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Religious Accommodation at York

Carjosse

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Americans would not have heard of this but recently at a university here in Canada called York University (one of the better universities) fulfilled a request form a student that he not have to interact with female students due to religious reasons. It is an online course with an in-class component that would have required him to work with other students. The professor refused to do it at first but was then forced to accept it. This decision instantly gained a lot of criticism from various critics including federal Justice Minister Peter McKay, calling it sexist and religious accommodation going too far. This has sparked debate about how far will religious accommodation go.

I have to agree with the critics and the government, this is pure sexism and it has taken religious accommodation way too far. The York University staff should have just thrown the request back in the student's face and if he doesn't like it he doesn't have to go to university or preferably move to a country where that attitude is more tolerated. I would like to know what you think about this and if indeed religious accommodation has gone too far.

This article is from the Globe and Mail and can be found here or any other Canadian news site for that matter.
 
I don't agree with the government decision for Canada nor would I agree with it here. If he wants a girl free zone, he can attend a college or university that isn't coed, that simple.
 
I don't agree with the government decision for Canada nor would I agree with it here. If he wants a girl free zone, he can attend a college or university that isn't coed, that simple.

What do you mean?
 
There's more to the story here than is being portrayed in the OP.

1. The student requested the accommodation, the professor declined, and the student accepted that decision - all done in a highly professional manner.

2. The professor informed the "politically correct department" at the university and the legal and human rights toadies decided that Canadian law required that the student be accommodated. The professor refused. The student did not appeal the decision of the professor, he was not at fault - the PC clowns decided they needed to flex their muscles and so intervened on the part of a student that didn't ask for their intervention.

3. To my knowledge, the professor has not given in, but perhaps there's new information I've missed.

4. As the professor says, he has a daughter and he would not want her to attend any university where she may be segregated from the learning environment/structure simply because of antiquated, sexist, religious nonsense.
 
I don't agree with the government decision for Canada nor would I agree with it here. If he wants a girl free zone, he can attend a college or university that isn't coed, that simple.
Once again you jump against "government" without reading. It was the dean that forced the acceptance of the request, not the government. Seems a federal justice disagrees with segregation, though I don't see that his opinion is one of weight at this time, nor does it imply he's speaking for the government as yet since it seems to not be in the courts yet.
 
I think this may surprise many, but I have to say that the University made the wrong decision. If this individual does not want to interact with female students, he can seek out a male-only college, or enroll himself in online classes which do not have a classroom component. If this university is funded (partially or in full) by government money, then his request is not within acceptable limits.
 
Once again you jump against "government" without reading. It was the dean that forced the acceptance of the request, not the government. Seems a federal justice disagrees with segregation, though I don't see that his opinion is one of weight at this time, nor does it imply he's speaking for the government as yet since it seems to not be in the courts yet.

He just typed the wrong thing.
 
I think this may surprise many, but I have to say that the University made the wrong decision. If this individual does not want to interact with female students, he can seek out a male-only college, or enroll himself in online classes which do not have a classroom component. If this university is funded (partially or in full) by government money, then his request is not within acceptable limits.

Almost all universities including all the good ones are publicly funded. I have never heard of a male-only college.
 
I hope he isn't studying to be a gynecologist.
 
No really see post #6.
I did, and I stand by.... "Yeah, right. .. :roll:" Just because he fixed it after being pegged, doesn't mean he wasn't in his usual hate government stance when he originally posted.
 
This is what happens when you have a "PC" dept. within the school....
 
Almost all universities including all the good ones are publicly funded. I have never heard of a male-only college.

Both of those comments are a large part of the reason I have very little respect for most colleges and universities.
 
I just did a quick Google and I cannot find a Canadian one. Though shipping him off to the U.S. might be better.

Good grief NO! We've got plenty of our own problem children. :mrgreen:

Btw, I couldn't find any specifics on which Canadian school are gender segregated, but I did find indications they exist.

Number 37: Spring 2010
Last October, more than 450 public school teachers, principals and central administrators from across the United States — as well as from Argentina, Bermuda, Canada and Poland — came together in Atlanta, Georgia, for the fifth annual convention of the National Association for Single Sex Public Education.

http://www.tolerance.org/magazine/n...feature/gender-segregation-separate-effective
 
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Both of those comments are a large part of the reason I have very little respect for most colleges and universities.

All out universities allow women as it should be and post-secondary education should be partly funded by government in order to maintain standards and equal opportunity.
 
Americans would not have heard of this but recently at a university here in Canada called York University (one of the better universities) fulfilled a request form a student that he not have to interact with female students due to religious reasons. It is an online course with an in-class component that would have required him to work with other students. The professor refused to do it at first but was then forced to accept it. This decision instantly gained a lot of criticism from various critics including federal Justice Minister Peter McKay, calling it sexist and religious accommodation going too far. This has sparked debate about how far will religious accommodation go.

I have to agree with the critics and the government, this is pure sexism and it has taken religious accommodation way too far. The York University staff should have just thrown the request back in the student's face and if he doesn't like it he doesn't have to go to university or preferably move to a country where that attitude is more tolerated. I would like to know what you think about this and if indeed religious accommodation has gone too far.

This article is from the Globe and Mail and can be found here or any other Canadian news site for that matter.

Oh what hate speech laws have wrought.
 
All out universities allow women as it should be and post-secondary education should be partly funded by government in order to maintain standards and equal opportunity.

I do not believe it is the place of the Federal Government to be involved in education at all. I never have and never will. Nor do I believe that college is an appropriate place for a Lady.
 
I do not believe it is the place of the Federal Government to be involved in education at all. I never have and never will. Nor do I believe that college is an appropriate place for a Lady.

It isn't the federal government that provides the funding that is a provincial responsibility. I am not going to say anything on your second comment because I do not want this thread to go off topic.
 
All out universities allow women as it should be and post-secondary education should be partly funded by government in order to maintain standards and equal opportunity.

Equal opportunity will always be in jeopardy when everything has to be second guessed through a PC filter. PC tries to make everyone happy, and no one can do that.
 
What, the government declaring that religious accommodation has gone too far?

Now you see what I mean. Some posters don't read at all, but just come in with the assumption that it was the government or laws about PC (ie the government) that's always at fault.
 
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