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Silicon Valley billionaire compares treatment of America's rich to Nazi [W:185]

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Lord of Planar said:
Do you deny this similarity?
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Yes. What the good entrepreneur should have thought of was comparing his plight to that of the landed aristocracy during the early point of the French Revolution. The problem would be that wouldn't strike much of a chord either for many Americans.
 
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tacomancer said:
Christmas is slavery!

Santa gave me stuff and is now my master!
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thanks for proving my points..Geebus..
 
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Travis007 said:
thanks for proving my points..Geebus..
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Lol!

I proved your point?

Santa is master? I will wait for the red and green revolution then! The jack booted elves.
 
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Travis007 said:
The truth is Obama is trying to enslave this population to the hand outs of the goverment by doing everything counter to growing the economy .. make sure to say thank you when you get your loaf of bread on the breadline.. fools will call it "Obamabread"
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If it isn't true, it sure appears so. Liberal policies for decades now have done nothing but keep they cycle of dependency on government growing, and a guaranteed increase in democrat voters.
 
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Fiddytree said:
So, Jews were not barred from segments of German life throughout the 19th and early 20th centuries?
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thats true.. but by 1930s most of the pograms were down and the Jews were very much part of German society and respected.. and Hitler used that much like Obama is to demonize.. to say otherwise is ignorant and just denying a valid point made by the OP
 
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Lord of Planar said:
If it isn't true, it sure appears so. Liberal policies for decades now have done nothing but keep they cycle of dependency on government growing, and a guaranteed increase in democrat voters.
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BULLSEYE.... thats the goal of Obama and the scum..
 
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Travis007 said:
thats true.. but by 1930s most of the pograms were down and the Jews were very much part of German society and respected.. and Hitler used that much like Obama is to demonize.. to say otherwise is ignorant and just denying a valid point made by the OP
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I'm sure your quick perusing of Wikipedia lent you to perhaps some discussion of the difference between de jure oppression and de facto oppression, which the latter was certainly quite common in Germany shortly before the Nazi party's rise and reinstatement of de jure oppression. It would have also demonstrated that they were certainly not part of the backbone of the German state or society.

The wealthy, in the United States, on the other hand, certainly hold power and influence. The revolution was largely crafted by them, the state which existed afterwards was molded in their image, the industrial capitalist who superceded the original wealth crafted the rise of modern America.

Hardly comparable situations and plights, I'm afraid.
 
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Travis007 said:
thats true.. but by 1930s most of the pograms were down and the Jews were very much part of German society and respected.. and Hitler used that much like Obama is to demonize.. to say otherwise is ignorant and just denying a valid point made by the OP
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Ok, so Republicans use terms like "takers," therefore Republicans are like Hitler!
 
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Travis007 said:
BULLSEYE.... thats the goal of Obama and the scum..
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Lol

Here is a hint.

If it's voluntary, then by definition, it's not slavery.
 
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tacomancer said:
Lol

Here is a hint.

If it's voluntary, then by definition, it's not slavery.
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Yep.

Misinformed voluntary servitude.
 
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Lord of Planar said:
Yep.

Misinformed voluntary servitude.
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And this guy doesn't see the irony of talking like this in a thread about demonizing people.
 
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Wiseone said:
What is the real truth I'm curious. Please say something bigoted.
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Obamas skin color was the needed "trojan horse" to make this radical anti american scumbag "untouchable" to any critisism...and thats why every known scumbag got behind him and out of the country money flooded in along with Soros to get this unlimited radical into office ... ONE OF HIS ASSOCIATIONS would have been enough to derrail any other candidate but NOT OBAMA... we are supposed ot gulp down this jr senator from wrights church Chicago lies and destruction...

I wont
 
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Travis007 said:
funny.. when you can answer a real question and be on subject that will be a first.. but I used to people who answer things with abstract garbage when they have nothing ..like you..

why dont you talk about how making telescopes puts more people to work then walkie talkies.....who cares....
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You claimed the wealthy deserve "so and so" -- respect, their wealth, whatever -- because of the risks they take. I explained why they don't take risks, and how this fact is evident in practical things anyone can understand. You then further claimed that the wealthy's personal use of their wealth creates jobs, I guess to shock and awe me into silence or something. I then explained that their personal use of their wealth is extremely inefficient at job creation, again in terms of practical things anyone can understand.

Their "public" use of wealth -- to create jobs via corporations or business -- is also increasingly inefficient at job creation because modern economics and marketing is the science of creating as much wealth as possible while creating as few jobs as possible so that a greater portion of the wealth will be reserved for shareholders and for executives (in the distant past, separate entities, but these days, mostly the same people). If you do create a job, it's better to create it in China and India where they'll work for pennies and then sell it back wholesale to the domestic market on credit. A process that creates serfs and slaves.

