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Rainbow Flag Will Fly Over Montreal City Hall During Olympics

Have you ever heard of black loyalists, also the 1967 flag represents freedom more than the American flag ever will. Sorry about us not being too happy with the whole invading us thing and we were scared you would invade us again.

You mean slaves owned by loyalists, who were brought to Canada by their owners?
 
The Corruption Perceptions Index has received criticisms over the years. The main one stems from the difficulty in measuring corruption, which by definition happens behind the scenes. The Corruption Perceptions Index therefore needs to rely on third-party survey which have been criticized as potentially unreliable. Data can vary widely depending on the public perception of a country, the completeness of the surveys and the methodology used. The second issue is that data cannot be compared from year to year because Transparency International uses different methodologies and samples every year. This makes it difficult to evaluate the result of new policies.[11] The Corruption Perceptions Index authors replied to these criticisms by reminding that the Corruption Perceptions Index is meant to measure perception and not "reality". They argue that "perceptions matter in their own right, since... firms and individuals take actions based on perceptions".[12]

Transparency International - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The gap in scores between the U.S. and Russia speaks for itself, Putin is elected through fraud is that enough proof and just common knowledge.
 
You mean slaves owned by loyalists, who were brought to Canada by their owners?

No black loyalists were the slaves that were given land and freedom if they would take up arms against the Americans and many took them up on that offer, they fought to the death to defend their freedom during The American revolution and the War of 1812. We didn't have the economy for slaves in Canada.
 
No black loyalists were the slaves that were given land and freedom if they would take up arms against the Americans and many took them up on that offer, they fought to the death to defend their freedom during The American revolution and the War of 1812. We didn't have the economy for slaves in Canada.


****ing traitors, you mean?
 
The gap in scores between the U.S. and Russia speaks for itself, Putin is elected through fraud is that enough proof and just common knowledge.

I don't doubt that there may be more corruption in Russia than the US. But don't kid yourself, there's plenty of election fraud in the US and we suffered a terrible decade of senseless war and growth to government unprecedented because of it. But to the op. the Olympics aren't about that. And if we need a corrupt free country to hold them in, then we won't be having them, because even by your inadequate graph, no such country exists. If we have the Olympics in the US, do all the participating countries support the death penalty? Is the largest per capita group of corrupt people in the world residing in the US, or do we just have the largest prison population because our justice system is corrupt? I mean to say, do you want to hold the Olympics, or do you want to criticize Russia??
 
I don't doubt that there may be more corruption in Russia than the US. But don't kid yourself, there's plenty of election fraud in the US and we suffered a terrible decade of senseless war and growth to government unprecedented because of it. But to the op. the Olympics aren't about that. And if we need a corrupt free country to hold them in, then we won't be having them, because even by your inadequate graph, no such country exists. If we have the Olympics in the US, do all the participating countries support the death penalty? Is the largest per capita group of corrupt people in the world residing in the US, or do we just have the largest prison population because our justice system is corrupt? I mean to say, do you want to hold the Olympics, or do you want to criticize Russia??

Well we held them last time. You seem to just be whining now.
 
From what I'm hearing out of Vancouver, residents are still upset about Canada even hosting the Olympics, with all that money spent and such .
Well we held them last time. You seem to just be whining now.
 
From what I'm hearing out of Vancouver, residents are still upset about Canada even hosting the Olympics, with all that money spent and such .

Everyone seems happy that we did, we even won gold in hockey. It never had a negative affect on Vancouver if anything it increased tourism and therefore the economy.
 
Well you are kind of making irrelevant points now, and you are whining about the party you like not winning elections.

No. I'm non partisan, neither party suits me. The point was there's plenty of corruption in America. We don't need to be kicking Russia around, at least not at game time for Pete's sake.
 
Well said.
Not aimed at you, but I can't believe how many of the threads on here have disintegrated in the last half hour .
Everyone seems happy that we did, we even won gold in hockey. It never had a negative affect on Vancouver if anything it increased tourism and therefore the economy.
 
