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Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

AGENT J said:
there is no evidence in there that says humans do not have sexual orientation LMAO none, zero zip, notta

theres also no "We're" thats waiting for this facts nobody here agrees with your false claim and the medical community disagreses with you lol

you made a claim and now you have to back it up, let us know when you can

simply post the FACTUAL proof that humans dont have sexual orientations

animals dont matter
acts dont matter
opinions dont matter

facts win again
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Why don't you post a citation from a credible source in the scientific community to show us these "facts". . .:lol:
 
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solletica said:
FYI, the medical community has already read it. . .

PsychiatryOnline | Psychiatric Services | Queer Science: The Use and Abuse of Research Into Homosexuality
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they have also "read" that being gay is a mental disorder lol


what we are waiting on is FACTS that say "sexual orientation does not exists in humans"

until you can FACTUALLY prove this you got nothing and we and the medical community disagree with your fallacy
 
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solletica said:
Seems like you're the one that's dodging; I posted an article from a credible source--one that's been reviewed by the medical community,

and you've yet to post any sources/cites. We're still waiting. . .
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nope theres nothing in the article that says human being dont have sexual orientation

until you can do this you got nothing
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

solletica said:
Why don't you post a citation from a credible source in the scientific community to show us these "facts". . .:lol:
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dont need to, whats the definitions of hetero/homo/and bi sexual orentation? who defined them? the medical community lol
facts win again
 
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AGENT J said:
they have also "read" that being gay is a mental disorder lol
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Except articles claiming that homosexual behavior is abnormal have been refuted by science, seeing as how animals engage in homosexual behavior under observation.

But we've yet to see any citation that demonstrates pure inter-species homosexuality or heterosexuality under controlled observations.

We're still waiting for your cite. Why is that you can't cite anything, even though you claim your views are scientifically valid? ?
 
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Peter Grimm said:
My facts are more factual than your facts.
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really, your facts are backed up and can be support and proved by the medical community?

please post them now

your post fails again lol
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

AGENT J said:
dont need to, whats the definitions of hetero/homo/and bi sexual orentation? who defined them? the medical community lol
facts win again
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How come you haven't yet posted any academic citations for your "facts" ?
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

solletica said:
Except articles claiming that homosexual behavior is abnormal have been refuted by science, seeing as how animals engage in homosexual behavior under observation.

But we've yet to see any citation that demonstrates pure inter-species homosexuality or heterosexuality under controlled observations.

We're still waiting for your cite. Why is that you can't cite anything, even though you claim your views are scientifically valid? ?
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still nothing huh?

let us know when that changes
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

solletica said:
Why don't you post us some facts that prove that gay or straight animals, i. e. those that engage in purely homosexual or heterosexual sex w/the same species, exists.
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Please stop, engaging in purely hetero or homosexual acts is not the same thing as being gay or straight....
 
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Redress said:
How many flaws can we find with this;

1:

Most homosexuals reproduce the exact same way heterosexuals reproduce.

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Homosexuals can and do reproduce without any special adaptations.

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And yet many animal species do just that. Further, many animals in nature use far more counterintuitive and straight up bizarre methods to reproduce. Here, let me present it to you in cartoon form:

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And yet it has been done throughout history, by other animal specias, and many(most?) gay people don't do this. That is alot of fail in one comment.

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Do you know the mechanics of how sex evolved to be pleasurable? It encourages people to do it. SO anal sex being pleasurable...

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You have a painfully simplistic view of people's motivations. People do things every day that do not feel good, and don't do things that do.

7:

I suspect most people would realize dirt is dirtier than anything.

8:

We also tend to avoid piss and blood on the street. Guess what those come out of...

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So you are using a definition of natural that means something other than "occuring in nature". What would that definition be?

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Your fixation on the anus is hilarious. Your ignorance is even moreso. Hint: there are other things in the anus, starting with air, and continuing on.

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Really? That is certainly not my experience.

12:

They are taught by people. People can be wrong. Certainly not a valid argument on the topic.

13:

I am rather embarassed that one person can be so wrong. You should probably try harder, because your post is a mess of inaccuracies and falsehoods.

14:

For as fixated on anal sex as you are, you sure are ignorant of alot of the details. Hint: washing after is good, so is protection...



Well no, actually your post was entirely devoid of logic. Luckily for you, I have some time to correct you and hopefully teach you. What makes it particularly sad, is that your post says nothing about homosexuality, which is what every one else is talking about. Why exactly did you feel the need to talk about anal sex in detail in a thread that has nothing to do with it? Inquiring minds want to know...
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Dress, I'm not even going to bother.. What's the point, you like anal sex, think it's normal and natural, no amount of logic will sway you from your habit. As far as I know there's only one way to produce human children, one lucky male sperm, and one female egg. Heterosexuals don't have to think about it, homosexuals do. Mother nature isn't aware that we have test tubes and turkey basters, so that kinda throws a wrench into the "natural" argument, eh? The fact that homosexuals can reproduce was not the argument, it was whether they do so naturally. Ummm, nope they do not, period, and I know you think they do, BUT they don't, and I'm sorry that this makes you uncomfortable. Have at er big boy, delusions are fantastic. ;)

