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Actress Ellen Page: "I am gay"[W:1222]

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Crovax said:
She got cast to play a 13 year old girl for a movie when she was 18, I would say its accurate even though irrelevant
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Which was eight years ago.
 
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opendebate said:
I agree with that sentiment. I also understand that it's easy to misunderstand people here because so many of us lump everyone together in tidy little buckets. Just my two cents, why feel slighted if it was not intended. Right?
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Right. But that is the point. No clear intent.
 
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molten_dragon said:
You mean the two movies last year that made barely $2.5 million worldwide between them? Or the big budget movie that she's likely to have only a bit part in, like she did in the original X-men trilogy?

No, I would guess those probably aren't enough for her.



Yes I do, not at all stupid. Do you really think it's that far-fetched that an actress would use an event in her personal life to get people talking about her in the hopes of getting more work?
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She has been doing small indie films by choice, not because she cannot get other work.

She also has about 14 million dollars. Do you?
 
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Henrin said:
And her body hasn't changed since.
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Nice to know there are still men out there who evaluate a women's worth based purely one their own level of sexual attraction to them. Keep up the good work.
 
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opendebate said:
Nice to know there are still men out there who evaluate a women's worth based purely one their own level of sexual attraction to them. Keep up the good work.
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I was talking about how Hollywood views people, not how I view them. Would guys like Chris Hemsworth have became a leading man if it wasn't because they were attractive? Probably not.
 
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Henrin said:
I was talking about how Hollywood views people, not how I view them. Would guys like Chris Hemsworth have became a leading man if it wasn't because they were attractive? Probably not.
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this sounds like a statement of your opinion:

".....Ellen page has the body of a thirteen year old girl. When you add in the weirdness about her she doesn't really have anything at all that would motivate people to hire her."
 
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Redress said:
She has been doing small indie films by choice, not because she cannot get other work.
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Really? I didn't realize the two of you were such close personal friends that you'd know that. I'm sure she'd much rather be in movies no one's ever heard of and make a few grand than be in something big and make millions.

Redress said:
She also has about 14 million dollars.
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So?

Redress said:
Do you?
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This is relevant how? (Hint: It's not)

Again, what exactly do you find so hard to believe about the idea that an actress would exploit her personal life for publicity and the chance at more/better roles? I mean, it's not like hundreds of other celebrities have been doing that exact thing for decades.
 
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opendebate said:
this sounds like a statement of your opinion:

".....Ellen page has the body of a thirteen year old girl. When you add in the weirdness about her she doesn't really have anything at all that would motivate people to hire her."
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Would you agree Chris Hemsworth is popular because of his looks? The great thing about hiring him for parts like Thor is that he looks the part, but can also interest women into watching the movie when they otherwise wouldn't.

Women like Ellen Page really can't fill the role of a leading woman. Her body looks underdeveloped, she is really tiny, and just all around doesn't have the presence for it. Add to that her body language is usually off putting in one way or another and she doesn't work at all for any major part. However, yes, she is odd. Look at the parts she picks and tell me that isn't weird. I could tell she was weird when I saw her eight years ago in that movie where she played that pregnant teen.
 
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Jetboogieman said:
Having said that if you look at Home Decor and clothing trends from the 70's you would have thought everyone was a straight as a protractor.
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The curved side or the straight side of the protractor? ;)

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Henrin said:
Would you agree Chris Hemsworth is popular because of his looks? The great thing about hiring him for parts like Thor is that he looks the part, but can also interest women into watching the movie when they otherwise wouldn't.

Women like Ellen Page really can't fill the role of a leading woman. Her body looks underdeveloped, she is really tiny, and just all around doesn't have the presence for it. Add to that her body language is usually off putting in one way or another and she doesn't work at all for any major part. However, yes, she is odd. Look at the parts she picks and tell me that isn't weird. I could tell she was weird when I saw her eight years ago in that movie where she played that pregnant teen.
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She picked an alright role in Inception, but it was more of a means for the lead to explain his thought processes and the world surrounding them. I wanted more from her character, but I thought it was enjoyable.

I also thought she looked like plenty of grad students or recent hires. I thought she looked my age, and she is.
 
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Good to see the hate has evolved to simple ad hominems against Ellen Page. If she came out as a Conservative in Librul Hollywood some of you would be talking about how she's as hot as a Carolina Reaper and a threat to the left as she's a strong, principled young woman who doesn't need approval to wipe her butt.
 
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Henrin said:
Would you agree Chris Hemsworth is popular because of his looks? The great thing about hiring him for parts like Thor is that he looks the part, but can also interest women into watching the movie when they otherwise wouldn't.

Women like Ellen Page really can't fill the role of a leading woman. Her body looks underdeveloped, she is really tiny, and just all around doesn't have the presence for it. Add to that her body language is usually off putting in one way or another and she doesn't' work at all for any major part. However, yes, she is odd. Look at the parts she picks and tell me that isn't weird. I could tell she was weird when I saw her eight years ago in that movie when she played that pregnant teen.
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Hollywood caters to the market. As long as people take the attitude, which you seem to, that a women's value is determined solely by her level of physical attractiveness or how closely she matches the image of the "perfect" female body they will cater to it. The range allowed men in Hollywood with regard to their physical attractiveness is vastly different then what women are allowed. So I don't blame Hollywood, I blame the consumer.
 
