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Police:Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested[W:308

Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

stonewall50 said:
That is grade A, 100%, FDA certified...Bull**** and you know it.

Are you really defining a guy who shoots and kills someone as a good guy who: just had a bad day? No. This guy has a mental history. I can tell you this without looking. Why? People don't snap. Given his profession...law enforcement...he likely has a history. In fact they have a very high suicide rate.

Perhaps if an actual good guy had been there we could have saved tax payer money for a trial and simply called the coroner for this **** bag.
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I'm in agreement that given the nature of his former profession, he is more than likely suffering from some type of mental health issue. Really, if you feel threatened by popcorn . . .
 
Re: Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

While I reserve judgment until the case goes to court, it seems to me that this case is less ambiguous than the Zimmerman one (less room for reasonable doubt). FWIW, I suspect Zimmerman would have been convicted under a lesser charge e.g., assault or even manslaughter, than second degree murder.

In this case, news accounts suggest that there was an argument, but no use of physical force nor reasonable threat of a use of physical force. Furthermore, the victim's wife was keeping the two people apart. In addition, the victim had explicitly told the shooter that he had texted his young daughter. If these reports are accurate, this case appears to have been a use of excessive force with deadly results. Finally, while texting in a theater might be annoying to some people, there is no rational basis for the kind of confrontation that was provoked by the shooter. None.

Barring new details that are not publicly available, I believe odds lean in favor of a conviction, even as I reserve final judgment on the matter.
 
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VanceMack said:
And yet...you and people like you DO ignore those 14,999 incidents. because they occur typically in minority communities with minority victims and minority perpetrators and you dont care enough about the victims to say anything about it and are too frightened to go into the communities to go after the perpetrators. So...instead...you cherry pick the occasional tragic incident as your 'cause'.
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And how do you know I'm not a minority living in a minority community?

Love how you make assumptions though. It's funny.
 
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I was watching the Megyn Files and apparently the cop claims that the texter tried to slap him in addition. The cop then claims that this made him feel threatened and that's why he shot the guy.

However once again multiple witnesses. None of them are corroborating his claim that the texter slapped him. So this cop is apparently a liar who tried to get away with murder and use his badge to get away with it.
 
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Threegoofs said:
And how do you know I'm not a minority living in a minority community?

Love how you make assumptions though. It's funny.
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I dont give a **** who you are or where you live. The absolute fact is you ignore them, REGARDLESS of who, where, and what you are.
 
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VanceMack said:
I dont give a **** who you are or where you live. The absolute fact is you ignore them, REGARDLESS of who, where, and what you are.
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And you know this because I proactively brought it up on this thread?
 
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New report from CNN:

A few weeks before a texting dispute turned deadly inside a Florida theater, suspect Curtis Reeves had another run-in with a moviegoer, prosecutors said...

When the woman got up to use the restroom, Reeves followed her and "made her very uncomfortable," prosecutors said.
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This wasn't the first blow-up for Florida theater shooter - CNN.com
 
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Threegoofs said:
And you know this because I proactively brought it up on this thread?
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We know this because you and others like you remain silent on the day to day incidents of violence, the victims, and perpetrators and instead only surface when it is the 'right' victims and especially the 'right' shooters. People are shot, stabbed, hell, beaten to death with a baseball bat every day in this country. SEVERAL every day. And you say precisely jack ****. Kids are shot, beaten and stabbed on a pretty regular basis in schools. The overall numbers dwarf the few sensationalized incidents and you say nothing. Oh...but let it be a CCW holder or some cute little pink kids in a school...and you and people like you are all over it.

Its not about victims...its about the 'cause' for you.
 
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stonewall50 said:
That is grade A, 100%, FDA certified...Bull**** and you know it.

Are you really defining a guy who shoots and kills someone as a good guy who: just had a bad day? No. This guy has a mental history. I can tell you this without looking. Why? People don't snap. Given his profession...law enforcement...he likely has a history. In fact they have a very high suicide rate.

Perhaps if an actual good guy had been there we could have saved tax payer money for a trial and simply called the coroner for this **** bag.
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Perhaps you don't understand psychology very well. People can be extremely impulsive. That is why guns are so dangerous with suicide. A person having a bad moment can take themselves out in less than a minute. If it weren't for the access to the firearm they likely would have calmed down before they drove their truck into a wall or jumped off the bridge.

You also don't know if he had a history or not, perhaps he was a model citizen and officer up until this point. If so he was a "good guy" right up until he shot this guy.

You really need to account for the human factor. People are not perfect and that's why we design systems to account for that.
 
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VanceMack said:
We know this because you and others like you remain silent on the day to day incidents of violence, the victims, and perpetrators and instead only surface when it is the 'right' victims and especially the 'right' shooters. People are shot, stabbed, hell, beaten to death with a baseball bat every day in this country. SEVERAL every day. And you say precisely jack ****. Kids are shot, beaten and stabbed on a pretty regular basis in schools. The overall numbers dwarf the few sensationalized incidents and you say nothing. Oh...but let it be a CCW holder or some cute little pink kids in a school...and you and people like you are all over it.

Its not about victims...its about the 'cause' for you.
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I'm glad you've been following my comments, career and public statements so closely.

I guess I should start 50 threads per day, one for each victim? Or would you hate that too?

I will have to say I do put my money where my mouth is and advocate for stricter gun control via the democratic process. I tend not to support pro-gun politicians or policies. But I bet you hate that, don't you.
 
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Threegoofs said:
I'm glad you've been following my comments, career and public statements so closely.

I guess I should start 50 threads per day, one for each victim? Or would you hate that too?