The Corruption Perceptions Index has received criticisms over the years. The main one stems from the difficulty in measuring corruption, which by definition happens behind the scenes. The Corruption Perceptions Index therefore needs to rely on third-party survey which have been criticized as potentially unreliable. Data can vary widely depending on the public perception of a country, the completeness of the surveys and the methodology used. The second issue is that data cannot be compared from year to year because Transparency International uses different methodologies and samples every year. This makes it difficult to evaluate the result of new policies.[11] The Corruption Perceptions Index authors replied to these criticisms by reminding that the Corruption Perceptions Index is meant to measure perception and not "reality". They argue that "perceptions matter in their own right, since... firms and individuals take actions based on perceptions".[12]

Transparency International - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If you would do something more than frantically google for some means to undermine the index, you would find out that the only accessible source is a discussion about the merits and fault of the index and hardly defines it as worthless. They also highlight the problem with measurements is largely centered around small poor states, which russia could hardly be described as. Not to mention, the measure of Russia would seemingly correlate with the data that is available publicly and which you tried to already dismiss
 
I don't doubt that there may be more corruption in Russia than the US. But don't kid yourself, there's plenty of election fraud in the US and we suffered a terrible decade of senseless war and growth to government unprecedented because of it. But to the op. the Olympics aren't about that. And if we need a corrupt free country to hold them in, then we won't be having them, because even by your inadequate graph, no such country exists. If we have the Olympics in the US, do all the participating countries support the death penalty? Is the largest per capita group of corrupt people in the world residing in the US, or do we just have the largest prison population because our justice system is corrupt? I mean to say, do you want to hold the Olympics, or do you want to criticize Russia??

I am unaware of any study indicating that election fraud was a significant issue in the US. Not to mention, what ever conspiracy you may dig up, would be compared to a autocrat who's developed a reputation for intimidating, repressing, and even killing his political opposition.
 
If you would do something more than frantically google for some means to undermine the index, you would find out that the only accessible source is a discussion about the merits and fault of the index and hardly defines it as worthless. They also highlight the problem with measurements is largely centered around small poor states, which russia could hardly be described as. Not to mention, the measure of Russia would seemingly correlate with the data that is available publicly and which you tried to already dismiss

What's your point, Russia is corrupt?? I hope you didn't just learn that Doc. My problem with Car and others is that we are somehow legitimizing the things about Russia we don't like because we're going to the Olympics there, or that athletes should be boycotting them on that basis. IT'S NOT THE TIME DUDE! It's the ****ing Olympics. Athletes are vested, deeply, and they don't have a say in where they are played. I think people need to just leave that out of it. When countries participate in the Olympics when they are held in the US, are they supporting the death penalty??
 
This confirms what I've been afraid of, he LGBT activist have politicized sex.

and the people who loose their **** over homosexuality haven't?
 
Maybe if Obama hadn't surrounded himself with incompetent, second rate people in his administration, Putin wouldn't be the most powerful man in the world today.

But I digress.

Buggery isn't illegal in Russia. Russia is cracking down on LGBT activist who are trying to force the acceptance of their life style upon the vast majority of the Russian people. Like what has happened in America.

Here's how far Russia's anti-buggery laws go, they enacted a law in 2013 prohibiting any positive mention of homosexuality in the presence of minors, including online. That's it. otherwise what happens in West Hollywood and San Fransico happens in Moscow or Sochi.

Below are the countries where buggery is illegal.

