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Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451:959]

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Top Cat said:
First thing you've said yet that appears original.
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I rather doubt that it was original to you.

Hitler thought that he was morally superior too, and frequently used the establishment to force his superiority on the populace. Sound familiar there? Achtung.
 
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opendebate said:
We have to. It happens all the time. You can not allow people to act freely without some realistic limitations. You can allow them to think freely and speak freely. Its reality.
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Nonsense. You are arguing the absurdity that the law must be violated in some cases, in order that it may be maintained in others. It's essentially arguing that a man must consent to have his arms tied behind him, in order that his friends might protect the rest of his body against an enemy.
 
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Gipper said:
I'm sure it's fun when liberal authoritarians like you get to let government tell you what to do and believe at the point of a gun.

Sieg heil.
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Alright, time for facts. The bill sounds like it has a Libertarian twist--the ability of private business owners to ban patrons it doesn't want.

But the AZ leg, as everyone knows, isn't interested in entrepreneurial freedom; if it was, it wouldn't be so crazy about banning undocumented immigrants, many of whom have several business wanting to hire them.

There may be loopholes in the bill that would prohibit a private business from discriminating on the basis of non-Xtian religions. Have you considered that?
 
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Top Cat said:
Throwing someone out of your restaurant because they are gay is funny to you And you wonder why there are so few right wing comedians that are worth a ****.
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Your emotional outbursts are noted, but should also be noted for future reference as ineffectual.
 
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blarg said:
how would you do that if the attitude was wide spread enough?
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Move to a place where it wasn't. If there wasn't a place where I was accepted, I would begin to consider that maybe I'm doing something wrong.
 
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Henrin said:
Your emotional outbursts are noted, but should be noted for future reference as ineffectual.
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Laughing at the humiliation of others is way right wingers roll. Keeping it classy.
 
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Top Cat said:
Laughing at the humiliation of others is way right wingers roll. Keeping it classy.
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I was laughing at your post, but hey, good job paying attention.
 
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solletica said:
Alright, time for facts. The bill sounds like it has a Libertarian twist--the ability of private business owners to ban patrons it doesn't want.

But the AZ leg, as everyone knows, isn't interested in entrepreneurial freedom; if it was, it wouldn't be so crazy about banning undocumented immigrants, many of whom have several business wanting to hire them.

There may be loopholes in the bill that would prohibit a private business from discriminating on the basis of non-Xtian religions. Have you considered that?
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Yes I have, and that's fine.

Just like a liberal - thinking everyone else only supports discrimination against things they're not. If a black establishment didn't want to sell me fried chicken and collards, that's fine. I'd take my money down the street to someone who wants it. I wouldn't bitch and whine.

I am pro-business. Period. Bottom line. End of story.
 
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clownboy said:
Well, if you're that butthurt because one business refuses you service, maybe you'll grow up and just shop elsewhere.
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Yeah, that's what they used to tell black folks years ago, too. It seems a common refrain from the Far Right.
 
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Gipper said:
I rather doubt that it was original to you.

Hitler thought that he was morally superior too, .
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No doubt he wouldn't serve gays either. Lick au mosh
 
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Wiggen said:
Yeah, that's what they used to tell black folks years ago, too. It seems a common refrain from the Far Right.
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And it's still true.
 
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Gipper said:
Yes I have, and that's fine.

Just like a liberal - thinking everyone else only supports discrimination against things they're not. If a black establishment didn't want to sell me fried chicken and collards, that's fine. I'd take my money down the street to someone who wants it. I wouldn't bitch and whine.

I am pro-business. Period. Bottom line. End of story.
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So you would support the notion that any business can discriminate for any reason? I see why you like Rand Paul so much. He doesn't care for the Civil Rights Act of 1965 much, either.
 
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Top Cat said:
No doubt he wouldn't serve gays either. Lick au mosh
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And the thing you have in common is as I said - you both think you're superior, and support a state to force it upon people.

I love dictatorships.
 
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Top Cat said:
No doubt he wouldn't serve gays either. Lick au mosh
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What is with the Far right and their burning desire to discriminate against people who don't think or act or look exactly the same way they do? Are they born with it, or do they develop that bigotry after years of training?
 
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Gipper said:
And the thing you have in common is as I said - you both think you're superior, and support a state to force it upon people.

I love dictatorships.
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NO, you love discrimination. At least be honest about it.
 
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Wiggen said:
What is with the Far right and their burning desire to discriminate against people who don't think or act or look exactly the same way they do? Are they born with it, or do they develop that bigotry after years of training?
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Why is it that liberals can't figure out the difference between protecting the rights of people and supporting those actions? Oh wait, they can, but only with abortion.
 
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Wiggen said:
NO, you love discrimination. At least be honest about it.
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Not even close. If I was a business owner I wouldn't discriminate.

I'm just not liberal enough to have the arrogance that demands everyone be exactly like me. The funny thing is that you guys claim to be the tolerant ones.
 
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Top Cat said:
The feeble minded can't comprehend broader concepts.
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I am honestly beginning to wonder.
 
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Henrin said:
Dumping toxic waste on someones else's property is entirely different than refusing someone service.
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Sure it is but work with me. Both are destructive to the environment. The only reason being forced to serve a gay man in your restaurant is even a problem for that business owner is because he is being intolerant. He does him no real harm. What I say to that business owner is grow up, let people be who they are and recognize that who or what they are is none of your business and you will receive the same consideration.
 
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Henrin said:
Nonsense. You are arguing the absurdity that the law must be violated in some cases, in order that it may be maintained in others. It's essentially arguing that a man must consent to have his arms tied behind him, in order that his friends might protect the rest of his body against an enemy.
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Now that makes no sense.
 
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opendebate said:
Nice spin Mr. O'Riley
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Truth, not spin.

The only way it can be considered anti-gay is because it won't force people to pretend to be tolerant when they're not.

I wish I could be a moral absolutist and superior like so many people on this thread. I enjoy watching the finger-wagging from way on high.
 
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