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Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Make assumptions? stereotype?

I didn't invent the word or champion the idea of collectivism - a word many progressives enjoy using...

Sure I stereotype - especially when it's your goal to be a collectivist nation and not a nation of individuals.
That's MY goal huh? Can you prove that assertion, or is that just another in your long, long, long list of assumptions?
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

There is nothing "flimsy" about Sheppard and the evidence that points to the fact he was a drug dealer himself or was involved in the drug trade.

Also, if these other cases mentioned are so tragic then why you focus all your attention on skin color and sexuality?

Who says I do? What I don't do is change the subject when skin color and/or sexuality are the thread topic, like you seem hellbent on doing. There's not much to comment about on DP regarding bullying of fat kids or smart kids. You're constructing a very badly made strawman here.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

What front-page, tear-filled interview?

1. I highly doubt that Ellen Page's coming out made the front page of anything except maybe her hometown paper.

2. There was no "interview." It was a speech at a convention for people who work with LGBTQ youth. It got picked up by the 24/7 news networks and obviously entertainment websites ... other than that, it barely registered a blip. Looking at CNN.com right now, it's well down on the home page and will very likely to get bumped completely off in the morning. It's not on the New York Times home page. It's not on MSNBC's. There hasn't been nearly the media presence that people have been claiming on this thread.
I stand corrected. Thank you for clarifying.

But, that said, I do still think that the media and public, in general, make too big of a deal of celebrities coming out. Granted, the amount of attention it garners is waning as it becomes more common, but it does still seem to grab a bigger piece of the news cycle that, in my own personal opinion, it warrants.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Make assumptions? stereotype?

I didn't invent the word or champion the idea of collectivism - a word many progressives enjoy using...

Sure I stereotype - especially when it's your goal to be a collectivist nation and not a nation of individuals, a nation or brand where the theory is that the group defeats the individual.

Bloody hell, nobody in this thread is arguing for "collectivism." Are you really going to turn this into yet another one of your anti-"progressive" rants where you shriek at anyone you perceive as a "progressive" for disagreeing with you?
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

What front-page, tear-filled interview?

1. I highly doubt that Ellen Page's coming out made the front page of anything except maybe her hometown paper.

2. There was no "interview." It was a speech at a convention for people who work with LGBTQ youth. It got picked up by the 24/7 news networks and obviously entertainment websites ... other than that, it barely registered a blip. Looking at CNN.com right now, it's well down on the home page and will very likely to get bumped completely off in the morning. It's not on the New York Times home page. It's not on MSNBC's. There hasn't been nearly the media presence that people have been claiming on this thread.

I swear these guys are so full of fear about someone else and their sexuality. Unbelievable.

Don't worry bigots, Ellen is not going to make you gay. Unless you already are, and are in terrified denial of it...LOL
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

I stand corrected. Thank you for clarifying.

But, that said, I do still think that the media and public, in general, make too big of a deal of celebrities coming out. Granted, the amount of attention it garners is waning as it becomes more common, but it does still seem to grab a bigger piece of the news cycle that, in my own personal opinion, it warrants.

Considering that she made her speech on a Friday, that's probably one reason it got more attention that it otherwise would have. It was a slow news day.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

That's MY goal huh? Can you prove that assertion, or is that just another in your long, long, long list of assumptions?

Well, you're doing a lot of defending here and attempting to throw me under the bus so I can only assume you're extremely opposed to my logical position and take a more emotional approach to this situation as every progressive does.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Well, you're doing a lot of defending here and attempting to throw me under the bus so I can only assume you're extremely opposed to my logical position and take a more emotional approach to this situation as every progressive does.
There, I highlighted the only word in that entire sentence that matters, for it is the word that perfectly describes what have been doing on here.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Well, you're doing a lot of defending here and attempting to throw me under the bus so I can only assume you're extremely opposed to my logical position and take a more emotional approach to this situation as every progressive does.

Your "logical position," as far as I can tell, is that teh homoz are trying to use gay marriage to turn the U.S. in North Korea, which is breathtakingly stupid.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Jesus ****ing Christ, nobody in this thread is arguing for "collectivism." Are you really going to turn this into yet another one of your anti-"progressive" rants where you shriek at anyone you perceive as a "progressive" for disagreeing with you?

You don't have to argue for "collectivism" because you're already party of the cult...

It's not only this issue - it's any issue - the same people taking your side will do the same on any issue because you're "collectivists."

You all share the same politics - there is no sway from the status quo in your ideologies.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

You don't have to argue for "collectivism" because you're already party of the cult...

