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Texas gov candidate Wendy Davis supports open carry law

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Texas gov candidate Wendy Davis supports open carry law
Published February 06, 2014Associated Press

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AUSTIN, Texas – The Wild West tradition of openly carrying your six-shooter on the street has long been banned by many cities in Texas. But the state's next governor could change that.

Rising Democratic star and gubernatorial candidate Wendy Davis has joined her top Republican rival in supporting a proposed "open carry" law. It would allow people with concealed handgun licenses to wear a pistol on their hip, in full view, while in public.

]Davis has said she supports expanding gun rights in Texas. But in a statement to The Associated Press, she said that includes open-carry -- a position that puts her at odds with her own party but could keep her from alienating gun rights advocates in a deeply conservative a state where the Second Amendment is sacrosanct.
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Having warded off 2 road-rage incidents with nothing but carrying a gun openly, I support OC. Which ever way this election goes, I hope Texas can join the OC community sooner than later. Think what you will about OC vs. CC, but people should be free to make their own choice imo.
 
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She's not a Texan (born in RI), she lied about much of her past (or manipulated the facts), after her second husband cashed in his 401 to pay for her education expenses she divorced him (gold digger), and she's using the OC thing as a political ploy. There's no way this fake blond Leftist likes guns at all.
 
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Having warded off 2 road-rage incidents with nothing but carrying a gun openly, I support OC. Which ever way this election goes, I hope Texas can join the OC community sooner than later. Think what you will about OC vs. CC, but people should be free to make their own choice imo.


Um, how is requiring paying about $240 for a state issued, constitutional right rental permit "free"? A Texas driving permit, for adding a mere state issued privilege, which includes training materials, the photo ID document, and the law/road test is $24. It is high time that we reassess what freedom means; we have our full set of constitutional rights unless and until they are taken away after due process of law. The moronic concept that we must now prove ourselves worthy, in the eyes of our gov't masters, to obtain individual constitutional rights seems a bit short of freedom.
 
Texas is one on the most repressive states in the country, on everything...

hell even in the namby pamby liberal state of Washington we can open carry with no license, and a concealed license is only 50 bucks, no training required, strict shall issue law.
 
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Having warded off 2 road-rage incidents with nothing but carrying a gun openly, I support OC. Which ever way this election goes, I hope Texas can join the OC community sooner than later. Think what you will about OC vs. CC, but people should be free to make their own choice imo.

Warded off 2 road-rage incidents by openly carrying? What did you wave it around while driving her car? Did you show it to the other driver once they stopped? I'm curious for some details here because this seems like an unnecessary solution to a problem, I've never felt the need to brandish a weapon while driving or wish I had a weapon to brandish and I can't imagine a typical "road rage" situation where a weapon is needed to resolve it. Now what I mean by road rage is what I've experienced which is something like someone driving way too close, or something I've seen only once is a passenger in one vehicle lean out the window to grab onto another vehicle. Simple defensive driving will get you out of these situations. If the term road rage means someone tried to run you off the road I'd call that attempted vehicular homicide instead, so I guess it depends on what you mean.

Still what the heck?
 
Texas is one on the most repressive states in the country, on everything...

hell even in the namby pamby liberal state of Washington we can open carry with no license, and a concealed license is only 50 bucks, no training required, strict shall issue law.

Not on everything. They have strong right to work laws and no state income tax. I do agree that their ignoring of the meaning of the 2A should be stopped; it is "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" instead of two distinct rights applicable only to handguns.
 
Not on everything. They have strong right to work laws and no state income tax. I do agree that their ignoring of the meaning of the 2A should be stopped; it is "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" instead of two distinct rights applicable only to handguns.

I'm not going to get into the economic debate as it's out of thread topic, although we have no income tax here either... in fact a liberal group tried putting one up to the ballot a few years ago and it was trounced.... it's a non starter issue..

Texas has strict gun regulation, I think the Texas Family code, is another example of their overreach..... the documented problems with their death row system, their courts uphold all kinds of searches and seizures that would never be considered most places else... it just seems the kind of cases i read coming out of there, is just ludicrous, all kinds of things happen that would never be considered up here....
 
Unless one is a police officer, open carry is just an invitation to knock you in the head and steal your gun.

