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Man allegedly points gun at girl selling cookies door-to-door

Samhain said:
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Nope. I don't buy anything from the Girl Scouts and won't until they start teaching proper traditional values to their members.
 
MaggieD said:
I get it. But you should answer the door, or at least acknowledge you're at home in some way. Burglars are well-known to knock first.
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It is WISER not to let them know you are home, remember the Clutter's?
 
CanadaJohn said:
I agree, it sounds absurd, but then who would think that a criminal would use a child to gain entry to a home? Who would think a criminal would use deceit to rob someone of their possessions? Personally, I don't answer the door beyond a certain hour in the day and I don't ever answer the door unless I know who's knocking - partly because I hate people selling or collecting door to door.
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The more I read some 'reasons' for being ahhhh 'wary' of answering your door in daylight the more I recall that "cowering in the basement, clutching a 'gun' and a Bible" and tend to believe it is a lot truer than some want to believe.... :peace
 
Man allegedly points gun at girl selling cookies door-to-door
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well, she was out of thin mints. who among us wouldn't have done the same?
 
CanadaJohn said:
I agree, it sounds absurd, but then who would think that a criminal would use a child to gain entry to a home? Who would think a criminal would use deceit to rob someone of their possessions?

Personally, I don't answer the door beyond a certain hour in the day and I don't ever answer the door unless I know who's knocking - partly because I hate people selling or collecting door to door.
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You hate Girl Scouts? That is very telling. Are you sure you just aren't just a skinflint?
 
Tigger said:
Interesting. When I used to shoot competitively on a regular basis, one of our favorite "tricks" to play on shooters was to put a dress and wig on a "Threat" target right around the corner of a shooting position. Either that or put a "Threat" target down more at child's height. Despite all having the opportunity to walk through the course of fire before shooting it, there were almost always at least 50% of the shooters who would hesitate or completely miss the "female/child" targets. Not very good situational or operational awareness.
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Well there are always wannabees who think because they play with 'guns' they are GTG. Not looking at the hand but the face. I don't suspect every little girl I see, but then again I don't recite the stats on who might statistically be a threat when out and about.

But I do realise some never beens like to walk around pretending some fantasy world situation is on going.
 
You can't take safety too seriously. Whenever somebody knocks on my door, our family goes into our battlestations. I throw on my kevlar vest and grab my SKS with bananan clip - 7.62x39 locked and loaded. My wife gets the chainsaw and stands behind the door as I open it, with her hand on the start cord. My daughter has a collection of kitchen knifes, razor sharpened with diamond cutting blades, she can dual wield meat cleavers and chop an intruder's head off in one stroke. My chihuahua is always ready in her battle garb with snout scream barking at 140db to flash bang the intruder's ears.

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The other day the lawn people showed up and we unfortunately had to take them out. I opened the door and saw that he was a Mexican, instinctively we all fired immediately. My bullets cut him down, daughter decapitated him and wife dismembered what was left with the chainsaw. His wife in the Blazer tried to get away but we got her with our RPG. We feel kind of bad but... this is a dangerous world and we had to do what we had to do to keep our family safe.

Seriously, you guys that think your hysterical reactions to a girl scout or otherwise at the door are reasonable, you either need to be on medication or move to a safer neighborhood.
 
notquiteright said:
The more I read some 'reasons' for being ahhhh 'wary' of answering your door in daylight the more I recall that "cowering in the basement, clutching a 'gun' and a Bible" and tend to believe it is a lot truer than some want to believe.... :peace
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Of course it is true. There is nothing like having a gun to make you paranoid as hell. I've seen it dozens of times.
 
Tigger said:
Any time I'm not EXPECTING company and the doorbell rings, I answer it with one of two things in my hand.... a firearm or a broadsword.
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do you say "en garde?"
 
danarhea said:
Because we have to stand our ground against Girl Scouts selling cookies. :mrgreen:

Article is here.
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Well, yeah. Do-si-dos are peanut laced and therefor deadly weapons.

Peanuts are killers.

Makes perfect sense.
 
notquiteright said:
Well there are always wannabees who think because they play with 'guns' they are GTG. Not looking at the hand but the face. I don't suspect every little girl I see, but then again I don't recite the stats on who might statistically be a threat when out and about.
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I suspect pretty much EVERYONE I see. I don't trust more than a handful of people on the entire planet and they're all people who know better than showing up unanounced at my home.