It's not only this issue - it's any issue - the same people taking your side will do the same on any issue because you're "collectivists."

You all share the same politics - there is no sway from the status quo in your ideologies.

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re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Shapard wasn't killed because he was gay.

He was the vitcim of a brutal crime commited by sadistic drug addicts. His orientation was incidental.

On this one, actually, we are never going to get anywhere. There is not enough evidence to determine true motive, so it is just speculation. That I can concede.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

There, I highlighted the only word in that entire sentence that matters, for it is the word that perfectly describes what have been doing on here.

"Assume" is a progressives escape door.

Can you prove I'm lying? can you prove I'm telling the truth? no you cant for either so you enjoy using words like "assume" because that word cant be proven or disprove.

"Assume" is like "theories" little grammatical cousin.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

On this one, actually, we are never going to get anywhere. There is not enough evidence to determine true motive, so it is just speculation. That I can concede.

In short the evidence is overwhelming he was a drug dealer but you would still like to believe he was murdered because he was gay.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

"Assume" is a progressives escape door.

Can you prove I'm lying? can you prove I'm telling the truth? no you cant for either so you enjoy using words like "assume" because that word cant be proven or disprove.

"Assume" is like "theories" little grammatical cousin.
You ADMITTED that you make assumptions. Jesus, not only do you seem to lack reading skills but you can't even recall what you, yourself, have said.
 
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I know I'm right when progressives start posting pictures in frustration...

It's hard to be right when you're not making any sense. Yes, because other people who are not you agree on a subject, it's "collectivism." Long live Stalin.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

In short the evidence is overwhelming he was a drug dealer but you would still like to believe he was murdered because he was gay.

Show me the evidence that you says is overwhelming.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Your "logical position," as far as I can tell, is that teh homoz are trying to use gay marriage to turn the U.S. in North Korea, which is breathtakingly stupid.

No, I find it extremely disturbing that you pick and choose who are victims and who aren't based on progressive politics...

What really pisses me off is how you progressives decide who it's ok to pick on and who it's wrong to pick on.

In short you're all collectivists weather you like it or not - because you all play "follow the leader" - and that leader decides what groups are to be targeted and what groups should get compassionate treatment.

It disgusts me to no extent how someone could fall for the "do as a say not as I do trick" and millions nod and obey their dear leader and his advocates...

Be a man - make your own decisions - don't let a political party make them for you, by making some ideas fashionable and others degrading (for political reasons).
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

No, I find it extremely disturbing that you pick and choose who are victims and who aren't based on progressive politics...

What really pisses me off is how you progressives decide who it's ok to pick on and who it's wrong to pick on.

In short you're all collectivists weather you like it or not - because you all play "follow the leader" - and that leader decides what groups are to be targeted and what groups should get compassionate treatment.

It disgusts me to no extent how someone could fall for the "do as a say not as I do trick" and millions nod and obey their dear leader and his advocates...

Be a man - make your own decisions - don't let a political party make them for you, by making some ideas fashionable and others degrading (for political reasons).

Why do you continue to insist I'm saying or doing things I never said or did? At no point did I say that victimizing anyone was OK. You're simply making things up to go off on another half-cocked rant.

Back to ignore you go. This is not worth my time.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

I must say, you've got some pretty good stuff in this thread.
Thanks for the laughs .
Your "logical position," as far as I can tell, is that teh homoz are trying to use gay marriage to turn the U.S. in North Korea, which is breathtakingly stupid.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Show me the evidence that you says is overwhelming.

That he was a drug dealer, or was killed over drugs or that he was killed because he was gay?

I believe a gentlemen already posted all three theories, but I doubt you bothered to read that because it didn't fit what you wanted to believe.

So since it has already been posted, and I'm not your ****ing professor or muse --- you will have to learn something you have never done ever in your life - do your own leg work.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

So since it has already been posted, and I'm not your ****ing professor or muse --- you will have to learn something you have never done ever in your life - do your own leg work.
Oh, if you knew anything about me, you would know how hilarious that assertion is. :lamo


And for the record, if you have to clarify what I meant, that just proves to me that you will never have the intellectual chops to BE a professor, let alone mine. You said the evidence is overwhelming that he was a drug dealer and killed because of it. Show me that evidence.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

I say good for her. Doesn't influence my life, but maybe she can help show the self-hating gay youth that life goes on and is relatively normal whether or not you suck a dong or double click your girlfriend's mouse. Let them know that there is no reason to hate yourself just because some people suffer from the ick factor or some silly fool believes in a pervert in the sky who watches you do the nasty and waggles his finger from on high.
 
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