Tim-

Tim-
 
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Koros said:
Women don't have a penis. So, where is your anti-lesbian diatribe going to come from, huh? Or is it just, as it is for almost all homophobes, that you only want to denounce those people who you don't jack off to at night?
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No but they can buy them at the store, and often do, in fact I've never met a lesbian that hasn't used one, like EVER.. Got anything else? :)

Tim-
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Hicup said:
No but they can buy them at the store, and often do, in fact I've never met a lesbian that hasn't used one, like EVER.. Got anything else? :)

Tim-
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Are you going to answer my question? Where are you going to get your anti-lesbian diatribe from, since it can't have anything to do with sticking their penises in things?
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

AGENT J said:
really, your facts are backed up and can be support and proved by the medical community?

please post them now

your post fails again lol
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Smh there you go again, trying to hide from the truth with deflections. The facts don't lie.
 
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Peter Grimm said:
Smh there you go again, trying to hide from the truth with deflections. The facts don't lie.
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Translation: no you do not, thanks but we already knew that

lets us know when you do :)
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

solletica said:
Queer theory is currently the most scientifically valid description of sexuality, based on all available evidence of human and animal sexual behavior.

The whole "gay" vs. "straight" separation is just popular claptrap--a relic of a time when there was tremendous discrimination against homosexual acts.
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Actually, no it's not. If you know anything about social sciences, you would know that "the most scientifically valid description" is a load of horse crap when applied to the humanities. "Queer theory," which in and of itself is a disgusting name, has a great many learned detractors.

And you never answered my question. Are you honestly saying that the billions of people in this world who identify as purely attracted to only one sex are wrong?
 
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Koros said:
Are you going to answer my question? Where are you going to get your anti-lesbian diatribe from, since it can't have anything to do with sticking their penises in things?
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I like chicks bro.. Two of them is just more chicks. Duh? :)


Tim-
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Hicup said:
I like chicks bro.. Two of them is just more chicks. Duh? :)


Tim-
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Ah, so you are just another self-righteous conservative hypocrite. How boring. You can't even come up with something unique about yourself.
 
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AGENT J said:
Translation: no you do not, thanks but we already knew that

lets us know when you do :)
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Do you speak of yourself in the plural form? Damn I thought I was high on myself, you're over here using the royal "we."
 
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Koros said:
Ah, so you are just another self-righteous conservative hypocrite. How boring. You can't even come up with something unique about yourself.
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Unique like taking it up the butt?
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

solletica said:
that demonstrates pure inter-species homosexuality or heterosexuality under controlled observations.
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If you want to sound educated on this topic, it may help if you learned the difference between "inter-species" and "intra-species." :lamo
 
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Peter Grimm said:
Unique like taking it up the butt?
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And, there is the other carbon-copy straight man. You are really boring, you know that?
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Peter Grimm said:
Do you speak of yourself in the plural form? Damn I thought I was high on myself, you're over here using the royal "we."
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Nothing yet huh? again let us know when you can back up your false claim :)
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Hicup said:
Dress, I'm not even going to bother..
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And yet you did...

What's the point, you like anal sex, think it's normal and natural, no amount of logic will sway you from your habit.
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Straw men and mistaken. I never claimed anal sex was normal, it is natural in that it occurs in nature, but that does not mean much. You have yet to use any logic, so whether it would sway me is unknown.

And your fixation on anal sex is truly disturbing. I thought this was a discussion of homosexuality...

As far as I know there's only one way to produce human children, one lucky male sperm, and one female egg. Heterosexuals don't have to think about it, homosexuals do.
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Oddly, most heterosexual people think about sex frequently, about as frequently as homosexual people. Both are perfectly capable of creating children.

Mother nature isn't aware that we have test tubes and turkey basters, so that kinda throws a wrench into the "natural" argument, eh?
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I am not sure what test tubes and turkey basters have to do with anything except your lack of knowledge about human reproduction.

The fact that homosexuals can reproduce was not the argument, it was whether they do so naturally.
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They do, and have done so throughout history. Long before there where test tubes and turkey basters.

Ummm, nope they do not, period, and I know you think they do, BUT they don't, and I'm sorry that this makes you uncomfortable.
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Well, my sister and I will be laughing at your assertion we do not exist.

Have at er big boy, delusions are fantastic. ;)

Tim-

Tim-
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I am very grounded in the real world. I am the one who knows how human reproduction works, who understands the difference between acts and orientation, and does not have this over the top fixation on anal sex.
 
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Koros said:
Ah, so you are just another self-righteous conservative hypocrite. How boring. You can't even come up with something unique about yourself.
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You never asked me to come up with something unique about myself, did you? Did I miss something? You asked me in a pleasant, none aggressive manner to include lesbians in my diatribe. Well, sure, I can, I have an argument for that as well, but first why don't you address what I wrote about poop first.. :) I see your signature so I expect some serious game.. Got some?

Tim-
 
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