Besides, I'd rather criminals think everybody is carrying.

:shoot
 
She's not a Texan (born in RI), she lied about much of her past (or manipulated the facts), after her second husband cashed in his 401 to pay for her education expenses she divorced him (gold digger), and she's using the OC thing as a political ploy. There's no way this fake blond Leftist likes guns at all.

I suspect your right. She probably wouldn't give it to Texas as governor. But it prolly helps her with the vote.
 
I'm not going to get into the economic debate as it's out of thread topic, although we have no income tax here either... in fact a liberal group tried putting one up to the ballot a few years ago and it was trounced.... it's a non starter issue..

Texas has strict gun regulation, I think the Texas Family code, is another example of their overreach..... the documented problems with their death row system, their courts uphold all kinds of searches and seizures that would never be considered most places else... it just seems the kind of cases i read coming out of there, is just ludicrous, all kinds of things happen that would never be considered up here....

That's amazing, and I thought Washington to be a rather liberal state.
 
Open carry can be used for so much good in our society. If responsible gun owners who present themselves as well adjusted and functional members of society opne carry they in a sense can become ambassadors for the gun community. I was open carrying one day while going to home depot and I was able to help two women load a big roll of carpet into their vehicle. When they saw the gun on my hip they reacted surprised and somewhat concerned. After all was said and done those two ladies had a different idea of what a gun owner is like. We have to show society how awesome us gun owners are.
 
She's not a Texan (born in RI), she lied about much of her past (or manipulated the facts), after her second husband cashed in his 401 to pay for her education expenses she divorced him (gold digger), and she's using the OC thing as a political ploy. There's no way this fake blond Leftist likes guns at all.

I generally agree --- sounds like she's scrounging for votes to me and what hot button issue will rile up the Texans? Guns of course! So blatant and obvious....
 
Um, how is requiring paying about $240 for a state issued, constitutional right rental permit "free"? A Texas driving permit, for adding a mere state issued privilege, which includes training materials, the photo ID document, and the law/road test is $24. It is high time that we reassess what freedom means; we have our full set of constitutional rights unless and until they are taken away after due process of law. The moronic concept that we must now prove ourselves worthy, in the eyes of our gov't masters, to obtain individual constitutional rights seems a bit short of freedom.
I said the choice should be free. I said nothing about the permit. In my state, and others, you can OC without a permit. I wish the whole nation were like that.

Warded off 2 road-rage incidents by openly carrying? What did you wave it around while driving her car? Did you show it to the other driver once they stopped? I'm curious for some details....
Incident 1: Late 2012. I pulled out of a car wash onto a somewhat busy main road. A white car behind me immediately honked. I guess they thought I had just cut them off. If I did it wasn't intentional. Anyway as I drive down the road they begin tailgating me. I let off the gas and my car starts slowing down. Usually this works with tailgaters. Not this time. We got up to a red light, cars on all sides of me. I locked my door, unholstered my Colt and set it on my lap (this is illegal in states where you cannot OC) When traffic came to a stop, the passenger of the white car tailgating me (an early to mid 20s white male with a thick jacket and turned DC cap) got out and approached my driver door. I waved my hand and then pat the Colt sitting on my lap. He immediately jogged back to his car and they went a different direction with the green light.

Incident 2: About 2-3 months ago. My brother forgot his phone and I was driving to his work to give it to him. It was near zero degrees outside, lots of snow and ice, maybe a dozen cars on the road. I notice a car waiving through traffic like Mario-Cart and approaching fast. I was traveling next to another car. Everyone but this one car was doing @35 in this 55 zone due to weather. This car got right behind me and tailgated me all the way to my brother's work. When I got there, the guy stopped back a ways. I turned on my phone's voice recorder and lifted my Carheart jacket over the handle of my Colt (Carheart lengths are short and this is pretty easy to do accidentally, too). The guy got out of his car and started sharing some creative adjectives Something along the lines of "...you cut me off you little ****....you know what you did....*F-bomb here*, *random insult there*". I got out right away and turned so that he could see my Colt. He stopped at once, a pause, then started walking back to his car still trying to impress me with his creative alternative sentence structures and knowledge of street lingo (which I thought was odd because he was a well dressed, well groomed middle aged man who looked like he had a life and a pension somewhere). He was gon when I came back out from dropping off the phone.

