super Bowl Cost Taxpayers? Impact On New York/New Jersey Residents In 2014

The half-life for these legislators is decreasing each new day .

Yeah, the pro-illegal folks have been saying that for years, yet they keep getting re-elected.
 
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so I would not like to see Arizona citizens hurt this way.

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They keep voting these idiots in.
 
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Nobody has a phobia of homos.

I swear some people don't understand what a phobia is.
 
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Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill - CNN.com

Gotta love the backass republicans who voted for this.

Why anyone would live there is beyond me.

Why you progressives keep calling this bill "anti-gay" when it's not? PC reasons, sympathy?

I thought you alleged "liberals" were all about freedom......... The best part is the IRS is ****ing conservative/tea party/libertarian groups up the ass - singling them out and you don't say ****.

So much for liberty!

Meanwhile you have the audacity to say a small business owner has to serve an individual that contradict their FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS????

I've read articles after articles (and in some situations progressive tyrant legislators) proposing bills to allow Muslims not to touch pork or even sell it..... How the **** is this any different?

Oh yeah because progressives are against Christianity - Islamic bigotry is fine with progressives but the second a Christian couple refuse to bake a cake for a gay couple our Constitution turns upside-down.

But I suppose that is the logic to progressivism. Retribution, retaliation and all out destruction of the capitalism model and Christianity in general.
 
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You're confused. They are allowed to refuse service to anybody they want, unless it is solely due to a person's race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation. The reason that matters is because the lack of such laws was an integral part of the systematic discrimination of black Americans (among other now-protected classes of Americans). It happened to my Jewish ancestors, so I understand what happens when you don't have such laws. One of my ancestors died because he was Jewish, or if you want to be technical, his life would have been saved by the doctor had he not been Jewish.

That's kind of a big deal, actually. You don't really have any idea what you're actually endorsing.

its easier to reword things in a obviously inaccurate and sometimes dishonest way when theres no logical and factual approach one likes.

you are 100% correct the conversation is not about denying service and never will be, its a failed starwman that nobody educated and honest fails for lol
 
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How can you tell if somebody is gay without watching them have sex?

  • When he comes in holding his husbands hand;
  • When they're romantically affectionate to each-other;
  • When in an unrelated conversation a woman mentions her wife or a man mentions his husband;
  • When your child's friend from school comes over and makes an innocent comment about what he and his moms did last weekend.

...I mean, seriously, this is how you tell if someone's straight without watching them have sex.
 
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The proposed law is certainly an attempt at proving it.

I'm not sure you understand how you prove a phobia exists.
 
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  • When he comes in holding his husbands hand;
  • When they're romantically affectionate to each-other;
  • When in an unrelated conversation a woman mentions her wife or a man mentions his husband;
  • When their kid makes an innocent comment about what he and him moms did last weekend.

...I mean, seriously, this is how you tell if someone's straight without watching them have sex.

This gave me a good giggle at the end but I completely agree.
 
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Why you progressives keep calling this bill "anti-gay" when it's not? PC reasons, sympathy?

Gotta love the right wing nut jobs who are trying to polish a turd.
 
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You need to move to AZ. You'd fit right in.

It has nothing to do with me, but with the nonexistence of homophobia. You can't prove it actually exists, so you can either stop using the term or be wrong every time you do. Whatever you decide to do is fine with me.
 
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Why you progressives keep calling this bill "anti-gay" when it's not?

Because legislators who voted for the bill and who defend the bill have said so. But the bill does go beyond that so that it would allow primarily Christian extremists who lobbied for and help write the bill to discriminate against other groups as well such as Jews and other non-Christians, Roman Catholics, Muslims, atheists and ANY group their narrow minds consider to be unsaved and "anti-Christian." That is the purpose of the bill though the major stated focus is sexual orientation. Understanding the group behind the bill that should be no surprise.
 
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Iso you can either stop using the term or be wrong every time you do.

Homophobia, shomophobia. You want this argument to be about semantics. Bottom line is, this bill will allow for the random discrimination against people based upon religious beliefs. Oddly enough those same beliefs are often based on a book of fairy tales. Hardly a way to run a decent society.
 
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Homophobia, shomophobia.

Nope, doesn't exist. You're just talking about propaganda and unproven idiocy.

You want this argument to be about semantics. Bottom line is, this bill will allow for the random discrimination of people based upon religious beliefs that are often based on a book of fairy tales. Hardly a way to run a decent society.

I see nothing wrong with it.
 
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I'm not sure you understand how you prove a phobia exists.

If the Arizona legislature attempts to make it legal to discriminate against a persons religion, race, disability, sexual orientation or political affiliation it is a phobia.
 
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Nope, doesn't exist. You're just talking about propaganda and unproven idiocy.



I see nothing wrong with it.

Most homophobes are fine with it.
 
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If the Arizona legislature attempts to make it legal to discriminate against a persons religion, race, disability, sexual orientation or political affiliation it is a phobia.

Absurdity. A law doesn't prove a phobia exists.
 
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Most homophobes are fine with it.

That is obviously an absurd statement since there is no such thing.
 
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That is obviously an absurd statement since there is no such thing.

I'm sure your fellow homophobes would love to see this bill passed.

Websters disagrees with you.

ho·mo·pho·bia noun \ˌhō-mə-ˈfō-bē-ə\

Definition of HOMOPHOBIA

: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homophobia
 
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I'm sure your fellow homophobes would love to see this bill passed.

There can be no group of something that doesn't exist.
 
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Gotta love the right wing nut jobs who are trying to polish a turd.

"Right Wing Turd"

That's funny.

Does yous read boy?

I admit I donated 6,021,003.21 YOU - you know to the Koch brothers i but I'm not right wing shill.
 
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I'd like to stay and play but I have an early ACT tutor.
I have more links, but they're all the same.
The Adult GOPs are praying for this bill to be vetoed.
Brewer is cagy, setting herself up as a hero.

I have decades of great memories out West, including Arizona, and give Thanks for having been a Teacher.
The North Rim of your GC is a completely different park, alpine, versus the desert southern rim.
I still see discussions when I visit AZ and NV about how the State of AZ would like the GC back from the USA.

Btw, Ed Schultz has been having a very non-partisan discussion of KXL with Nebraska folks.
And as CC has noted, watching People in this Nation is fascinating .
Because legislators who voted for the bill and who defend the bill have said so. But the bill does go beyond that so that it would allow primarily Christian extremists who lobbied for and help write the bill to discriminate against other groups as well such as Jews and other non-Christians, Roman Catholics, Muslims, atheists and ANY group their narrow minds consider to be unsaved and "anti-Christian." That is the purpose of the bill though the major stated focus is sexual orientation. Understanding the group behind the bill that should be no surprise.
 
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"Right Wing Turd"

That's funny.

Does yous read boy?

Better than you type apparently. I got your boy hangin.
 
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Yes, definitions appear when idiots make a phobia that doesn't exist as part of their propaganda.

Explains a great deal about you.
 
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