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Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]
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re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]
I really couldn't say what good this did for Ellen Page personally -- only she can know that. More practically, it's good because with every person who comes out it becomes more apparent that gays are painfully...boringly...normal.
I really couldn't say what good this did for Ellen Page personally -- only she can know that. More practically, it's good because with every person who comes out it becomes more apparent that gays are painfully...boringly...normal.
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re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]
I don't blame her for announcing this, I guess she wanted to get it out somehow. It's hard for her to do it without looking like a self-important jerk. Either that or don't say anything. There really is no in-between. With the media overload that we have, it's going to be a headline somewhere, and many people like me will sit there and say, "Jeez, not this crap again." But, it is what it is.
I don't blame her for announcing this, I guess she wanted to get it out somehow. It's hard for her to do it without looking like a self-important jerk. Either that or don't say anything. There really is no in-between. With the media overload that we have, it's going to be a headline somewhere, and many people like me will sit there and say, "Jeez, not this crap again." But, it is what it is.
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re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]
I haven't read the whole study, just the summery of it on Wikipedia and another site. I however have a question. She points to there being no developmental issues or other psychological issues as proof. However, the same test results could also "prove" that depression, sociopathy and others, are also not mental issues by her standards. The lack of additional issues does not prove or disprove whether something is a mental disorder.
I haven't read the whole study, just the summery of it on Wikipedia and another site. I however have a question. She points to there being no developmental issues or other psychological issues as proof. However, the same test results could also "prove" that depression, sociopathy and others, are also not mental issues by her standards. The lack of additional issues does not prove or disprove whether something is a mental disorder.
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re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]
In other words, you are unable to answer the questions posed.
In other words, you are unable to answer the questions posed.
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re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]
So you are saying it is normal for a person to be sexually attracted to children, animals, inanimate objects, whatever, as long as who/what is desired is able to consent? The ability to consent determines normality? Rather a strange idea to me.
So you are saying it is normal for a person to be sexually attracted to children, animals, inanimate objects, whatever, as long as who/what is desired is able to consent? The ability to consent determines normality? Rather a strange idea to me.
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re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]
Wow, I am so proud of her, she joins three percent of the population and gets touted as a heroine. Why don't you people just STFU and stop flaunting your sexual activity? This is unbelievable and no wonder it is a polarizing issue. Keep your sexual activity to yourself. I am so sick and tired of this issue and people who "come out" being treated as someone special. With all the problems facing this country some people have interesting priorities and a different definition of what is important and worthy of hero status. You people are something else
Wow, I am so proud of her, she joins three percent of the population and gets touted as a heroine. Why don't you people just STFU and stop flaunting your sexual activity? This is unbelievable and no wonder it is a polarizing issue. Keep your sexual activity to yourself. I am so sick and tired of this issue and people who "come out" being treated as someone special. With all the problems facing this country some people have interesting priorities and a different definition of what is important and worthy of hero status. You people are something else
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re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]
No, it's incapable. Cognitive dissonance is frightening to authoritarians.
No, it's incapable. Cognitive dissonance is frightening to authoritarians.
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re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]
I think I used the words "To Me" and "I" often enough. I never assume anyone's sexual orientation anymore. So FOR ME, it's equivalent. For the person coming out, it's different of course.
I think I used the words "To Me" and "I" often enough. I never assume anyone's sexual orientation anymore. So FOR ME, it's equivalent. For the person coming out, it's different of course.
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re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]
I'm not disagreeing with you. But my comments were my personal perception of one's sexual orientation and indication thereof. It had nothing to do with anyone elses or the perception or feelings of the person coming out.
I'm not disagreeing with you. But my comments were my personal perception of one's sexual orientation and indication thereof. It had nothing to do with anyone elses or the perception or feelings of the person coming out.
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re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]
It's YOUR opinion of sin. My religion does not consider it a sin, therefore for me, your point is irrelevant.
It's YOUR opinion of sin. My religion does not consider it a sin, therefore for me, your point is irrelevant.
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re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]
No, it's God's view of sin which is absolute. All other beliefs and religions, when contrasted with truth, are simply just wrong. God doesn't judge sin based on what Digsbe, CaptainCourtesy, or what anyone else believes. He judges sin based on what He has set forth as absolute truth that we, as individuals, can either accept or reject.
No, it's God's view of sin which is absolute. All other beliefs and religions, when contrasted with truth, are simply just wrong. God doesn't judge sin based on what Digsbe, CaptainCourtesy, or what anyone else believes. He judges sin based on what He has set forth as absolute truth that we, as individuals, can either accept or reject.
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No, that's not what the study determined. What the study determined was that when assessing people with no psychological issues, one cannot tell the difference between someone who is heterosexual or someone who is homosexual. There is no inherent mental illness. If one were to do the same kinds of assessments on someone who is depressed verses someone who is not, those assessment tools would absolutely demonstrate differences.
