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George Zimmerman agrees to celebrity boxing match

Hatuey said:
Good, I can't seem to get much out of you other than "rap music is bad!" "black people!" and "libruls!" - I've never been a fan of broken records though. So I'll ask you one last time: Show us TM's criminal record, his convictions and/or arrest warrants. If all you've got is school fights and weed, you've just labeled most college attending Libertarians as "thugs".
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College attending Libertarian? Really? (I have no problem with drug use for the record)

Are you kidding me?
 
MichaelJR said:
College attending Libertarian? Really? (I have no problem with drug use for the record)

Are you kidding me?
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You seem to take things personally so you can avoid having to back up your posts. When you were asked about your background, you deflected to a generic form of "Liberals suck!". When you were told that the average college attending Libertarian is a pot smoking, bar brawling kid just like TM was - you became offended at the mere thought that stupid Libertarian kids across the US engage in the same stupid activities as other stupid kids across the US. Your attempt to deflect posts with constant questions/faux outrage do not make my demands for information go away.
 
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Buck Ewer said:
Zimmerman and OJ ...That's the match I want to see...



Boxing in the first degree...
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didn't OJ take up MMA, or something?

edit: never mind, I'm thinking of that psycho Herschel Walker
 
Hatuey said:
Good, I can't seem to get much out of you other than "rap music is bad!" "black people!" and "libruls!" - I've never been a fan of broken records though. So I'll ask you one last time: Show us TM's criminal record, his convictions and/or arrest warrants. If all you've got is school fights and weed, you've just labeled most college attending Libertarians as "thugs".
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Show us the criminal conviction record of Zimmerman? If all you got is he pushed a cop off a friend of you you're just redefined being a good friend as making someone a murderer.
 
Oh yea, and a poopy pants draft dodger...
MichaelJR said:
It's weird. 50 Cent talks about slinging crack and shooting people. Nugent talks about shooting animals and playing music. One, a criminal...another, a gun enthusiast.

One, considered a celeb, and in Treyvons corner. One, a celeb, upstanding law abiding citizen, demonized by the media.


Love liberals. Glorify union thugs, former crack dealers, and the dredges of society....demonize people that feed their family with guns.

Liberal logic...about as logical as a submarine ejector seat.
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MichaelJR said:
Lol...really? Did MSNBC tell you about baby-trayvons past? Cell phone? B&E supply bag?

Zimmerman was never convicted of a single crime...otherwise....he would be federally prohibited from owning a gun...which he isn't. AKA, not a criminal.

Trayvon had it coming no matter what, 17 years old....21....25....he would be in jail or dead. Another statistic. I'd be willing to bet my 401K on that.
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So he is guilty without being convicted.

I am sorry that you think that killing someone makes you a celebrity.

It sounds as if you think he did us a service. I do not.
 
year2late said:
So he is guilty without being convicted.

I am sorry that you think that killing someone makes you a celebrity.

It sounds as if you think he did us a service. I do not.
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they both sounded like ****s to me.
 
mak2 said:
Well, he did kill an unarmed minor...I know, no biggie.
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Martin was a 17 year old punk. If you believe the story the jury believed, then he was attacking Zimmerman. Z defended himself. Legally Martin was a minor, but you do not ask for an ID when somebody is slamming your head into the ground.

Armed does not necessarily mean packing a .44. Fists, box cutters, anything capable of injury is considered arms.

Zimmerman is a fool. Martin was a fool. Either could and should have walked away. This should not have happened.

If I were Zimmerman, I would change my name to Smith, grow a beard, stay out of the public eye, and get on with my life. But I'm not Zimmerman, And I won't be watching this theatrical performance.
 
Serious question, if a black person becomes a lawyer and says they want to fight for black people in the court system because they think black people are overwhelmingly over prosecuted by the system, does that make them racist?



Rainman05 said:
I did and I repeated myself at least half a dozen times.
They're racists and they are vigilantes because they wanna do vigilantiism for racial motives. They have a racial motivation "to fight for all blacks who've been wronged by the system" by taking it out on zimmerman and they'll fight for "trayvon martins' legacy". race, race, race. vigilantiism, vigilantism, vigilatism. How many times must I repeat myself.

They're not interested in charity and the charity side of the event. They're interested in payback and they see this event as an opportunity to go "hunting" for the "oppressor". Even though it's stupid because as I said, zimmerman hadn't freed himself. He got cleared by a tribunal, but racists can't grasp that concept because it's not about the facts, but about the feels.
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SheWolf said:
Serious question, if a black person becomes a lawyer and says they want to fight for black people in the court system because they think black people are overwhelmingly over prosecuted by the system, does that make them racist?
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Yes. You're supposed to fight to protect those who aren't guilty. Having racial motivations may lead the lawyer to bend the rules for black people and that leads to corruption and decay of the justice system. It's same as people who say that they wanna become lawyers to prosecute black people and put more of them in jail.

