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Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

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I love the anger, ignorance, bigotry, fear and hatred in this thread, it just proves the point more and more and more, ITS AWESOME!
 

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re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Koros said:
Where did I cry over anyone, or say that anyone deserves special treatment? Projecting a bit, are you?

There is NO bias in acknowledging when a gay person comes out but not caring when a straight person admits that they are straight. The reason for that is that the former requires a conscious decision to tell others because the latter is an assumption made about everyone. Did you, as a straight men, ever have a time in your life when everyone around you just ASSUMED you were gay?

Now, should people care who is gay or who isn't? No, they shouldn't. But, the fact remains that, in our society, being a member of a minority comes with certain challenges to be overcome. It shouldn't be this way, but it is. And being gay comes with the undeniable fact that people assume you are not gay until you tell them otherwise. In some ways, being gay is harder than being a racial minority. When a child is born, the world knows the child's race. But, regardless of race, there is an assumption of heterosexuality placed upon that child until they, if they ever decide to, come out and tell the world how wrong those assumptions are.

Seriously, how do you not get this?
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I largely agree wit this. However, when a lot of gays and lesbians come out, most people that know them knew they were gay almost all their life. With at least half the gays and lesbians I know, its pretty obvious they are gay. I mean Hellen Keller could see it. With some gay guys coming out is more of a formality.
 
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Bob Blaylock said:
Well, either that, or you've just demonstrated how little you understand about human genetics. and natural selection.
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Then, please, Mr. Geneticist. Enlighten me on just where I went wrong.
 
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SouthernDemocrat said:
I largely agree wit this. However, when a lot of gays and lesbians come out, most people that know them knew they were gay almost all their life. With at least half the gays and lesbians I know, its pretty obvious they are gay. I mean Hellen Keller could see it. With some gay guys coming out is more of a formality.
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Yes, that is true for some people. However, by and large, even those people have gone through parts of their lives in which there was an assumed heterosexuality about them.
 
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Koros said:
Where did I cry over anyone, or say that anyone deserves special treatment? Projecting a bit, are you?

There is NO bias in acknowledging when a gay person comes out but not caring when a straight person admits that they are straight. The reason for that is that the former requires a conscious decision to tell others because the latter is an assumption made about everyone. Did you, as a straight men, ever have a time in your life when everyone around you just ASSUMED you were gay?

Now, should people care who is gay or who isn't? No, they shouldn't. But, the fact remains that, in our society, being a member of a minority comes with certain challenges to be overcome. It shouldn't be this way, but it is. And being gay comes with the undeniable fact that people assume you are not gay until you tell them otherwise. In some ways, being gay is harder than being a racial minority. When a child is born, the world knows the child's race. But, regardless of race, there is an assumption of heterosexuality placed upon that child until they, if they ever decide to, come out and tell the world how wrong those assumptions are.

Seriously, how do you not get this?
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Well you seem to believe it's a huge deal...

I got news for you - I know plenty of gay people who are regular people who just like to stick their junk in different holes than man of us do, Guess what? they're perfectly normal people you would never even suspect were gay - nor do they make it their mission in life to make their sexuality the forefront of their life... HOWEVER YOU DO!

You see - progressives have nothing better to do in life than point out differences between people...

You see - you automatically assume all white non-progressives hate gays and minorities - when that if further from the truth.

The truth is that when a person makes their sexuality or race the focal point of their being - that pisses people off...

IT just seems progressives just embrace differences as a hobby or because they're bored.
 
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Koros said:
Given that every single homosexual on the planet came from heterosexual parents, I think your argument has been proven to be patently false.
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He didn't even imply that so I don't know where the **** that came from.

Also, why would two gay parents procreate? it seems like a contradiction to me.
 
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vesper said:
Sure they do. There are several things that make straight people different that can result in being ridiculed and even physically abused by another group. Color, religion, physical features like bucked teeth, being fat or super skinny, even the sharpest pencils in the box can be ridiculed over their intellect by the dumb and ignorant.
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Yeah, you literally just proved my point.
 