In the old, old days when modern capitalism was just starting out, "executives" (merchants and artificers) performed their service on behalf of shareholders who were usually landed aristocrats who backed economic endeavors (such as the establishment of a windmill to power simple machines) on the surety of their lands and properties. These days, the source of wealth is the capability to create wealth, so executives carry value that used to exist in land and property in their own person and reputation as wealth creators.

Which means Donald Trump is the guy who both creates and has all the wealth, as opposed to the guy who creates wealth on behalf of others in exchange for a fee. That's basically the resuscitation of the lord class.
 
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Lord of Planar said:
Yep.

Misinformed voluntary servitude.
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Maybe, but we are all in servitude to someone or another as we are beholden to someone. Our wives or family for instance. So this, in itself isn't an automatic bad thing.
 
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Fiddytree said:
I'm sure your quick perusing of Wikipedia lent you to perhaps some discussion of the difference between de jure oppression and de facto oppression, which the latter was certainly quite common in Germany shortly before the Nazi party's rise and reinstatement of de jure oppression. It would have also demonstrated that they were certainly not part of the backbone of the German state or society.

The wealthy, in the United States, on the other hand, certainly hold power and influence. The revolution was largely crafted by them, the state which existed afterwards was molded in their image, the industrial capitalist who superceded the original wealth crafted the rise of modern America.

Hardly comparable situations and plights, I'm afraid.
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sorry.. but I dont need to "peruse" anything ...

sadly youre wrong and if you dont see how correct the OP is.. well then you should maybe "peruse" and read up on some reality
 
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Travis007 said:
sorry.. but I dont need to "peruse" anything ...

sadly youre wrong and if you dont see how correct the OP is.. well then you should maybe "peruse" and read up on some reality
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Ha, alright. Because this works well enough on children and their fragile egos, we'll go on pretending you know what you're talking about.
 
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Fiddytree said:
Ha, alright. Because this works well enough on children and their fragile egos, we'll go on pretending you know what you're talking about.
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tell yourself what ever you need to hear to boost your over inflated ego...I dont care what you think... I already know. but lefties who talk like you do make me laugh..

if you dont know what Im talking about.. then thats a reflection on you.. not me. people with sound minds and understanding sure do know what Im talking about..
 
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tacomancer said:
Maybe, but we are all in servitude to someone or another as we are beholden to someone. Our wives or family for instance. So this, in itself isn't an automatic bad thing.
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I'm more than happy to have a symbiotic bond with family. The government is not my family. I appreciate it for what the constitution provides for, but people of power abuse the powers they gain during elections.
 
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Fiddytree said:
Ha, alright. Because this works well enough on children and their fragile egos, we'll go on pretending you know what you're talking about.
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sure the BILLIONARE that wrote the piece is an idiot, hes not as bright as you right?.... he became a BILLIONARE because of course he is not as smart as you...or as wise and knowing as you.

get a grip..
 
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Lord of Planar said:
I'm more than happy to have a symbiotic bond with family. The government is not my family. I appreciate it for what the constitution provides for, but people of power abuse the powers they gain during elections.
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That is a matter of preference. Not right or wrong though.
 
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Travis007 said:
sur the BILLIONARE that wrote the piece is an idiot.... he became a BILLIONARE because of course he not as smart as you...

get a grip..
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If we want to play by that logic, I take it that Al Gore has more mental worth than you do?
 
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tacomancer said:
That is a matter of preference. Not right or wrong though.
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I consider it wrong when people want the government to give them "other people's money."
 
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Lord of Planar said:
The author was speaking of the sentiment towards the Jewish people before the atrocities started. The Occupy movement feels the same about the 1%'ers as many of the Germans did of the Jewish people before Kristallnacht.

Do you deny this similarity?
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Yes. Does the Occupy movement want to kill all the 1%ers? No. Also the quote in the OP made no mention that it only applied to before the atrocities started, so I don't know where you get that from. But even before the mass murdering started there was the literal branding of Jews, the mobs and the state throwing them and their businesses out of cities, running them into poverty and destitution, placing them in segregated parts of the cities were they could not mix with other folks.

None of that compares to the United States and its an insult to history to stay that it does.
 
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Lord of Planar said:
I consider it wrong when people want the government to give them "other people's money."
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It's a necessary function for any society to keep from imploding in on itself in revolution.

Human nature kind of sucks that way. But that's life. I would prefer it be unnecessary, but humanity is what it is.
 
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