There is a reason lady justice is blindfolded. It's not just for the judge, you know, it's for everyone who is part of that system.
 
The difference is one was in his thirties and one was seventeen. People change a lot from the time they are seventeen. You really could not have looked at me at that age and accurately predicit where I would be in my thirties.


MichaelJR said:
Zimmerman wasn't a prize. Treyvon was no prize.

Treyvon ****ed up, decided to play hardball in a game he had no business playing. He lost. Game over.
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Do you support racial profiling? Do you believe that black males are overall more dangerous and violent?


Rainman05 said:
Yes. You're supposed to fight to protect those who aren't guilty. Having racial motivations may lead the lawyer to bend the rules for black people and that leads to corruption and decay of the justice system. It's same as people who say that they wanna become lawyers to prosecute black people and put more of them in jail.

There is a reason lady justice is blindfolded. It's not just for the judge, you know, it's for everyone who is part of that system.
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SheWolf said:
Do you support racial profiling? Do you believe that black males are overall more dangerous and violent?
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You're dodging the question and the topic. Is this an interrogation? Is this Rainmans' views of the world? I've more than obliged you in your rather twisty-twirly attempt to derail the topic. I posted a reply to your question about the black lawyer scenario. You have provided no rebuttle to it. Am I to understand you agree with it or not? And you also provided no rebuttle to the racist vigilante rappers question. So either start engaging in a discussion or stop questioning me.
 
SheWolf said:
The difference is one was in his thirties and one was seventeen. People change a lot from the time they are seventeen. You really could not have looked at me at that age and accurately predicit where I would be in my thirties.
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Exactly.

Hell, I think parents would be very surprised to see what their "precious" has done behind their backs. And gone on to succeed.
 
Rainman05 said:
You're dodging the question and the topic. Is this an interrogation? Is this Rainmans' views of the world? I've more than obliged you in your rather twisty-twirly attempt to derail the topic. I posted a reply to your question about the black lawyer scenario. You have provided no rebuttle to it. Am I to understand you agree with it or not? And you also provided no rebuttle to the racist vigilante rappers question. So either start engaging in a discussion or stop questioning me.
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You didn't ask me a question so I am not dodging anything. I am trying to understand your view by asking you a question. After I fully understand you're views on what constitutes as racism and vigilantism, then I will offer you my full opinion on that if you so like.

I'll ask again… do you think it is racist to racially profile black people as dangerous and more violent and criminal that white people? Isn't that all about race, race, race, and seeing race as opposed to seeing the individual?
 
DiAnna said:
So he won't need a backup piece? :lol:
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what about those rappers? many of them carry guns or a security posse, they may not be any better off
 
SheWolf said:
You didn't ask me a question so I am not dodging anything. I am trying to understand your view by asking you a question. After I fully understand you're views on what constitutes as racism and vigilantism, then I will offer you my full opinion on that if you so like.

I'll ask again… do you think it is racist to racially profile black people as dangerous and more violent and criminal that white people? Isn't that all about race, race, race, and seeing race as opposed to seeing the individual?
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You ask me a question. I answer it. You abandon the subject completely and move to another topic. Offer no rebuttle to any of the issues i raised. I shouldn't have to end every comment I make with "what do you think about this? care to offer your opinion on my thoughts?".

As it stands. I told you in quite sensible ways why those 2 rappers are racist vigilantes and why your example of the black lawyer is also racist. You offered no reply on those subjects but moved to another. Classic deviation of the topic. This is how you derail threads.

Unless you offer a reply on what I said, then I won't answer any further questions that lead to derailing the thread. I know this is a tactic that simpletons usually use in forum debates to evade having to face their failures in logic and their wrong opinions. So I won't let you do that. Reply to my posts in a sensible manner as I have, argue your position and then we can have a conversation that is a 2-way street.

So, if you disagree with me on the fact that the 2 rappers are racist vigilantes and zimmerman is a hero/martyr (take ur pick), argue why.

If you disagree with the fact that the example of the black lawyer that wants to defend blacks that you provided is racist, explain to me why.
After we're done discussing these 2 items, we can move to another.
 
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You're turning this into a personal attack on men, and that makes you a coward.