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vesper said:
Sure they do. There are several things that make straight people different that can result in being ridiculed and even physically abused by another group. Color, religion, physical features like bucked teeth, being fat or super skinny, even the sharpest pencils in the box can be ridiculed over their intellect by the dumb and ignorant.
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Waitaminnit. Those qualities are not limited to straight people. Straight people aren't ridiculed or assaulted for being straight.
 
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Your Star said:
Yeah, you literally just proved my point.
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How so Star? Is the ridicule a straight person gets over their religious beliefs any worse than a gay person gets from some because they are gay? Is the ridicule a skinny or fat straight person gets any less severe than a gay person? The answer is no.
 
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Mr.Nick said:
Well you seem to believe it's a huge deal...
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Prove that I believe that. I merely tried to correct your incorrect assertions.

Mr.Nick said:
I got news for you - I know plenty of gay people who are regular people who just like to stick their junk in different holes than man of us do, Guess what? they're perfectly normal people you would never even suspect were gay - nor do they make it their mission in life to make their sexuality the forefront of their life... HOWEVER YOU DO!
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Prove that I do that. You know nothing about my life.

Mr.Nick said:
You see - progressives have nothing better to do in life than point out differences between people...
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I'm not a progressive, but thanks for this non sequitur.

Mr.Nick said:
You see - you automatically assume all white non-progressives hate gays and minorities - when that if further from the truth.
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Reading isn't your strong suit, is it? Prove to me that I think anything of the sort.

Mr.Nick said:
The truth is that when a person makes their sexuality or race the focal point of their being - that pisses people off...
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Yes, it does. I agree. But, still, I'm not sure what this has to do with anything.

Mr.Nick said:
IT just seems progressives just embrace differences as a hobby or because they're bored.
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You seem to have a lot to say about "progressives." Though, for the life of me, I can't understand why.
 
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vesper said:
How so Star? Is the ridicule a straight person gets over their religious beliefs any worse than a gay person. Is the ridicule a skinny or fat straight person gets any less severe than a gay person? The answer is no.
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Yeah, remember that time a kid was tied to a fence post and pistol-whipped to death because he was fat? Me either.
 
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Koros said:
You seem to have a lot to say about "progressives." Though, for the life of me, I can't understand why.
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There are some posters here who will label you a "progressive" simply for disagreeing with them.
 
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vesper said:
How so Star? Is the ridicule a straight person gets over their religious beliefs any worse than a gay person gets from some because they are gay? Is the ridicule a skinny or fat straight person gets any less severe than a gay person? The answer is no.
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My point is that heterosexual people don't get ridiculed because of their sexuality. Which you said you pointed out.
 
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Kobie said:
Waitaminnit. Those qualities are not limited to straight people. Straight people aren't ridiculed or assaulted for being straight.
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Yet you act like gays are being assaulted and ridiculed at an epidemic rate..

Give me examples...

Gays are picked on no more than fat people or short people, or even overly intelligent people.

Why the **** aren't you defending them? oh yeah because they're not listed in your progressive playbook.
 
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Kobie said:
There are some posters here who will label you a "progressive" simply for disagreeing with them.
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So I am seeing. But, that shouldn't surprise me. I get it from both sides. Among my highly conservative family, I'm considered the bleeding-heart liberal. Among my highly liberal friends, I'm the heartless conservative....all because I disagree with one side or the other.
 
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Kobie said:
Yeah, remember that time a kid was tied to a fence post and pistol-whipped to death because he was fat? Me either.
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Moreover the fatties anymore are in the majority.
 
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Kobie said:
Yeah, remember that time a kid was tied to a fence post and pistol-whipped to death because he was fat? Me either.
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Hasn't been done to a gay person for being gay that I know of either
 
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Mr.Nick said:
Yet you act like gays are being assaulted and ridiculed at an epidemic rate..

Give me examples...

Gays are picked on no more than fat people or short people, or even overly intelligent people.

Why the **** aren't you defending them? oh yeah because they're not listed in your progressive playbook.
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No, genius, because they're not what the thread is about. I'm against bullying of all sorts. You're the one trying to change the subject.

Also, there's not people trying to prevent fat people from getting married, or trying to keep it legal to fire someone for being too smart. Sorry, but in some ways gay people do have it worse.

