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FBI to Examine Kelly Thomas Trial Evidence After Officers' Acquittals

Ok, I just watched the entire 34 minute uncut version of the video of the scene, and I gotta say, I am not sure what anyone would want the police to do in that situation. They had a person, uncooperative, refusing orders, tried to run, then once on the ground would not comply, even after being tazed.

I am just not sure that there is a clear way to determine this one way or the other.
 
j-mac said:
Ok, I just watched the entire 34 minute uncut version of the video of the scene, and I gotta say, I am not sure what anyone would want the police to do in that situation. They had a person, uncooperative, refusing orders, tried to run, then once on the ground would not comply, even after being tazed.

I am just not sure that there is a clear way to determine this one way or the other.
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Mornin JMAC. :2wave: What do you think about the Pic of his face? That comes from blows to the face not restraining. Also I did not see this guy throw one punch at these cops. Not even after they hurt him. Which is a natural tendency of a fighter to do. Which clearly this guy was not. Struggling to get away is different than struggling in fighting back.
 
MMC said:
Mornin JMAC. :2wave: What do you think about the Pic of his face? That comes from blows to the face not restraining. Also I did not see this guy throw one punch at these cops. Not even after they hurt him. Which is a natural tendency of a fighter to do. Which clearly this guy was not. Struggling to get away is different than struggling in fighting back.
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Oh, I don't disagree. I am just saying from watching the video, I didn't see where either side can claim that the other was totally in the wrong....I can see both sides of it.
 
SMTA said:
Believe anything you like - relocation is far from mass murder.




Funny, I don't see relocation here.

Oopsie.
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Funny, I do see relocation from the UN, which has far more credibility than on online dictionary. (Genocide)
 
notquiteright said:
Actually that is EXACTLY what was done several times during the Civil Rights murders in the mid to late 60's. It isn't much of a stretch. it will take their badges away and get them a 10 year sentence. not the same as murder but better than nothing.
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The Feds are going to do nothing, as there is nothing they can do.

Secondly, these Officers already lost their jobs.
 
The German said:
Pathetic comparision since a todler does not even have the capacity of learning anything.
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Really? How many toddlers have you been around?
 
Another intersting thing is no double jeopardy versus appeal. That other countries have the ability of for example three levesl of courts. The second most cases can be retriad both for guilt or not guilt but also if the sentence is correct. The third if useally only if their are unceratinty in interpreting the law in that case. I can understand that you American can see the benefite with no double jeopardy, but at same time it can maybee increase the chance of luck/unluck. That a person can get the right jury and get away free. Also I understand that you have a appeal system for guilty verdicts but maybee it still can be harder to get appeal Ecpecially then it onlu about a too "harsh sentence" for example a person get seven years in prison then the normal sentence is one year.
 
j-mac said:
Ok, I just watched the entire 34 minute uncut version of the video of the scene, and I gotta say, I am not sure what anyone would want the police to do in that situation. They had a person, uncooperative, refusing orders, tried to run, then once on the ground would not comply, even after being tazed.

I am just not sure that there is a clear way to determine this one way or the other.
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I think the first police officer's statement to the victim "Now see my fists? They're getting ready to (expletive) you up" reveals exactly his intentions which he accomplished. That is punk talk not a professional law enforcement officer who has sworn to protect and serve.

Every profession has its bad apples.
 
Crosscheck said:
I think the first police officer's statement to the victim "Now see my fists? They're getting ready to (expletive) you up" reveals exactly his intentions which he accomplished. That is punk talk not a professional law enforcement officer who has sworn to protect and serve.

Every profession has its bad apples.
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Yes, I did see that part in the tape, and it was disgusting, and unprofessional. I also saw the man continue to fight being cuffed even after 4 officers were involved trying.....So, You're a fair guy, should potential criminals be able to call time out to get their breath?
 
The German said:
I find the jury system to be rubbish in the first place.

"Hey! Let`s let a bunch of strangers who have no clue what law and order is about and who are filled with personal bias decide over the fate of a person."

We have a pannel system consisting of several judges.
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Right, judges never have any bias.
 
j-mac said:
Yes, I did see that part in the tape, and it was disgusting, and unprofessional. I also saw the man continue to fight being cuffed even after 4 officers were involved trying.....So, You're a fair guy, should potential criminals be able to call time out to get their breath?
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Of course a lot of criminals being arrested complain the cuffs are too tight or they are having problem breathing. As a professional you are also responsible for that criminal's well being even though he may repulse you. He has to make the decision if the complaint is valid. Well obviously in this situation his complaint was real wasn't it?

The victim has a history of mental problems and the bully tone of the first officer set this farce off.

Maybe the whole dept needs to be evaluated as this group appear to have lack of proper restraint training and the first officer looks as if he couldn't run a block without having a heart attack. Do they not have required physical fittness levels in this town?
 
American said:
What does this have to do with an FBI investigation? Nothing at all.
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Maybe if you read the thread and saw what was going on beforehand, you'd get some context.
 
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