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Re: Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill
i did not say that....i have a right to commerce.......meaning buying OR selling, no person/government has a right to use force on another citizen, to force them to sell to them or buy from them.
the constitution states that a government cannot force a citizen to serve another citizen [13th], unless a crime has been committed........when a citizen infringes on another citizens rights.......thats a crime, not a constitutional violation.
if a citizens commits no crime, or does nothing which could cause a rights infringement, ....IE. health and safety of the people.......then government has no authority to act.........because the "people" are not endangered in any way.
you statement is based on emotional content, and not the rights of the people.
government is not here to protect your .......feelings
No one is forcing them to run a business, so it's not strictly a matter of forcing commerce on another person.
i did not say that....i have a right to commerce.......meaning buying OR selling, no person/government has a right to use force on another citizen, to force them to sell to them or buy from them.
This is too lightweight IMO. A crime is a legal term and nearly anything under the sun can (and maybe has) been labeled a crime at one time/place or another. No, being a crime doesn't legitimate or delegitimize a particular government action. As you know well, it's something outside of government and law that is the primary driver for what is right,and what is not. And discrimination is not OK in that context.
the constitution states that a government cannot force a citizen to serve another citizen [13th], unless a crime has been committed........when a citizen infringes on another citizens rights.......thats a crime, not a constitutional violation.
if a citizens commits no crime, or does nothing which could cause a rights infringement, ....IE. health and safety of the people.......then government has no authority to act.........because the "people" are not endangered in any way.
You can run a discriminatory club or organization, or private "group", etc. But a general business that serves the public, no, discrimination is not OK.
you statement is based on emotional content, and not the rights of the people.
government is not here to protect your .......feelings