Soupnazi630 said:
Hasn't been done to a gay person for being gay that I know of either
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Matthew Shepard.
 
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Your Star said:
My point is that heterosexual people don't get ridiculed because of their sexuality. Which you said you pointed out.
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Who cares? straight people get ridiculed and bullied just as much - maybe not for their sexual orientation but because of their looks, weight, intelligence or maybe because they're poor to just name a few examples - so what makes sexuality such a gem stone in this debate of ridicule?
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Mr.Nick said:
Well you seem to believe it's a huge deal...

I got news for you - I know plenty of gay people who are regular people who just like to stick their junk in different holes than man of us do, Guess what? they're perfectly normal people you would never even suspect were gay - nor do they make it their mission in life to make their sexuality the forefront of their life... HOWEVER YOU DO!

You see - progressives have nothing better to do in life than point out differences between people...

You see - you automatically assume all white non-progressives hate gays and minorities - when that if further from the truth.

The truth is that when a person makes their sexuality or race the focal point of their being - that pisses people off...

IT just seems progressives just embrace differences as a hobby or because they're bored.
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this reminds me of another poster's post who call everybody a left wing friend if they dont agree exactly.

Can you tell us what makes him factually a progressive or what progressives as a group are/want


the quickest way to not be taken seriously is to make a post that regurgitates hyperbolic, partisan, inane, stereotypical rhetoric like this and try to paint groups with the same brush.
Its intellectually dishonest, topically uneducated, transparent and reeks of desperation.

Maybe try to make a post that simply focuses on facts or even accurate information that can be backed up by logic instead of just attacking posters and your false assertions of what they stand for or groups stand for. This will prevent your posts from failing so often and being destroyed by logic.
 
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Kobie said:
No, genius, because they're not what the thread is about. I'm against bullying of all sorts. You're the one trying to change the subject.

Also, there's not people trying to prevent fat people from getting married, or trying to keep it legal to fire someone for being too smart. Sorry, but in some ways gay people do have it worse.



Matthew Shepard.
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Guess what "the dude" I'm not preventing anyone from doing anything - I'm merely judging your shallowness as an individual, and how you believe certain ideas to bully someone outweigh others..

And don't even pretend you don't because EVERY PROGRESSIVE thinks the same and adheres to the same ideas....You're no more unique than Janeane Garofalo, Lady Gaga or et al...
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Mr.Nick said:
Who cares? straight people get ridiculed and bullied just as much - maybe not for their sexual orientation but because of their looks, weight, intelligence or maybe because they're poor to just name a few examples - so what makes sexuality such a gem stone in this debate of ridicule?
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then that defeats the whole point does it not
gay people get ridicule for those SAME things LMAO this about sexual orientation

doesnt make it a gem stone it is an issue where people are being denied equal rights and coming forward can lose them jobs family and friends

your strawman complete fails, but please feel free to make a post with more fantasy in it
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Koros said:
Given that every single homosexual on the planet came from heterosexual parents, I think your argument has been proven to be patently false.
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Bob Blaylock said:
Well, either that, or you've just demonstrated how little you understand about human genetics. and natural selection.
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Koros said:
Then, please, Mr. Geneticist. Enlighten me on just where I went wrong.
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Start here…

The thing to understand is that natural selection tends to weed out traits that are not conducive to the continued existence of a species. But it's not a perfect or complete process. If it were, then there would be no solid black peppered Moths, nor would there be any human homosexuals (assuming a purely-genetic cause for homosexuality).

Also, due to the diploid nature of animal cells (including human) deleterious traits are more able to persist than they would in a strictly haploid form of life.
 
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Mr.Nick said:
Guess what "the dude" I'm not preventing anyone from doing anything - I'm merely judging your shallowness as an individual, and how you believe certain ideas to bully someone outweigh others..
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When did I claim to believe that? How about you stop inventing positions for people in your head, mkay?

Mr.Nick said:
And don't even pretend you don't because EVERY PROGRESSIVE thinks the same and adheres to the same ideas....You're no more unique than Janeane Garofalo, Lady Gaga or et al...
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I don't think you know what a progressive is. Two hints: 1. I'm not a progressive, and 2. "progressive" does not mean "someone Mr. Nick doesn't like."
 
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