I will have to say I do put my money where my mouth is and advocate for stricter gun control via the democratic process. I tend not to support pro-gun politicians or policies. But I bet you hate that, don't you.
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Oh...I dont think a thread on every incident of violent inner city crime would be necessary. Hell...we could start with...one. Or, you know...since it happens daily...say once a week. Fact is, it doesnt happen. It gets ignored. And when others bring it up there is never a shortage of people attempting to divert responsibility from the perpetrators and instead assign blame to the gun lobby, law abiding citizens, poverty, slavery...anything but the person that actually commits the crime.

As for your comment re gun control...of COURSE you care about the 'cause'. Thats what I said. Of COURSE you ignore the day to day violence and who commits those acts while focusing your efforts on law abiding citizens. All you are doing is affirming what I have said. DO I 'hate it'? No...to the contrary. I believe people like you should be honest. Give up the pretense of caring about anything but targeting private ownership of firearms, join hands with Dianne Feinstein and walk proudly. And really...it isnt like its not readily apparent. Just be honest. You dont give half a damn about victims...you hate guns. OH...you may couch it with the whole "I dont want to ban guns...just semiautomatic weapons, weapons capable of holding magazines, weapons with anything resembling a military feature...THOSE weapons. In fact...I think you and others should press for an amendment to the Constitution. Put it to a vote. I doubt it will get through congress and I absolutely am certain it will fail to pass muster with the requisite state ratification...but by all means...do so.
 
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Verax said:
Police: Texting argument in movie theater sparks fatal shooting - CNN.com



This is the other side of the coin. Some times having a "good guy" with a gun ends up being far more dangerous than what would probably have been a simple assault or verbal spat. If we had several times more people running around with firearms for "safety" I wonder how many incidents like this would increase. Humans can lose their temper and react irrationally in the moment. This reminds me of another story where a guy leaving his driveway in his truck was accosted by a door to door salesman and shot him point blank out of pure momentary rage.
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Yeah, but then we wise up and realize how many people are robbed, killed, or assaulted by criminals with handguns and realize we should all be allowed to protect ourselves.

If we applied that thinking above to automobiles, we would all be walking to work everyday
 
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Verax said:
That is why guns are so dangerous with suicide.
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We could have very harsh punishment for people who commit suicide? The suicide market has been deregulated, right?
 
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Rocketman said:
Yeah, but then we wise up and realize how many people are robbed, killed, or assaulted by criminals with handguns and realize we should all be allowed to protect ourselves.

If we applied that thinking above to automobiles, we would all be walking to work everyday
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I'd prefer we work harder to stop the root cause of crime rather than arming everyone to try and stop the end result of their failure to properly integrate into society.

I've gone my entire life without carrying a gun to protect me, haven't needed one yet. I drive a vehicle daily, it is an integral part of U.S. society in most places. Driving is essential and extremely regulated.
 
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scatt said:
We could have very harsh punishment for people who commit suicide? The suicide market has been deregulated, right?
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You come up with the silliest nonsense.
 
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Verax said:
I'd prefer we work harder to stop the root cause of crime rather than arming everyone to try and stop the end result of their failure to properly integrate into society.
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Are you failing to integrate into society if someone breaks into your house and you defend yourself or your property with a gun?
 
Police: Texting in movie theater sparks fatal shooting, retired officer arrested

scatt said:
Are you failing to integrate into society if someone breaks into your house and you defend yourself or your property with a gun?
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You do understand that, like guns are not the cause, not are they the answer. Guns are a solution to the personal issue of needing defense. They are not the solution to solving a societal dysfunction. And I am very pro gun.

Remember to always revert to this style of thought because the liberal/gun control crowd cannot fight the argument that their may be something wrong with their "civilized" society.
 
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Cardinal said:
Being serious now, this is how I feel. Yes, the cop was unstable. No, the other person shouldn't have been shot. That being said, when you go out of your way to not give a crap about the right of your fellow paying theater goers to enjoy their movie watching experience, you risk inviting dark elements into your life. It's like angrily honking your horn, tailgating and flipping everyone off. No, you don't deserve to die for this, but one day you're going to road rage the wrong guy, and you will have no one but yourself to blame.

Fun fact: Northern Italy has a very low murder rate. Northern Italians are also giant assholes. Southern Italy has a high murder rate, and Southern Italians are very very polite. I do not consider these to be disconnected facts
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Never confuse kindness(or politeness) for weakness.
 
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SMTA said:
Old boy should not be killed for texting.
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That we can debate. Not killed maybe, wounded a bit be okay with you? :mrgreen:
 
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SMTA said:
You can't be daft enough to think this way.
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Well, there is the fact the now deceased fellow, as described, was being a major asshole. It seems he was used to being that way with no consequences and was amazed that some appeared.
 
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reinoe said:
I disagree. As long as the movie hasn't started nobody should give a damn.
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There are people who enjoy the previews.
 
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MoSurveyor said:
The bulge in their jacket?
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Depends on weapon and clothing choice. I've seen .45 calibers that I could strap to my forearm in a long sleeve shirt and you would never know.
 
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SMTA said:
Yea, well, he claimed in court that he was in fear of being attacked.

No shock there.

That damn butter can be hot.

Judge have him no bail on the murder 2 charges.

A lot of his former cop buddies showed up in support, of course, and said he was not violent.

One could say the same for about all of the recent shooters.
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I put about as much stock in the buddy's statements as I do when I see a kid who got murdered in a drug deal's neighborhood saying, "he was such a good kid", nevermind the rap sheet twenty pages long with major felonies.
 
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