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Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

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Sociopaths are classified as having antisocial personality disorder which leads to a disregard of the rights of others and unstable or broken relationships. As such it causes dysfunction. Please refer to the DSM.

Anal sex is a specific sexual behavior, not a mental illness. and over a third of heterosexuals have reported doing it. I am not sure why that is relevant since straight people do it and not all gay people do it.

Which can lead to, not always. Not all sociopaths engage in antisocial behavior or disregard the rights of others. Do you have any proof that all sociopaths do?

So it exist outside of desires and impulses which are controlled by the Brain? Desire to participate in activities known to cause physical injury to others is not abnormal behavior? Knowing that longterm engagement in such acts can cause permanent injury to others is not abnormal?
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...

Really, it's all about staying in the public eye with that career. There is absolutely no reason for her to make such a non-anouncement in front of the cameras if she wasn't after the publicity.

How exactly would you know that. How do you know her motivation? That's a pretty self-righteous claim to say that you know someones motives better than they do. Do you recall that she explained, in great detail, why she was making her statement. Yet....you know better. Forget the fact that it makes no sense. What is she doing, trying to horde all those great lesbian roles Hollywood consistently offers?
 
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Sure, I guess I should have specified I was looking for a legitimate reason that being "not normal" could be used to justify denying anyone equal rights or being treated like a human being. We all know that if being normal is a legitimate reason to discriminate we're all in a whole **** load of trouble.

If you're looking for legitimate reasons out of this crew, you're going to be looking for a while.
 
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I'm married to a Beautiful Japanese girl who I have a son with.

Because I stand up for individual liberty you attack me.

You're a fraud, a fake, you're not a Small Government Conservative, you're a Republican Stooge only.

Whatever they so goes for you including discrimination against gays.

I find it interesting that Yourstar a MOD who takes every opportunity to infract me for similar comments, liked your post. Odd.. ;)


Tim-
 
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If you're looking for legitimate reasons out of this crew, you're going to be looking for a while.

I honestly get to the point where I think it is just a fundamental difference in the perceived value of respecting other humans and prioritizing that respect over getting past their adolescent bout of the heebie-jeebies and their uncontrollable need to make everyone else be just like them.

There is no way any of them could review their statements on this board and not recognize eventually that there argument basically boils down to "because I said so!".
 
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Sure, I guess I should have specified I was looking for a legitimate reason that being "not normal" could be used to justify denying anyone equal rights or being treated like a human being. We all know that if being normal is a legitimate reason to discriminate we're all in a whole **** load of trouble.

Seriously?

None of us are "normal" - you think there is this population out there that just hates "abnormal people" on the mere premise they're "abnormal."

I'm sure there are a bunch of clowns that make 6 figures, wear a suit and tie to work and believe anyone who doesn't live their live is a looser or something but - but I'm sure those personas are rare....... It's not exactly like your typical right leaning person or even classical liberal obsesses over who is gay...
 
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How exactly would you know that. How do you know her motivation? That's a pretty self-righteous claim to say that you know someones motives better than they do. Do you recall that she explained, in great detail, why she was making her statement. Yet....you know better. Forget the fact that it makes no sense. What is she doing, trying to horde all those great lesbian roles Hollywood consistently offers?

Yet progressives pretend to know everyone elses motives
 
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Seriously?

None of us are "normal" - you think there is this population out there that just hates "abnormal people" on the mere premise they're "abnormal."

I'm sure there are a bunch of clowns that make 6 figures, wear a suit and tie to work and believe anyone who doesn't live their live is a looser or something but - but I'm sure those personas are rare....... It's not exactly like your typical right leaning person or even classical liberal obsesses over who is gay...

I was responding to a specific series of posts which argued that homosexuality was not normal. Who cares? I think that the majority of people out there have some thing about them that others would think odd or not normal. Yes. I think there are a population of people out there who need others to be like them to reinforce their own life choices.
 
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Yet progressives pretend to know everyone elses motives

sweeping generalizations are awesome.
 
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I was responding to a specific series of posts which argued that homosexuality was not normal. Who cares? I think that the majority of people out there have some thing about them that others would think odd or not normal. Yes. I think there are a population of people out there who need others to be like them to reinforce their own life choices.