No, that's not what the study determined. What the study determined was that when assessing people with no psychological issues, one cannot tell the difference between someone who is heterosexual or someone who is homosexual. There is no inherent mental illness. If one were to do the same kinds of assessments on someone who is depressed verses someone who is not, those assessment tools would absolutely demonstrate differences.
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re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]
Then don't comment. Real easy concept to grasp.
Then don't comment. Real easy concept to grasp.
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re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]
No, in other words your post was unintelligible.
No, in other words your post was unintelligible.
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re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]
Did God say this to you personally? Or have you interpreted your knowledge from a 2,000 year old book that was written in three different ancient languages and based on stories that were passed down orally?
Did God say this to you personally? Or have you interpreted your knowledge from a 2,000 year old book that was written in three different ancient languages and based on stories that were passed down orally?
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No, it's YOUR interpretation of God's view of sin. My religion's view is correct, and all others are simply wrong, since it is my religion that sets God's absolute view of sin.
Now, we know that morals are not absolute, but relative, but if you want to play the absolute game. you'll lose there, too, since MY religion is what is absolute.
No, it's YOUR interpretation of God's view of sin. My religion's view is correct, and all others are simply wrong, since it is my religion that sets God's absolute view of sin.
Now, we know that morals are not absolute, but relative, but if you want to play the absolute game. you'll lose there, too, since MY religion is what is absolute.
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re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]
Keep throwing it in my face and all over TV and I am going to comment. I don't give a damn what your sexual orientation is, quit flaunting it and quit acting like flaunting it is something to be celebrated.
Keep throwing it in my face and all over TV and I am going to comment. I don't give a damn what your sexual orientation is, quit flaunting it and quit acting like flaunting it is something to be celebrated.
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re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]
I have the same thoughts as you do CC.....course with the Entertainers the MS media does like to embellish over this coming out, Shine Down upon me.
But then I lately I keep saying. Why don't heterosexuals do the same. Same deal with all the actors and actresses. Make a Big Stink about it and get out there and have party time all over the place.
Let them come out and proclaiming such too. Let the LGTB community start hearing that all up in the Media like they do now with those that are just like them. I'll bet we will see the same attitudes. Who cares. Big Deal......this is not news. So what!
Do you think like half a decade down the road, that both would knock off the practice.
I have the same thoughts as you do CC.....course with the Entertainers the MS media does like to embellish over this coming out, Shine Down upon me.
But then I lately I keep saying. Why don't heterosexuals do the same. Same deal with all the actors and actresses. Make a Big Stink about it and get out there and have party time all over the place.
Let them come out and proclaiming such too. Let the LGTB community start hearing that all up in the Media like they do now with those that are just like them. I'll bet we will see the same attitudes. Who cares. Big Deal......this is not news. So what!
Do you think like half a decade down the road, that both would knock off the practice.
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It's plainly in the Bible. Do you not believe that God can preserve His Word? We still have the original languages to reference by and there has been nothing to the contrary that God now approves of homosexual sex or that the description of homosexual sex being sin was meant to be temporary for a purpose. The Bible is the Word of God, we have manuscripts of in the original languages that we translate by.
Let me explain it this way. We have laws set before us in this life as well. The law says that murder is illegal, stealing is illegal, rape is illegal and other things. Someone may personally believe that murdering someone else isn't wrong, that stealing isn't wrong, that rape isn't wrong and then commit those acts with the personally held opinion that to do so is not wrong or illegal. When they are brought to court their actions are judged based on the word of law, not based on their subjective opinions that may or may not be correct or incorrect. If someone murdered another person under the personal belief that the person deserved it, that it was justified or that as the stronger individual they had a right to kill someone else they will still be judged by the letter of that law and judged accordingly by the higher power (in this case, the legal system). Their personal beliefs and interpretations didn't alter the truth of the law that murder is illegal, wrong and will be punished.
The Bible is the ultimate authority for law, sin and the path to salvation as it is the Word of God. Someone can believe whatever they want, but if what they believe is in conflict with God's Word then what that person believes is wrong. Someone may believe that having an adulterous affair, homosexual sex, murder or any other thing that the Bible clearly says is an act of sin against God will be judged according to what is absolute, in that the person was absolutely wrong with God's Word being the absolute source of truth when it comes to "is this act right or wrong?" Say one person believes in reincarnation, one is an atheist and believes that when we die we just rot and another is a Christian that believes in God and judgement as described in the Bible. When they die, are their beliefs subjective? Does each individual go to a reality that they themselves constructed simply because they constructed it and truth is subjective to the person?