Africa

1 Algeria
2 Angola
3 Benin
4 Botswana
5 Burundi
6 Cameroon
7 Comoros
8 Egypt
9 Eritrea
10 Ethiopia
11 Gambia
12 Ghana
13 Guinea
14 Kenya
15 Lesotho
16 Liberia
17 Libya
18 Malawi (enforcement of law suspended)
19 Mauritania
20 Mauritius
21 Morocco
22 Mozambique
23 Namibia
24 Nigeria
25 Sao Tome
26 Senegal
27 Seychelles
28 Sierra Leone
29 Somalia
30 South Sudan
31 Sudan
32 Swaziland
33 Tanzania
34 Togo
35 Tunisia
36 Uganda
37 Zambia
38 Zimbabwe

Asia, including the Middle East


39 Afghanistan
40 Bangladesh
41 Bhutan
42 Brunei
43 India
44 Iran
45 Kuwait
46 Lebanon
47 Malaysia
48 Maldives
49 Myanmar
50 Oman
51 Pakistan
52 Palestine/Gaza Strip
53 Qatar
54 Saudi Arabia
55 Singapore
56 Sri Lanka
57 Syria
58 Turkmenistan
59 United Arab Emirates
60 Uzbekistan
61 Yemen

Americas

62 Antigua & Barbuda
63 Barbados
64 Belize
65 Dominica
66 Grenada
67 Guyana
68 Jamaica
69 St Kitts & Nevis
70 St Lucia
71 St Vincent & the Grenadines
72 Trinidad & Tobago

Oceania

73 Cook Islands
74 Indonesia (Aceh Province and South Sumatra)
75 Kirbati
76 Nauru
77 Palau
78 Papua New Guinea
79 Samoa
80 Solomon Islands
81 Tonga
82 Tuvalu

Europe

83 Northern Cyprus

so ignore the bigotry and attacks on free speech made under a false pretenses that telling people about homosexuality and asking them to not be abusive over it = trying to convert people into being gay

cause other places are worse

wait that's stupid and evil
 
I agree. The gay community is what, 1.3% of the population? One that "just wants to be equal" but seem to want a whole lot more than 1.3% of the spotlight. It's getting annoying actually. We get it, your gay. Good for you. Now can we get back to everything else?

im not gay I want them to be equal when that happens every where things will be nice and quite regarding this subject
 
so your real problem is how russia deals with activists who disagree with the government IN GENERAL, not just for this specific issue. they don't allow peaceful protests against ANY law, not just this one. so nothing special there.

and if there is a gay person in russia who is in jail JUST for being gay then that is outrageous and wrong. I just haven't heard of any such cases. Feel free to enlighten me.

if their in jail for just showing the kind of affection hetero sexuals show in public with out any worry or for just talking about being gay or waving a flag around

its outrageous and wrong and other outrageous and wrong acts in Russia dont make that any less true
 
I am unaware of any study indicating that election fraud was a significant issue in the US. Not to mention, what ever conspiracy you may dig up, would be compared to a autocrat who's developed a reputation for intimidating, repressing, and even killing his political opposition.

It depends on what one considers significant. Let the republicans tell it and we are rife with voter fraud. But that is the mythical part of the electoral fraud. Annually it's a dozen or so Americans convicted of it, the real problem lies with local, state and federal governments.

Electorate manipulation
Manipulation of demography
Disenfranchisement
Intimidation
Vote buying
Misinformation
Misleading/confusing ballot papers
Ballot stuffing
Mis recording of votes
Misuse of proxy votes
Destruction of ballots
Tampering with electronic voting machines

All are ways that the electoral process in America is compromised. But if the virtue is, hey we're not as bad as Russia, then indeed, we're in good shape.
 
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Because it's not my issue. I'm more concerned with things like Constitutional rights and trying to stay ahead of an anti business administration.

So why don't you just offer the same protections others have and be done with it.
 
In America it started out that the gay community just wanted states to get rid of their sodomy laws. They said that's all they wanted, nothing more.

So it happened.

Then eventually they wanted the whole nine yards.

So it happened.

Now they want more than the whole nine yards.

omg no their going for full justice
 
so ignore the bigotry and attacks on free speech made under a false pretenses that telling people about homosexuality and asking them to not be abusive over it = trying to convert people into being gay

cause other places are worse

wait that's stupid and evil

Don't worry dude, we can be far from a model democracy, but as long as we're better than those we point at, we're in good shape.
 
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