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Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

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Conservative said:
Homosexuals have the same rights as I have, to marry any member of the opposite sex that will have them
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"Blacks have the same rights as I have, to marry any member of their own race that will have them"
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

CriticalThought said:
Children cannot consent. Animals cannot consent. Is that really hard for you to understand? It does not matter if a person is attracted to them if they cannot consent. Seems pretty common sense to me.
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I fully understand that. However, it has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not homosexuality is a mental disorder.

All the conditions I mentioned involve sexual attraction to other than sexually developed members of the opposite sex. However, the mental health community treats homosexuality different from every other such case. It is the only example of such attraction that is considered normal and not deviant, a mental illness.

Your argument made it sound like the ability to consent was the only factor that should be considered when classifying such instances as normal or deviant. Ability to consent has absolutely nothing to do with it.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Conservative said:
Yep, call me a Christian bigot because I believe in the rule of law and homosexuality remaining private. I have no problem with that title. You want to marry someone of the same sex or have sex with your dog, that is your choice, have at it and if you feel that strong about it, get the law changed in your state.
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I don't have to be black to want equal rights for african americans, just like I don't need to be gay to support equal rights for them. Yes, you are a bigot if you like having rights that you want to deny others. That's a hateful thing to do, and the exact opposite of what Jesus taught.

Now, stop crying because people didn't let bigots ruin someone's evening.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Conservative said:
Yep, call me a Christian bigot because I believe in the rule of law and homosexuality remaining private. I have no problem with that title. You want to marry someone of the same sex or have sex with your dog, that is your choice, have at it and if you feel that strong about it, get the law changed in your state.
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That's a well bigoted comparison.
 
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Jetboogieman said:
"Blacks have the same rights as I have, to marry any member of their own race that will have them"
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Maybe in your country but not this one. Interracial marriage is legal in the U.S.
 
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Conservative said:
Maybe in your country but not this one. Interracial marriage is legal in the U.S.
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Really? You didn't get it??
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Conservative said:
Wow, I am so proud of her, she joins three percent of the population and gets touted as a heroine. Why don't you people just STFU and stop flaunting your sexual activity? This is unbelievable and no wonder it is a polarizing issue. Keep your sexual activity to yourself. I am so sick and tired of this issue and people who "come out" being treated as someone special. With all the problems facing this country some people have interesting priorities and a different definition of what is important and worthy of hero status. You people are something else
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Conservative said:
I don't give a damn whether homosexuals shutup or not, just don't publicize it. I am quite tired of all this bs of an issue that truly is irrelevant. It is all about someone trying to equate their own personal choice into a civil right. Homosexuals have the same rights as I have, to marry any member of the opposite sex that will have them and if they don't like it get the law changed in the states with I believe 12 doing just that. You want to be a homosexual and get married to a member of the same sex then move to a state that allows it.

Why would you even mention suicide and homosexuality in the same sentence?
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to the underlined:Re-read. It is very obvious. Some are not doing it for publicity, some are encouraging others to accept themselves despite all the other hateful people calling them an abomination.
 
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MACS-24 said:
to the underlined:Re-read. It is very obvious. Some are not doing it for publicity, some are encouraging others to accept themselves despite all the other hateful people calling them an abomination.
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Do you have statistics on suicide by homosexuals?
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Conservative said:
Your opinion noted. If believing in the rule of law is bigoted thank you.
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Comparing gay sex with bestiality is bigoted. It's one step from flat-out calling gays subhuman.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Conservative said:
Maybe in your country but not this one. Interracial marriage is legal in the U.S.
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You're using the same argument racists made in the 50's just adjusted for homosexuals.

The comparison stands.

You're on the wrong side of history... and it will not view you in a positive light.
 
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Jetboogieman said:
You're using the same argument racists made in the 50's just adjusted for homosexuals.

The comparison stands.

You're on the wrong side of history... and it will not view you in a positive light.
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No it doesn't at all, marriage is common law controlled by the states, has nothing to do with race. You aren't going to be happy with the definition of marriage in the Constitution but glad to see I wasn't wrong about your priorities
 
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ecofarm said:
Comparing gay sex with bestiality is bigoted. It's one step from flat-out calling gays subhuman.
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I made a statement no comparison at all. Who or what you have sex with is your opinion, you feel strongly enough about it, get the law changed
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Conservative said:
Race is defined in the Constitution. You want marriage defined there as well? Be careful what you ask for
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Whatever, the Federal Marriage Amendment has gone the way of the dinosaurs.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Conservative said:
Do you have statistics on suicide by homosexuals?
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Does numbers really matter? What number would be acceptable to you - 1?
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Conservative said:
I made a statement no comparison at all. Who or what you have sex with is your opinion, you feel strongly enough about it, get the law changed
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Your choice of examples is a clear comparison. You are listing things you can tolerate people engaging in privately. Personally, I think it's sick as **** for someone to be ok with bestiality but I suppose everyone has weird fantasies, so I will not judge you.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Conservative said:
No it doesn't at all, marriage is common law controlled by the states, has nothing to do with race.
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BUT IT DID

And that's the point.

The arguments being made against gay marriage and the arguments once made against interracial marriage are startlingly similar and will be viewed in the same negative light as history progresses.

You can make all the excuses you want, but you cannot tell me you're for freedom, limited government and individual liberty if you think the banning of gay marriage is a legitimate use of governments authority.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

MACS-24 said:
Does numbers really matter? What number would be acceptable to you - 1?
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Probably a number closer to suicide rates of heterosexuals
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

ecofarm said:
Your choice of examples is a clear comparison. You are listing things you can tolerate people engaging in privately. Personally, I think it's sick as **** for someone to be ok with bestiality but I suppose everyone has weird fantasies, so I will not judge you.
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Some people support bestiality, why would you deny them their rights? You want your rights protected but not theirs? You don't get it, we are a nation of laws. You don't like the laws get them changed.
 
re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

Conservative said:
Probably a number closer to suicide rates of heterosexuals
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Oh, now your all for equality.

Any suicide is bad. Gay or straight. That's the whole point to you complaining "all the other problems facing this country" paraphrasing.
 
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