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Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451:959]

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This would only effect a narrow selection of patrons. Apart from gay weddings and such, there's really no need for anyone to know your sexuality.

Absolutely, unless you're the sort who seems compelled to announce it to everyone in the room.
 
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This would only effect a narrow selection of patrons. Apart from gay weddings and such, there's really no need for anyone to know your sexuality.

So you don't think someone will walk into Home Depot and yell "I'm gay and I need a shovel!"?
 
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Actually tourism is pretty good and Moody's Analytics predicts that Arizona will be one of the national leaders in job growth this year.

Good to know, thanks. What ya think of that Northern Lights?
 
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So you don't think someone will walk into Home Depot and yell "I'm gay and I need a shovel!"?

Maybe Ellen Page is visiting? :mrgreen:
 
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So atheist business owners could deny service to religious customers, so long as they assert that it's because of their atheism? Bet that would make a lot of religious idiots scream.

I am afraid if Atheist businesses that denied religious customers access would not have much business.
 
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Good to know, thanks. What ya think of that Northern Lights?

Didn't see them.
 
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So you don't think someone will walk into Home Depot and yell "I'm gay and I need a shovel!"?

I've seen plenty of overtly excessive sexual display in too many places here in Austin but, this place is crawling with them.
 
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So atheist business owners could deny service to religious customers, so long as they assert that it's because of their atheism? Bet that would make a lot of religious idiots scream.

I would totally agree that they have that right. Private business is private business.
 
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I've seen plenty of overtly excessive sexual display in too many places here in Austin but, this place is crawling with them.

Gay shovels?
 
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How was the city?

It was great.......we stayed there for a week in Chandler a suburb..........we checked out the prices of homes the and they are amazingly low.
 
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Property rights and the right to ones own labor only bothers those that want to impose their will on others.
 
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Gay people not being allowed in straight establishments? Sounds like modern segregation to me, especially if all they have to say is their spiritual beliefs are offended.

Honestly, if your spiritual beliefs are that bigoted, then **** your spiritual beliefs. Maybe you should open a church instead of a business. Oh wait... same thing.

If a gay man enters a restaurant how can you tell if he is Gay unless he is flaunting his sexuality.
 
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That would be the FEDERAL constitution. The law as it has come to be understood currently denies the religious observance of some business holders.

Doesn't this set a pretty bad precedent?
 
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Doesn't this set a pretty bad precedent?

I think you misunderstood, and to be fair my wording was clumsy, I was talking about laws already on the books as it is, and yes, it does indeed set a bad precedent.

But hey, those gay folk must have their wedding cakes made by folks who don't want to serve them after all.
 
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But hey, those gay folk must have their wedding cakes made by folks who don't want to serve them after all.

I'm gonna guess you're kidding on this part
 
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If a gay man enters a restaurant how can you tell if he is Gay unless he is flaunting his sexuality.

Define flaunting his sexuality.
 
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Define flaunting his sexuality.

Really?

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Nope, real case that started this ball rolling.

No, I get that. I thought you were jokingly endorsing it. Sorry if I misunderstood.
 
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If a gay man enters a restaurant how can you tell if he is Gay unless he is flaunting his sexuality.

Do you have the same problem when a hot young woman is flaunting her sexuality?
 
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No, I get that. I thought you were jokingly endorsing it. Sorry if I misunderstood.

Ahh.

You know, back in the 60s and 70s Disneyland didn't allow hippies in. I stopped doing business with them. I don't hate Disneyland, nor did I ever press to see that overturned by law or court, I still won't go there or take my kids there.
 
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Do you have the same problem when a hot young woman is flaunting her sexuality?

When I'm eating, pretty much. When I'm eating with young ones, definitely.
 
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Ahh.

You know, back in the 60s and 70s Disneyland didn't allow hippies in. I stopped doing business with them. I don't hate Disneyland, nor did I ever press to see that overturned by law or court, I still won't go there or take my kids there.

I don't get that. I always felt like as a parent to prepare your child on how to deal with the realities of the world they are surrounded by. It seems wiser to teach them how to handle it in a way that is healthiest for them rather then to protect them from it.
 
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Gay people not being allowed in straight establishments? Sounds like modern segregation to me, especially if all they have to say is their spiritual beliefs are offended.

Honestly, if your spiritual beliefs are that bigoted, then **** your spiritual beliefs. Maybe you should open a church instead of a business. Oh wait... same thing.

That's not at all what this bill is about.

The idea was to create a protection for businesses that might get ambushed by 'crusaders'. For example, I have a client who makes custom ceramics. She makes all kinds of stuff with angels and crosses and other symbols generally associated with Christianity. If someone comes into her shop and wants a pentagram and goat head on a platter and she chooses not to make it because she's a Christian and opposed to such imagery she should be allowed to refuse that particular job.
 
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