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Food prices soar as incomes stand still

fmw said:
Food prices aren't due to a fight against sulphur. It results from inflation. I will get worse. Much, much worse. The big losers are the retired.
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1%-2% inflation is nothing it is within the healthy range.
 
Carjosse said:
1%-2% inflation is nothing it is within the healthy range.
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But I don't believe it is 1 to 2%. Only the government believes that.
 
GottaGo said:
Obesity is rarely to be found when someone is eating healthy foods unless there are other health issues at hand.

Where do you think the funds to support those programs comes from? It doesn't grow on trees...... ;)

I'm not playing the 'but they have this and that' game. Right now, groceries of the reasonably healthy sort are expensive. $1.67 a pound for apples, $1.72 for zucchini and yellow squash, $2 a head of lettuce.

Have you read some of those cereal labels? They are frightening... synthetic chemicals and high sugars are not food....
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Heya GG.
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Worse now with the way Winter has been too. Citrus crops, and others all affected by this winter. Same thing with Fresh lake Fisheries too. Already mentioning to the consumers that these prices for these types of foods will be on the rise.
 
fmw said:
Like I said, only the government believes that.
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It is their job to calculate inflation and make the information publicly available, it is the real statistics. Please tell me how the government is lying about inflation?
 
Not to worry. The poor can eat their health insurance policies. They won't even have to buy toilet paper.
 
Carjosse said:
It is their job to calculate inflation and make the information publicly available, it is the real statistics. Please tell me how the government is lying about inflation?
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The Bureau of Labor Statistics, which is "the government," calculates and publishes inflation statistics in all kinds of ways, one of which is the core CPI, which does not include food and energy costs. Although.....its not called lying.
 
MMC said:
The Bureau of Labor Statistics, which is "the government," calculates and publishes inflation statistics in all kinds of ways, one of which is the core CPI, which does not include food and energy costs. Although.....its not called lying.
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I'm not using the CPI, I'm using the food part which 1.1%. The CPI includes fuel and food, the core index does not and that is the one economists care about.
 
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opendebate said:
A box of macaroni and cheese is about $1.00 and you can feed three kids lunch on it. Do you have any examples of foods that are more nutritious that you can feed three kids on for the amount of money?

I don't necessarily think you are wrong but I do think it takes a great deal of creativity, resourcefulness and time at the very least.

I would love some examples.
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Considering a box of Kraft mac n cheese makes 3 1/3 cup servings, those kids aren't eating much.
Kraft Macaroni & Cheese Nutrition Information | LIVESTRONG.COM

Tomato and American cheese sandwich on bread or toast would be a better alternative.

Tomato soup (without HFCS) and toast.

Chicken noodle soup (low sodium) with saltines.
 
Carjosse said:
I'm not using the CPI, I'm using the food part which 1.1%. The CPI includes fuel and food, the core index does not and that is the one economists care about.
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Well, you didn't say that when you asked with what I responded to.....Right? Either way you were shown a way that the government can omit data.
 
sangha said:
SO suddenly, education isn't the only thing required to make food affordable.

Even you didn't believe the blather you spewed
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Please quote where I said education only.

I believe information is the best source for people to make educated choices.

Since you haven't offered any other alternative methods of providing nutrition, I'll have to guess you have none to offer.
 
MMC said:
Well, you didn't say that when you asked with what I responded to.....Right? Either way you were shown a way that the government can omit data.
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I'm not seeing any omission the CPI tells us what it is suppose to, the inflation of consumer goods, that is what legislation is based while economists and a central bank make decisions using the core index. They are also broken down and when I read the statistics in the news they show both and show the categories.
 
GottaGo said:
Considering a box of Kraft mac n cheese makes 3 1/3 cup servings, those kids aren't eating much.
Kraft Macaroni & Cheese Nutrition Information | LIVESTRONG.COM

Tomato and American cheese sandwich on bread or toast would be a better alternative.

Tomato soup (without HFCS) and toast.

Chicken noodle soup (low sodium) with saltines.
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My daughter is actually studying nutrition as SFSU. She volunteers in low income communities to educate them about more nutritional low cost alternatives. It's not as easy as you think.
 
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opendebate said:
My daughter is actually studying nutrition as SFSU. She volunteers in low income communities to education them about more nutritional low cost alternatives. It's not as easy as you think.
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As a volunteer, I have given classes on nutrition to low income groups and seniors also. No, it's not easy. But at least it gives them the chance to make better choices.
 
Anomalism said:
The reasonable alternative is stop allowing less than 1% of the country to monopolize the vast majority of the wealth.
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You're one of those who doesn't quite understand the concept of wealth creation, right?
 
The viable long term solution to lowering food costs is for communities to focus on locally grown food. Locally produced food builds local economies instead of being handed over to corporations in another cities, states, or Countries. Since the food moves through fewer hands, more of the money you spend tends to get to the people growing it. Not to mention locally produced has a much less environmental impact.
 
GottaGo said:
As a volunteer, I have given classes on nutrition to low income groups and seniors also. No, it's not easy. But at least it gives them the chance to make better choices.
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When I was researching retirement homes for my mother some years ago a volunteer told me that she and others in the community deliver food to low income seniors in the area. She said that there were instances of them eating cat food because it was all they could afford. How ****ing tragic is that? Point being, there are alternatives but it is tough to know what those are without the education you have and my daughter has and affordability is a huge factor. You just can't deny that given the number of people out there who struggle with this issue every day. They aren't all lazy idiots.
 
GottaGo said:
So being unable to afford food is a reasonable alternative?
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Helping people buy food is easier than helping them grow new lungs.
 
danarhea said:
Sounds delicious. Let me get my barbecue pit. :mrgreen:
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what you do with your trickle down check is up to you, but stay away from my pony. i'm going to hire a security firm to guard the perimeter of my compound with the rest of my trickle down check, so that will make me a job creator, as well.
 
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