The only drama associated with Open Carry is the drama someone else brings.
 
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I generally agree --- sounds like she's scrounging for votes to me and what hot button issue will rile up the Texans? Guns of course! So blatant and obvious....

Oh, I think this is exactly what she's doing. But to what point? Conservative Texans won't be fooled, I'll bet, and will Davis's ardent fan base be pleased?
 
I generally agree --- sounds like she's scrounging for votes to me and what hot button issue will rile up the Texans?
Guns of course! So blatant and obvious....
GOP voters in Texas will never vote for Davis.
Gun liberals will now turn on her and may sit this one out.
The MSM was duped in the trashing of Davis as a golddigger.
The GOP has their ducks lined up for another 2010 sweep .
 
I wouldn't call Davis a gold-digger; she simply launched a career an old-fashioned way.
 
We have to show society how awesome us gun owners are.
As almost anybody can buy a weapon and legally carry it via a token permit process, gun owners are no more, and no less likely to be mature, intelligent or otherwise awesome than non gun owners. Nothing demonstrates this more than Dunn (loud music) and the Popcorn shooter.

That's amazing, and I thought Washington to be a rather liberal state.
Some states are quirky that way. For example, New Hampshire is one of the most gun friendly states in the nation. It has also gone democrat in recent elections.
 
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I personally think anyone open carrying is compensating for something, and is pretty much a dumbass, but I think it should be legal.

Also, if I were a violent criminal intent on causing harm, it would be really convenient to know which douchebag I should shoot first.

edit: And if it were in Florida, I could just say I felt my life was in danger and I'd be acquitted!
 
Oh, I think this is exactly what she's doing. But to what point? Conservative Texans won't be fooled, I'll bet, and will Davis's ardent fan base be pleased?

GOP voters in Texas will never vote for Davis.
Gun liberals will now turn on her and may sit this one out.
The MSM was duped in the trashing of Davis as a golddigger.
The GOP has their ducks lined up for another 2010 sweep .

All I can see is desperation. She sure did take a hit from her bad press. Appealing to gun owners in Texas is usually a gimme, but maybe there are demographics on the ground telling her team to try it. :shrug:
 
i was using quite a large brush to generalize gun owners awesome so I concede that absolutely there are some idiot gun owners. But I would contest that a strong majority of firearm owners are responsible and functioning adults who have been demonized by the mere fact that they own a gun. Open carry is a vital tool that could be used to help change the negative stigma that many of our fellow Americans have ignorantly adopted. It's almost like gun owners coming out of the closet to the rest of America.
 
As a DEM, DEMs should ditch Davis.
Clearly, the middle of the Nation DEMs are running for the guns to stabilize their campaigns.

Trends in the mid-terms for Gubernatorial races aren't looking too good for DEMs, 2010-ish.
Snyder and Scott will tell me who wins this part of the election, and DEMs are getting ready to take a big hit in my state also.

So far legal, but so-called "dark" money that DEMs are whining about, is pounding Senate races--especially over ACA--at the tune of 10-to-1 .
All I can see is desperation. She sure did take a hit from her bad press. Appealing to gun owners in Texas is usually a gimme, but maybe there are demographics on the ground telling her team to try it. :shrug:
 
Texas is one on the most repressive states in the country, on everything...

hell even in the namby pamby liberal state of Washington we can open carry with no license, and a concealed license is only 50 bucks, no training required, strict shall issue law.

One of the few things are state does right. =)
 
Unless one is a police officer, open carry is just an invitation to knock you in the head and steal your gun.

Besides, I'd rather criminals think everybody is carrying.

:shoot

Are you going to attack someone that you know has a gun?
 
Unless one is a police officer, open carry is just an invitation to knock you in the head and steal your gun.

Besides, I'd rather criminals think everybody is carrying.

:shoot

excellent point
 
I personally think anyone open carrying is compensating for something, and is pretty much a dumbass, but I think it should be legal.

Also, if I were a violent criminal intent on causing harm, it would be really convenient to know which douchebag I should shoot first.

edit: And if it were in Florida, I could just say I felt my life was in danger and I'd be acquitted!

Please tell me what I'm compensating for?
 
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