I can agree with you there but I don't think they hate anyone - they just believe they're better then everyone and IMO, that is an epic personality flaw that has nothing to do with politics generally...

However, I do believe progressives believe they're better than anyone else for "embracing" homosexual marriage, where as I just don't give a **** who is gay.... Just as long as another man doesn't try to "hit on me" I could care less.

Why the **** should I care what they do in their own bedrooms?

I don't even know Helen Page - why the hell should I care about her sexuality?
 
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I can agree with you there but I don't think they hate anyone - they just believe they're better then everyone and IMO, that is an epic personality flaw that has nothing to do with politics generally...

However, I do believe progressives believe they're better than anyone else for "embracing" homosexual marriage, where as I just don't give a **** who is gay.... Just as long as another man doesn't try to "hit on me" I could care less.

Why the **** should I care what they do in their own bedrooms?

I don't even know Helen Page - why the hell should I care about her sexuality?

yep you dont care you just keep posting, posting anger and posting melt downs etc etc in this thread LMAO
#exposed
#halarious
 
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sweeping generalizations are awesome.

Well then why do progressives continue to call non-progressives, racists, homophobes, war on woman, war on blacks etc...

I'm not generalizing or making anything up - progressives are the ones making outlandish accusations without any evidence to support their claims.
 
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Well then why do progressives continue to call non-progressives, racists, homophobes, war on woman, war on blacks etc...

I'm not generalizing or making anything up - progressives are the ones making outlandish accusations without any evidence to support their claims.

yes you are, there are people on this very board that label themselves progressive and dont do ANYTHING you falsely claim lol
but please continue to make stuff up
 
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yes you are, there are people on this very board that label themselves progressive and dont do ANYTHING you falsely claim lol
but please continue to make stuff up

J - I don't see your posts so why do you keep addressing me?

I have no problem debating progressives but just progressives not as extreme and as bias as you.
 
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I can agree with you there but I don't think they hate anyone - they just believe they're better then everyone and IMO, that is an epic personality flaw that has nothing to do with politics generally...

I don't think they hate anyone. I generally think that intolerance of others differences is a sign of insecurity and that insecurity will sometimes generate hateful behavior.

However, I do believe progressives believe they're better than anyone else for "embracing" homosexual marriage, where as I just don't give a **** who is gay.... Just as long as another man doesn't try to "hit on me" I could care less.
I think this is a common misunderstanding. I don't judge anyone for not "embracing". That's no one's business but their own and I certainly have no right to tell anyone what they should or should not embrace. I do struggle with those who want to take that a step further and deny them equal treatment.

I don't even know Helen Page - why the hell should I care about her sexuality?
While you have no obligation to care about Helen Page or her sexuality I think we all benefit when we promote equality for everyone. There before the grace of God...ya know? What if by some fluke you end up in an oppressed class someday. Wouldn't you protest? Wouldn't you be thankful you lived in a country where you would not be denied equal treatment because of it?
 
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You do know that 'ginger' is a deragatory slur only to be used by redheads when speaking in terms of other redheads, right? I mean would you at least support civil unions for us?


I am so sick of the war on redheads around here lately, I am sorry my red hair offends you but I was just born that way.







:lol:

I love redheads, almost as much as blondes. I'm sorry abut the ginger slang, I didn't know it was offensive.
 
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I don't think they hate anyone. I generally think that intolerance of others differences is a sign of insecurity and that insecurity will sometimes generate hateful behavior.


I think this is a common misunderstanding. I don't judge anyone for not "embracing". That's no one's business but their own and I certainly have no right to tell anyone what they should or should not embrace. I do struggle with those who want to take that a step further and deny them equal treatment.


While you have no obligation to care about Helen Page or her sexuality I think we all benefit when we promote equality for everyone. There before the grace of God...ya know? What if by some fluke you end up in an oppressed class someday. Wouldn't you protest? Wouldn't you be thankful you lived in a country where you would not be denied equal treatment because of it?

You basically said that "tolerance" was a factor in your judgment....

