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Arizona lawmakers pass controversial anti-gay bill[W:451:959]

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blarg said:
ya that's what these business owners who want to discriminate against gay people are doing
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No it isnt. They just arent serving them. Now if they were taking property from gays or killing them, this would be a different story.
 
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Lutherf said:
Are you conducting interviews on the way in or something?
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Actually I have built in "Rightwingdar".
 
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opendebate said:
Freedom has to have some realistic limitations and there are many laws on the books already that do so. Those laws generally put limitations on actions to protect people.

Equality is limited in the same way. It does not present the same risks
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Sorry, but the argument that we must limit the rights of people to protect the rights of people is arguing an absurdity; in that, you can protect rights while actively violating them.
 
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Wiseone said:
I really find myself sad for my home state way too much.
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AZ has plumbing and electricity, so it's better than Mississippi.
 
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Phil_Osophy said:
Explain how refusing to serve someone is destructive.
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Humiliating someone is something less than destructive? I can only imagine you being refused service because you wanted to have lunch with your gay son.

I'm sure you would react well.
 
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Phil_Osophy said:
How can a business **** with your life by not serving you?
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maybe a business cant a lot of them doing it can

this kind of thing means being a part of anything that's not popular can result in no one serving you as long as no one feels like it

what if you have a business of your own and other company's you rely on can refuse to do business with you because your gay or black or Mormon or what ever
 
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Top Cat said:
Humiliating someone is something less than destructive? I can only imagine you being refused service because you wanted to have lunch with your gay son.
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Humiliating someone? Thats the best you can do? Lol
 
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Phil_Osophy said:
What gives you the right to decide how he conducts his business? Whu should you have any control over his property?
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I don't. The community does. I would no more want a business that treats its customers in my community this way then I would want that same business dumping it's toxic waste in my community park. We limit business all the time and should based on the damage it can do if left unregulated. This is just another example. He can think and feel however he chooses but again, actions are another matter.
 
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This isn't anti-gay. It's pro-business.
 
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blarg said:
maybe a business cant a lot of them doing it can

this kind of thing means being a part of anything that's not popular can result in no one serving you as long as no one feels like it

what if you have a business of your own and other company's you rely on can refuse to do business with you because your gay or black or Mormon or what ever
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I would have to stop relying on them


blarg said:
maybe a business cant a lot of them doing it can

this kind of thing means being a part of anything that's not popular can result in no one serving you as long as no one feels like it

what if you have a business of your own and other company's you rely on can refuse to do business with you because your gay or black or Mormon or what ever
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blarg said:
maybe a business cant a lot of them doing it can

this kind of thing means being a part of anything that's not popular can result in no one serving you as long as no one feels like it

what if you have a business of your own and other company's you rely on can refuse to do business with you because your gay or black or Mormon or what ever
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Phil_Osophy said:
No it isnt. They just arent serving them. Now if they were taking property from gays or killing them, this would be a different story.
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um yes it is

don't be gay its against are principles or else we wont serve you
 
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Henrin said:
Sorry, but the argument that we must limit the rights of people to protect the rights of people is arguing an absurdity; in that, you can protect rights while actively violating them.
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We have to. It happens all the time. You can not allow people to act freely without some realistic limitations. You can allow them to think freely and speak freely. Its reality.
 
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Phil_Osophy said:
Humiliating someone? Thats the best you can do? Lol
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So when this extends to black people on the basis of religious freedom you're fine with this as well?
 
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Phil_Osophy said:
Explain how refusing to serve someone is destructive.
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How many violent acts spring from intolerance?
 
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Gipper said:
This isn't anti-gay. It's pro-business.
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it is anti gay

not sure how its going to help any ones business
 
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Navy Pride said:
I was in Phoenix a year ago in December for my grandson's graduation from Arizona St where he received his PHD in Geochemistry.
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Phoenix has a university? I thought the AZ leg banned universities.
 
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opendebate said:
I don't. The community does. I would no more want a business that treats its customers in my community this way then I would want that same business dumping it's toxic waste in my community park. We limit business all the time and should based on the damage it can do if left unregulated. This is just another example. He can think and feel however he chooses but again, actions are another matter.
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Dumping toxic waste on someones else's property is entirely different than refusing someone service.
 
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Phil_Osophy said:
I would have to stop relying on them
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how would you do that if the attitude was wide spread enough?
 
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Top Cat said:
You think it's funny. Speaks volumes.
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It's funny because you think it is a legitimate reason for the state to act on someone.
 
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opendebate said:
How many violent acts spring from intolerance?
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That is the fault of those taking part in the violence. :shrug:
 
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Gipper said:
This isn't anti-gay. It's pro-business.
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Several so-called "private" businesses receive taxpayer subsidies. Hence, it could amount to taxpayer-forced religious discrimination, a violation of the Constitution.

If the subsidies, corporate welfare, etc. could be eliminated, then I'd be all for the bill.
 
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Henrin said:
It's funny because you think it is a legitimate reason for the state to act on someone.
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Throwing someone out of your restaurant because they are gay is funny to you And you wonder why there are so few right wing comedians that are worth a ****.
 
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Top Cat said:
Pass me the right wing radio bong please.
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I'm sure it's fun when liberal authoritarians like you get to let government tell you what to do and believe at the point of a gun.

Sieg heil.
 
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