It's plainly in the Bible. Do you not believe that God can preserve His Word? We still have the original languages to reference by and there has been nothing to the contrary that God now approves of homosexual sex or that the description of homosexual sex being sin was meant to be temporary for a purpose. The Bible is the Word of God, we have manuscripts of in the original languages that we translate by.
Let me explain it this way. We have laws set before us in this life as well. The law says that murder is illegal, stealing is illegal, rape is illegal and other things. Someone may personally believe that murdering someone else isn't wrong, that stealing isn't wrong, that rape isn't wrong and then commit those acts with the personally held opinion that to do so is not wrong or illegal. When they are brought to court their actions are judged based on the word of law, not based on their subjective opinions that may or may not be correct or incorrect. If someone murdered another person under the personal belief that the person deserved it, that it was justified or that as the stronger individual they had a right to kill someone else they will still be judged by the letter of that law and judged accordingly by the higher power (in this case, the legal system). Their personal beliefs and interpretations didn't alter the truth of the law that murder is illegal, wrong and will be punished.
The Bible is the ultimate authority for law, sin and the path to salvation as it is the Word of God. Someone can believe whatever they want, but if what they believe is in conflict with God's Word then what that person believes is wrong. Someone may believe that having an adulterous affair, homosexual sex, murder or any other thing that the Bible clearly says is an act of sin against God will be judged according to what is absolute, in that the person was absolutely wrong with God's Word being the absolute source of truth when it comes to "is this act right or wrong?" Say one person believes in reincarnation, one is an atheist and believes that when we die we just rot and another is a Christian that believes in God and judgement as described in the Bible. When they die, are their beliefs subjective? Does each individual go to a reality that they themselves constructed simply because they constructed it and truth is subjective to the person?
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re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]
Why shouldn't he or any other comment? If they don't like it or if they do. What would it matter to you whether you like it or not. Deal with it!
Why shouldn't he or any other comment? If they don't like it or if they do. What would it matter to you whether you like it or not. Deal with it!
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I believe that humans wrote the Bible, who may I remind you have free will. We humans then edited it, and re-edited it a whole bunch of times and it's mostly filled with irrelevant stories and myths from the bronze age. Yes, their is a main truth I believe that is in the Bible, which boils down to basically not being a dick and loving people as yourself. Which certainly doesn't leave room for believing that homosexuality is a sin, because that is kind of dick thing to believe. It also doesn't leave room for believing that people that don't believe in the exact same thing you believe are going to hell, which I believe is totally made up by humans because to me a loving God would never do that. It's all about how you treat people and how you live.
I believe that humans wrote the Bible, who may I remind you have free will. We humans then edited it, and re-edited it a whole bunch of times and it's mostly filled with irrelevant stories and myths from the bronze age. Yes, their is a main truth I believe that is in the Bible, which boils down to basically not being a dick and loving people as yourself. Which certainly doesn't leave room for believing that homosexuality is a sin, because that is kind of dick thing to believe. It also doesn't leave room for believing that people that don't believe in the exact same thing you believe are going to hell, which I believe is totally made up by humans because to me a loving God would never do that. It's all about how you treat people and how you live.
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re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]
So you don't believe the Bible is the inspired word of God written through man by the Holy Spirit of God? The Bible claims that all scripture (Biblical cannon) is
The miracles, prophecies, and things pertaining to God and His power are true, not made up. Jesus did come to earth as God in human flesh, heal the sick and atone for sin. There is a heaven, there is a hell, there will be a judgement day.
You are free to believe what you want, but when contrasted to the absolute truth of the Inspired Word of God, you are wrong in the belief that everything but "be nice and don't be a dick" is all the Bible is valid for and that everything else is just interjected falsehoods.
So you don't believe the Bible is the inspired word of God written through man by the Holy Spirit of God? The Bible claims that all scripture (Biblical cannon) is
The miracles, prophecies, and things pertaining to God and His power are true, not made up. Jesus did come to earth as God in human flesh, heal the sick and atone for sin. There is a heaven, there is a hell, there will be a judgement day.
You are free to believe what you want, but when contrasted to the absolute truth of the Inspired Word of God, you are wrong in the belief that everything but "be nice and don't be a dick" is all the Bible is valid for and that everything else is just interjected falsehoods.
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re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]
I second this. Who cares what people do in their bedrooms.
I second this. Who cares what people do in their bedrooms.
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re: Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]
No they aren't, that is just the baloney they feed you to keep you guilty and in the "faith" Sin isn't a biological trait either, same sex attraction, most likely is. It certainly exists in several other species, and we all evolved into our species.
I wasn't born with a burden of guilt on my head because some 2000 year old book says so.
No they aren't, that is just the baloney they feed you to keep you guilty and in the "faith" Sin isn't a biological trait either, same sex attraction, most likely is. It certainly exists in several other species, and we all evolved into our species.
I wasn't born with a burden of guilt on my head because some 2000 year old book says so.