Well, Isn't tolerance a 2-way street or just an authoritarian conception?
 
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1.)J - I don't see your posts
2.)so why do you keep addressing me?
3.)I have no problem debating progressives but just progressives not as extreme and as bias as you.

1.)weird yet you just quoted me lol
2.) everytime i read a post that i like, agree with, disagree with etc i will post i want.

In the case of your posts most times its just me pointing out that factual falsehoods or hypocrisy of them or pure entertainment of them. This will never stop. I will continue to expose your posts or any posts i want. lol

3.) you have proved repeatedly you dont know what the word is, what it means and who is one or isnt one

if you think im a progressive and biased simply prove it, use facts and prove it.

You cant and wont be able to. Your posts will fail again as they always do when they go against mine.

The best part is this has nothing to do with "me" typically your posts fail against most posters here because FACTS prove them wrong.

if this bothers you the solution is simple, change your posting style

go for facts, accuracy, less emotion and meltdowns, less anger, less irrational judgments, stereotypes and fallacies and youll have more success.

Let me know if i can help you any further
 
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You basically said that "tolerance" was a factor in your judgment....

Well, Isn't tolerance a 2-way street or just an authoritarian conception?

I'm not sure what you are saying? Yes, tolerance is a two way street. Tolerance in thought and tolerance of actions are different though. I am willing to tolerate what I may consider narrow minded thinking but I am less willing to tolerate taking action on that thinking that interferes with the freedom of others to live as they chose. Tolerance is not a blank check.
 
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You basically said that "tolerance" was a factor in your judgment....

Well, Isn't tolerance a 2-way street or just an authoritarian conception?

of course tolerance is a two way street but one sides doesn't want tolerance.

One side whants to deny others equal rights.
One side wants others to have LESS rights then they do and be treated as lessers.

pointing this fact out isnt intolerance its just reality.

The KKK is allowed to say blacks are inferior, they are allowed to teach it, preach it, believe it. The tolerance in this country allows them to do that along with thier rights and freedoms.

But pointing out the fact they are racist bigots and hypocrites because they want blacks treated as lessers isnt intolerance its factual.

Same with gays :shrug:
 
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I'm not sure what you are saying? Yes, tolerance is a two way street. Tolerance in thought and tolerance of actions are different though. I am willing to tolerate what I may consider narrow minded thinking but I am not willing to tolerate interfering with the freedom of others to live as they chose because of that thinking. Tolerance is not a blank check.

ding ding ding ding

and the truth shall set you free
 
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yeah, it's right up there with "you don't like homosexuals, hence you must be secretly gay"

That is only for "wide stanced" gay Republicans.
 
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Well then why do progressives continue to call non-progressives, racists, homophobes, war on woman, war on blacks etc...

I'm not generalizing or making anything up - progressives are the ones making outlandish accusations without any evidence to support their claims.

What you are making up is that there is no evidence for those claims.
 
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1.)weird yet you just quoted me lol
2.) everytime i read a post that i like, agree with, disagree with etc i will post i want.

In the case of your posts most times its just me pointing out that factual falsehoods or hypocrisy of them or pure entertainment of them. This will never stop. I will continue to expose your posts or any posts i want. lol

3.) you have proved repeatedly you dont know what the word is, what it means and who is one or isnt one

if you think im a progressive and biased simply prove it, use facts and prove it.

You cant and wont be able to. Your posts will fail again as they always do when they go against mine.

The best part is this has nothing to do with "me" typically your posts fail against most posters here because FACTS prove them wrong.

if this bothers you the solution is simple, change your posting style

go for facts, accuracy, less emotion and meltdowns, less anger, less irrational judgments, stereotypes and fallacies and youll have more success.

Let me know if i can help you any further

IF I choose to see your post I can...

I point out a factual world and you point out a world that you believe exists due to your politics.

You see the world in a one-dimensional perspective - someone always hates someone because they're gay, black, Muslim, Mexican etc...... The world doesn't work that way - at least society in the United States. Sure maybe in Africa or Columbia or parts of Mexico with the cartels and the vigilantism...

It kinda disgusts me but..... Only you can change that man.
 
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