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Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer[W:173:381]

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An Orange County jury Monday found two former Fullerton police officers accused of killing a schizophrenic homeless man, Kelly Thomas, not guilty.
Manuel Ramos and Jay Cicinelli were charged with striking Kelly Thomas with a baton and a stun gun in a beating that left him comatose. He died five days later.

Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer - latimes.com

I just got a text about this a few minutes ago. Wow. Wow wow. That's all I can say. I can't believe that they were found not guilty on all charges.
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

This was expected, as the Officers were dealing with a person resisting. They had to use force to get him to comply.
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer - latimes.com

I just got a text about this a few minutes ago. Wow. Wow wow. That's all I can say. I can't believe that they were found not guilty on all charges.



This really sucks.....looks like it is now in the hands of the Fullerton Citizens to take matters into their own hands. Make sure these two cops can't even walk the streets. Hook them up for anything and everything. Force them to move out of their town.

Let them gangbangers take care of the matter I am sure they can find a few coming up from Mexico that will be willing solve the problem.
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

This was expected, as the Officers were dealing with a person resisting. They had to use force to get him to comply.

They beat a man to death.
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

This was expected, as the Officers were dealing with a person resisting. They had to use force to get him to comply.

A 160 pound man was putting up so much of a fight that 6 officers had to beat him to death?
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

They did not beat him to death.

So what, he died of an unrelated cause? That's nonsense.
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

This was expected, as the Officers were dealing with a person resisting. They had to use force to get him to comply.

Beating someone into a coma, that lead to his death, is not adequate force to make someone comply. They went over the limit and should be in prison.
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

A 160 pound man was putting up so much of a fight that 6 officers had to beat him to death?

Yeah, beat him and tazed him 7times while 3 of them sat on his chest. Did you see the picture of what they did to his face?

Also there was no excuse as to why responding officers didn't come with Zip cuffs. Just like they do in a Riot situation. The guy could have struggled all he wanted and it wouldn't have mattered if his hands were in front of him or not.
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

So what, he died of an unrelated cause? That's nonsense.
Ah hello?
Have you not been paying attention?


The coroner's office determined that Thomas died of brain damage from lack of oxygen caused by chest compression and other injuries sustained during his struggle with police.

Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer - latimes.com

That is a direct result of his resisting.
If he hadn't resisted he would still be alive.

You force police to get on top of you to subdue you, and you are responsible.
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

Beating someone into a coma, that lead to his death, is not adequate force to make someone comply. They went over the limit and should be in prison.
That is not what happened. There was no beating into a coma. That is exaggeration on your part.
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

That is not what happened. There was no beating into a coma. That is exaggeration on your part.

That is exactly what happened.
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

Ah hello?
Have you not been paying attention?


The coroner's office determined that Thomas died of brain damage from lack of oxygen caused by chest compression and other injuries sustained during his struggle with police.

Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer - latimes.com

That is a direct result of his resisting.
If he hadn't resisted he would still be alive.

You force police to get on top of you to subdue you, and you are responsible.


And Other Injuries.....you did read that part correct?
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

And Other Injuries.....you did read that part correct?

He is a narrow minded liar.
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

That is exactly what happened.
Wrong.
Compression of his chest is what happened.
That compression caused by Officers trying to subdue him, as he was resisting.
His resistance makes him the blame.
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

And Other Injuries.....you did read that part correct?

Of course I did.
Now you go look at the rest of the evidence as to what was testified to.
It was solely the compression.
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

He is a narrow minded liar.
You are?
Go figure.
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer - latimes.com

I just got a text about this a few minutes ago. Wow. Wow wow. That's all I can say. I can't believe that they were found not guilty on all charges.

The jury bears the responsibility of allowing murder by the cops to take place.

They live there, and they will pay eventually, just like the cops.

Anyone that finds the not guilty result acceptable is a blind moron.
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

Wrong.
Compression of his chest is what happened.
That compression caused by Officers trying to subdue him, as he was resisting.
His resistance makes him the blame.

Subdued for resisting arrest for doing what?
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

Wrong.
Compression of his chest is what happened.
That compression caused by Officers trying to subdue him, as he was resisting.
His resistance makes him the blame.


Not quite.

Thomas' 2011 death galvanized local activists, who dubbed themselves "Kelly's Army" and led to the recall of three city council members and the departure of the Fullerton police chief.

Jurors have watched the 33-minute, grainy surveillance video repeatedly as they dissect the case. In it, Thomas can be heard screaming for his father nearly 30 times and cries out repeatedly that he can't breathe as six policemen fight to restrain him. The video was also synced with audio from the officers' body microphones.

The coroner listed the cause of death as asphyxiation from the officers piling on his chest during the struggle.

Defense attorneys countered that Thomas suffered from a weakened heart from years of methamphetamine abuse and was a mentally unstable and violent man who had abused drugs and alcohol since 10th grade.

A forensic pathologist testified for the defense that the individual cells in Thomas' heart had changed their size and shape because of the drug abuse and that his heart cells had microscopic scarring. Thomas' heart also weighed 20 to 25 percent more than it should have for a man his age and size.

Those abnormalities could have produced an electrical arrhythmia that killed Thomas, Dr. Steven Karch told jurors Monday.

"What I saw were dead and dying heart cells," he said.

Prosecutors countered with a doctor who testified that CT scans taken at the hospital showed Thomas' heart was healthy and the normal size for a man his size and age. Blood tests measuring the acidity levels in his blood, however, indicated he had been deprived of oxygen, which caused his heart to slow dramatically, said Dr. Matthew Budoff, a cardiologist at Harbor-UCLA Medical Center.

"There was no arrhythmia in Kelly Thomas. We know that," Budoff said.

His 91-year-old grandfather, Walter Dieball, approached the witness stand in a wheelchair and recalled how his grandson suddenly struck him three times with a fireplace poker in 1995 after the two argued. He said he didn't fear his grandson, however.....snip~

http://www.debatepolitics.com/off-t...fficers-deserve-treated-most-cruel-way-3.html

You know so by the Pic DiAnna had up.

220px-Kelly-Thomas-Police-Beating.jpg
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

Subdued for resisting arrest for doing what?
He was resiting. Once you are at that point, it doesn't matter what he was being arrested for.
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

Not quite.
:doh
Yes, quite.
It is right there.

"The coroner listed the cause of death as asphyxiation from the officers piling on his chest during the struggle."

Or do you not understand what that means.
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

It's awful. Guilty Cops found not guilty !!!

The rioting, looting, people being dragged out of their vehicles and having stones and bricks thrown at them. Half of the city is in flames. Where's the National Guard.

Cant we all just get along ?

Wait a minute, it's not happening. Oh, it not Los Angeles County but Orange County. One of the last bastions for conservatives.
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

He was resiting. Once you are at that point, it doesn't matter what he was being arrested for.

It does matter. What was he being arrested for? What was he doing?
 
Re: Police not guilty in Kelly Thomas death; DA won't try 3rd officer

Wrong.
Compression of his chest is what happened.
That compression caused by Officers trying to subdue him, as he was resisting.
His resistance makes him the blame.

Good grief. :roll:

The officers went too far, period. No attempts to subdue someone should result in them going into a coma. They went too far, they passed subduing him for the purpose of their job and crossed the line into assault that lead to someone's death. They should be going to prison for a long time.
 
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