Helix said:
do you say "en garde?"
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Nope. Nor would I fire a warning shot when I have the gun. The first indication they're going to have that something is wrong at their end is the burning sensation of the bullet wound or the blade in their chest.
 
Tigger said:
I suspect pretty much EVERYONE I see. I don't trust more than a handful of people on the entire planet and they're all people who know better than showing up unanounced at my home.



Nope. Nor would I fire a warning shot when I have the gun. The first indication they're going to have that something is wrong at their end is the burning sensation of the bullet wound or the blade in their chest.
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Trick or treaters beware.
 
Tigger said:
When I used to fight in a medieval combat group I used a 32" longsword, so the broadsword actually feels better to me. The "range" for it is more natural for me than a shortsword or long dagger would be. The additional weight is also something I like.
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I train with and use various blades I myself so I don't have a strong preference. I keep a shikomizue fitted blade by the door with a collection of wood staffs. I collect antique weapons of all types and the exquisite craftsmanship of the Japanese makes a fine display piece that go well with the décor of the front door area. It blends in nicely with the exotic wood staffs there. Its a bit more flexible to use and is not revealed to be a lethal weapon until its lethality is needed.
 
iguanaman said:
Of course it is true. There is nothing like having a gun to make you paranoid as hell. I've seen it dozens of times.
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I'd say it a bit differently, I have worked with hundreds of students learning the proper use of firearms, shot with hundreds of competition shooters. I'd say a firearm doesn't make you paranoid, but so many fearful, paranoid people do want to own firearms. Fear ridden and deadly force isn't a good mix.
 
year2late said:
Trick or treaters beware.
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Only sort of. When I did live in an area with them, the lights were always off, the shades closed, and everything about the place said "Not Open for Business" on that evening each year. We're now inside the security door of a condo building where we (33 & 39 years old) are the youngest people in the building, so that's not an issue.
 
PirateMk1 said:
I train with and use various blades I myself so I don't have a strong preference. I keep a shikomizue fitted blade by the door with a collection of wood staffs. I collect antique weapons of all types and the exquisite craftsmanship of the Japanese makes a fine display piece that go well with the décor of the front door area. It blends in nicely with the exotic wood staffs there. Its a bit more flexible to use and is not revealed to be a lethal weapon until its lethality is needed.
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Very nice.
 
Tigger said:
Nope. Nor would I fire a warning shot when I have the gun. The first indication they're going to have that something is wrong at their end is the burning sensation of the bullet wound or the blade in their chest.
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what if it's just a pajamagram?
 
Tigger said:
I've got a wonderful 30" Scottish style basket-hilt broadsword. It's a very nicely made replica, in steel, with a closed-weave basket and a semi-sharp blade. It's an excellent non-projectile home defense tool. It cuts, thrusts and that baskethilt makes a wonderful set of "brass knuckles". It's short enough to be able to work in close quarters but long enough to give a significant reach advantage.
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The broad sword wasn't designed for use in confined spaces. A short-sword is a better option.
 
Tigger said:
I suspect pretty much EVERYONE I see. I don't trust more than a handful of people on the entire planet and they're all people who know better than showing up unanounced at my home.
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Oh you're paranoia and distrust of people is not news to me. There is a difference between situational awareness and answering your front door pointing a weapon or brandishing a sword. it is a good think you live locked away, I mean in a secure facility...
 
CanadaJohn said:
I agree, it sounds absurd, but then who would think that a criminal would use a child to gain entry to a home?
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Depending on the layout of the home, you don't know who's on the other side of the door until you open it.

Also, how do we know he pointed the gun at all? Maybe he was just holding it and the girl's father is a rabid anti-gunner willing to file a false report to smear gun owners. This is CA after all, they would outright ban guns if they could, stricter than Canada.
 
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notquiteright said:
Oh you're paranoia and distrust of people is not news to me. There is a difference between situational awareness and answering your front door pointing a weapon or brandishing a sword. it is a good think you live locked away, I mean in a secure facility...
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We don't know that a gun was pointed. There's no evidence. It's hearsay.
 
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