If you can't answer the question, fine. I don't fully understand your beliefs on what constitutes as racism, but if you are fine with racial profiling of black men and then call black men racists for feeling they are unfairly treated in the justice system, then you are personally unfair to black people and that would make you racist according to your own definition of racism.

I suspect you are comfortable with racial profiling and you knew I'd call you out, so instead of owning up to your screwed up belief system that is racially titled to benefit your lily white ass, you went out of your way to try to attack me for asking you a question you knew better than answering. :2razz:


Rainman05 said:
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You ask me a question. I answer it. You abandon the subject completely and move to another topic. Offer no rebuttle to any of the issues i raised. I shouldn't have to end every comment I make with "what do you think about this? care to offer your opinion on my thoughts?".

As it stands. I told you in quite sensible ways why those 2 rappers are racist vigilantes and why your example of the black lawyer is also racist. You offered no reply on those subjects but moved to another. Classic deviation of the topic. This is how you derail threads.

Unless you offer a reply on what I said, then I won't answer any further questions that lead to derailing the thread. I know this is a tactic that simpletons usually use in forum debates to evade having to face their failures in logic and their wrong opinions. So I won't let you do that. Reply to my posts in a sensible manner as I have, argue your position and then we can have a conversation that is a 2-way street.

So, if you disagree with me on the fact that the 2 rappers are racist vigilantes and zimmerman is a hero/martyr (take ur pick), argue why.

If you disagree with the fact that the example of the black lawyer that wants to defend blacks that you provided is racist, explain to me why.
After we're done discussing these 2 items, we can move to another.
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SheWolf said:
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You're turning this into a personal attack on men, and that makes you a coward.

If you can't answer the question, fine. I don't fully understand your beliefs on what constitutes as racism, but if you are fine with racial profiling of black men and then call black men racists for feeling they are unfairly treated in the justice system, then you are personally unfair to black people and that would make you racist according to your own definition of racism.

I suspect you are comfortable with racial profiling and you knew I'd call you out, so instead of owning up to your screwed up belief system that is racially titled to benefit your lily white ass, you went out of your way to try to attack me for asking you a question you knew better than answering. :2razz:
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yeah, if we know two black men robbed a bank in say Phoenix, we should never consider pulling over and questioning only black men but all white and hispanic men as well.:roll:
 
Rocketman said:
yeah, if we know two black men robbed a bank in say Phoenix, we should never consider pulling over and questioning only black men but all white and hispanic men as well.:roll:
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Cops don't pull over citizens for the purpose of interrogating them like that as it is… :roll:
 
SheWolf said:
:lol:

You're turning this into a personal attack on men, and that makes you a coward.

If you can't answer the question, fine. I don't fully understand your beliefs on what constitutes as racism, but if you are fine with racial profiling of black men and then call black men racists for feeling they are unfairly treated in the justice system, then you are personally unfair to black people and that would make you racist according to your own definition of racism.

I suspect you are comfortable with racial profiling and you knew I'd call you out, so instead of owning up to your screwed up belief system that is racially titled to benefit your lily white ass, you went out of your way to try to attack me for asking you a question you knew better than answering. :2razz:
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I'm not attacking men. I am a man.... how do I attack men?

It's not that I can't or won't answer your question, is that I refuse to do so until you reciprocate some respect, the same amount I gave to you when I chose to respond to your comments and to your requests. I will however, not allow myself to be pushed around in an online debate. A debate = back and forward, not question after question. You can't state what my opinions are on racial profiling because I haven't stated them here. You're projecting so hard I could run powerpoint presentations off you.

So I shall remind you of what you need to do to continue this discussion in a respectable manner and not just leech.
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So, if you disagree with me on the fact that the 2 rappers are racist vigilantes and zimmerman is a hero/martyr (take ur pick), argue why.

If you disagree with the fact that the example of the black lawyer that wants to defend blacks that you provided is racist, explain to me why.
After we're done discussing these 2 items, we can move to another.
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I await your replies and some common decency.
 
SheWolf said:
Cops don't pull over citizens for the purpose of interrogating them like that as it is… :roll:
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they do when someone just robbed a bank.......damn:roll:
 
SheWolf said:
I meant you were attacking me, not men… and you are attacking me.
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What attacks?
Again:

So I shall remind you of what you need to do to continue this discussion in a respectable manner and not just leech.
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So, if you disagree with me on the fact that the 2 rappers are racist vigilantes and zimmerman is a hero/martyr (take ur pick), argue why.

If you disagree with the fact that the example of the black lawyer that wants to defend blacks that you provided is racist, explain to me why.
After we're done discussing these 2 items, we can move to another.
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I await your replies and some common decency.
 
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