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Henrin said:
Women like Ellen Page really can't fill the role of a leading woman. Her body looks underdeveloped, she is really tiny, and just all around doesn't have the presence for it.
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Body characteristics did not stop Natalie Portman from having big roles. She's very similar
However, yes, she is odd. Look at the parts she picks and tell me that isn't weird. I could tell she was weird when I saw her eight years ago in that movie when she played that pregnant teen.
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Do you relate all actors character roles to their true character?
 
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Henrin said:
Would you agree Chris Hemsworth is popular because of his looks? The great thing about hiring him for parts like Thor is that he looks the part, but can also interest women into watching the movie when they otherwise wouldn't.

Women like Ellen Page really can't fill the role of a leading woman. Her body looks underdeveloped, she is really tiny, and just all around doesn't have the presence for it. Add to that her body language is usually off putting in one way or another and she doesn't work at all for any major part. However, yes, she is odd. Look at the parts she picks and tell me that isn't weird. I could tell she was weird when I saw her eight years ago in that movie where she played that pregnant teen.
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Actress plays quirky character = actress is "weird." You can't fathom how unbelievably ridiculous that sounds.

I could tell Christian Bale was a homicidal maniac after seeing that movie where he played a homicidal maniac!
 
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Verax said:
Good to see the hate has evolved to simple ad hominems against Ellen Page. If she came out as a Conservative in Librul Hollywood some of you would be talking about how she's as hot as a Carolina Reaper and a threat to the left as she's a strong, principled young woman who doesn't need approval to wipe her butt.
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No, you're right. "Coming out" in any fashion merely means that if they come out as someone who you do not like, they will react negatively or dismissively. If you like what they come out as, you may tend to talk about how great it is and how great they are.
 
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Kobie said:
I could tell Christian Bale was a homicidal maniac after seeing that movie where he played a homicidal maniac!
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Well played, especially if they haven't seen the film!
 
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Verax said:
LoL, that's cute logic. So if I point out that people who discriminate are jerks that makes me a jerk just like them?
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Yeah, keep thinking that's what you did, not the reality of your classic trolling and name calling. What little ol' you? Nah, you didn't do that. Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.
 
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Jetboogieman said:
Now you're just bein a smartass mate :2razz:
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haha

Glad she came out. Everyone who does makes it a little easier for those remaining in the closet. :)
 
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Phys251 said:
Glad she came out.
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While I'm upset at losing a candidate for second marriage (should it come to that).

The idea of her with another woman is... well... rather a pleasant thought.
 
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Anthony60 said:
Yeah, keep thinking that's what you did, not the reality of your classic trolling and name calling. What little ol' you? Nah, you didn't do that. Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.
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Lets be honest here, I said "right-wing douchebags" and it flipped a switch in your head and you said "wait that's me!... how dare he!". If you affiliate ideologically with people who discriminate and spew hatred against gays then expect to get some poo flung back at you. If you can't take it, don't dish it out or affiliate with those that do.

Is it an accident that every single person on this forum that has a problem with gays or blacks is right-wing? Hence "right-wing douchebags".

You should know exactly what I'm talking about so don't play the victim card as though I'm attacking every single person who is right-wing. There are plenty on this forum who are right-wing whether libertarian or conservative who don't feel the need to disparage gays or blacks. Some even come in and say a few kind words.
 
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opendebate said:
Hollywood caters to the market. As long as people take the attitude, which you seem to, that a women's value is determined solely by her level of physical attractiveness or how closely she matches the image of the "perfect" female body they will cater to it. The range allowed men in Hollywood with regard to their physical attractiveness is vastly different then what women are allowed. So I don't blame Hollywood, I blame the consumer.
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Oh please, everything that is going for Chris Hemsworth now went for Brad Pitt twenty years ago. The difference between the two men is absolutely nil. Sure some women might find one or the other more attractive, but both men were made stars for the exact same reason and for the exact same characteristics. Leading women that depend on their attractiveness are almost always able to do so because of the same reasons and for the same characteristics. There is no real difference between how men or women are treated in this regard. Some men are able to lead because of their presence, others for their acting ability, and others because of their looks and the same applies to women. Ellen Page has none of these things and therefore most likely will never be a leading woman.
 
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Fiddytree said:
No, you're right. "Coming out" in any fashion merely means that if they come out as someone who you do not like, they will react negatively or dismissively. If you like what they come out as, you may tend to talk about how great it is and how great they are.
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For some people that may be true. When Melissa Joan Hart came out as conservative in a liberal world I don't remember myself or anyone else attacking her on this forum. Perhaps it happened and I missed it...
 
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Verax said:
Lets be honest here, I said "right-wing douchebags" and it flipped a switch in your head... blah, blah, blah. (with a little spittle on the side of your mouth)
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As the saying goes, you've now "removed all doubt". Should have remained silent. But, my bet is you will continue proving my point.
 
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