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Texas gov candidate Wendy Davis supports open carry law

Do you support Open Carry?

  • I live/d in TX and I generally support OC

    Votes: 11 31.4%

  • I live/d in TX and I generally oppose OC

    Votes: 3 8.6%

  • I have never lived in TX and I generally support OC

    Votes: 18 51.4%

  • I have never lived in TX and I generally oppose OC

    Votes: 2 5.7%

  • Other

    Votes: 1 2.9%
  • Total voters
    35
cpgrad08 said:
Why would I trust the government with my safety?
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exactly.. the people who whine the most about honest Americans being armed are those who are afraid to make their own safety a personal responsibility and accept that risk. So they outsource that duty to the government and in order to cover their own timidity and lack of courage, bash those of us are like you and I
 
TurtleDude said:
exactly.. the people who whine the most about honest Americans being armed are those who are afraid to make their own safety a personal responsibility and accept that risk. So they outsource that duty to the government and in order to cover their own timidity and lack of courage, bash those of us are like you and I
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Yet your going to run to a court of law of the state when a criminal action and or civil action has been committed against you and expect the state to enforce it.
 
Wow. Wendy Davis is getting desperate.


Good. She sacrificed her kids for her own political career. May that career now crumble to dust.
 
Deuce said:
Also, if I were a violent criminal intent on causing harm, it would be really convenient to know which douchebag I should shoot first.
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Please link to your data showing the OC'ers are more prone to victimization than CC'ers or unarmed.
 
An armed citizenry makes for a polite citizenry.
 
winston53660 said:
Yet your going to run to a court of law of the state when a criminal action and or civil action has been committed against you and expect the state to enforce it.
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that is not relevant to what I have said. Is your idea of preventing a violent assault upon your person or your family suing the guy in court months later? Mine is shooting the attacker until he or they stop doing what justified me shooting them
 
TurtleDude said:
that is not relevant to what I have said. Is your idea of preventing a violent assault upon your person or your family suing the guy in court months later? Mine is shooting the attacker until he or they stop doing what justified me shooting them
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Okay Rambo
 
winston53660 said:
Okay Rambo
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what are you going to do-pee your pants and dial 9-1-1 and hope the cops get there before you are dead, beaten up, raped or whatever?
 
TurtleDude said:
what are you going to do-pee your pants and dial 9-1-1 and hope the cops get there before you are dead, beaten up, raped or whatever?
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I'm probably going to live in the here and now and not some kind of Chuck Norris fantasy land.
 
winston53660 said:
I'm probably going to live in the here and now and not some kind of Chuck Norris fantasy land.
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why are you so hateful of people who make their own safety a personal responsibility? do they accentuate feelings of timidity and inadequacy in you (Read Snyder's A NATION OF COWARDS).

Look, if you are afraid to own or carry a gun, thats cool with me. Its your choice. But why are you feeling a need to bash those who do?
 
cpwill said:
Hell if I know, but I bet if he rocket's to national prominence based on this plus the color of his pants, that he won't then then later strip all reference to the issue from his campaign material and website and claim to be "anti-fence".
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So where is the money going to come from?
 
TurtleDude said:
why are you so hateful of people who make their own safety a personal responsibility? do they accentuate feelings of timidity and inadequacy in you (Read Snyder's A NATION OF COWARDS).

Look, if you are afraid to own or carry a gun, thats cool with me. Its your choice. But why are you feeling a need to bash those who do?
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What leads to believe I can not handle a firearm? What insecurity is it about you that makes you jump to these conclusions?
 
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winston53660 said:
What leads to believe I can not handle a firearm? What insecurity is it about you that makes jump to these conclusions?
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that isn't the issue. The issue is why you attack people on this thread who are pro gun
 
TurtleDude said:
what was the purpose of your first post addressed to me in this thread?
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It was that you are going to go to a court of law of and by the State. Just like I said!
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Um, how is requiring paying about $240 for a state issued, constitutional right rental permit "free"? A Texas driving permit, for adding a mere state issued privilege, which includes training materials, the photo ID document, and the law/road test is $24. It is high time that we reassess what freedom means; we have our full set of constitutional rights unless and until they are taken away after due process of law. The moronic concept that we must now prove ourselves worthy, in the eyes of our gov't masters, to obtain individual constitutional rights seems a bit short of freedom.
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Wow. That sucks, esp for the 'great state of TX,' bastion of the conservative and cowboy.

Here it's $55, shall-issue, and no training (=$$$) required. I'd like to think the $55 is what's needed for administrative costs...heck it only took 5 days for mine to arrive so maybe they paid for Fed Ex :)
 
Lursa said:
Wow. That sucks, esp for the 'great state of TX,' bastion of the conservative and cowboy.

Here it's $55, shall-issue, and no training (=$$$) required. I'd like to think the $55 is what's needed for administrative costs...heck it only took 5 days for mine to arrive so maybe they paid for Fed Ex :)
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Actually, the state of Texas was a democratic state the vast majority of its history, there are forces at work to turn it back now.

From the Texas State Historical Association:

The history of the party in Texas can be divided into two major periods. In the first period, from independence in 1836 through the presidential election of 1952, the Democratic party in Texas was the only viable party in the state. It dominated politics at all levels. In the second major period, after 1952, the party faced a growing challenge to its control of state affairs from the once ineffective Republican party. Both of the major periods, however, can be subdivided. The years 1836 through 1952 divide into six subsections: from independence in 1836 through the Civil War, Reconstruction,qqv the late 19th Century, the Progressive Era, the 1920s, and the New Deal-World War II era. The latter period divides into three subsections: the 1950s, the 1960s, and the 1970s and 1980s.


http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/wad01
 
Cryptic said:
As almost anybody can buy a weapon and legally carry it via a token permit process, gun owners are no more, and no less likely to be mature, intelligent or otherwise awesome than non gun owners. Nothing demonstrates this more than Dunn (loud music) and the Popcorn shooter.

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I agree with the 2nd part of that sentence but very much disagree with the first...quite a few states put up many road blocks to acquiring cc permits. For example, $$$ (beyond basic administration, like $240 for TX..."before" paying for training), expensive/extensive training requirements, local sheriff approval in "may issue" states, May Issue states in general, and most ridiculous of all, 6 to 18 month waiting periods before receiving permits. I find the last completely uncalled for and deliberately obstructionist.
 
winston53660 said:
I'm probably going to live in the here and now and not some kind of Chuck Norris fantasy land.
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For those of us who have been deployed to combat zones, lived in high-crime areas, are or have been law enforcement, or have had something happen to their family, it's more like a nightmare than a Chuck Norris movie. But hey, Chuck Norris did once parallel park a train, so I don't want to take away from his fantasy.
 
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