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Mother of toddler in 'thug' video says her son is smart, does not curse

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Mother of toddler in 'thug' video says her son is smart, doesn't curse - CNN.com

(CNN) -- The mother of an Omaha toddler is defending her son after he unleashed a slew of obscenities in an online video that has gone viral.In the video, the diapered boy is taunted and cursed at by adults, who coax him into using crude words.
The African-American toddler knocks down a chair and responds to some of the comments with a middle-finger salute.
"Shut up, bitch," he says in one of the responses.
The adults chuckle, prompting him to unleash more obscenities at them.

Wow.

So "every kid does it" ????

My kids didn't.

Actually - I've never seen a kid that small say such things.

I also never saw adults act that way around kids either.

So who here allows, or teaches, or encourages their own children to curse?
Who thinks it's cute?

Anyone?

Or - do you find it deeply disturbing?
 
Mother of toddler in 'thug' video says her son is smart, doesn't curse - CNN.com



Wow.

So "every kid does it" ????

My kids didn't.

Actually - I've never seen a kid that small say such things.

I also never saw adults act that way around kids either.

So who here allows, or teaches, or encourages their own children to curse?
Who thinks it's cute?

Anyone?

Or - do you find it deeply disturbing?

I'm not from america so I don't really know the upbringing of most kids but I find this very very disgusting and sad....
 
Mother of toddler in 'thug' video says her son is smart, doesn't curse - CNN.com



Wow.

So "every kid does it" ????

My kids didn't.

Actually - I've never seen a kid that small say such things.

I also never saw adults act that way around kids either.

So who here allows, or teaches, or encourages their own children to curse?
Who thinks it's cute?

Anyone?

Or - do you find it deeply disturbing?

Its the mom trying to save face for the horrible environment she put her kid in. She was probably raised the same way.

I used to work in a pediatrics ward of a hospital, and (cranky and sick) babies would start cussing in ways that made me flinch. If mom was there, she would kinda awkwardly laugh and say she didn't know how he/she picked up these words.

But we both knew. :doh
 
From the other thread:

Good luck with this kid when he reaches school...no respect, no discipline, destined for conflicting with authority and failure.
 
Watches video of kid cursing. Mother says kid does not curse. Uhhhhh.

One of my wives friends is a teacher. And she tells us all the time stories about how she will talk to a parent about a problem the kid is having or something the kid is doing and the parent will say "my kid doesn't do that". Gotta love this no accountability system in America.
 
Mother of toddler in 'thug' video says her son is smart, doesn't curse - CNN.com



Wow.

So "every kid does it" ????

My kids didn't.

Actually - I've never seen a kid that small say such things.

I also never saw adults act that way around kids either.

So who here allows, or teaches, or encourages their own children to curse?
Who thinks it's cute?

Anyone?

Or - do you find it deeply disturbing?

Its the mom trying to save face for the horrible environment she put her kid in. She was probably raised the same way.

I used to work in a pediatrics ward of a hospital, and (cranky and sick) babies would start cussing in ways that made me flinch. If mom was there, she would kinda awkwardly laugh and say she didn't know how he/she picked up these words.

But we both knew. :doh
 
Watches video of kid cursing. Mother says kid does not curse. Uhhhhh.

One of my wives friends is a teacher. And she tells us all the time stories about how she will talk to a parent about a problem the kid is having or something the kid is doing and the parent will say "my kid doesn't do that". Gotta love this no accountability system in America.


I saw this mother's interview on the local news this morning and she takes absolutely no responsibility, blaming it others - the same ones she entrusts her child with! What the heck do you think is going to happen when your babysitter is a gangbanging thug? But then again the mother is only 16- what does she know anyway about raising a child, being a child herself.
 
Its the mom trying to save face for the horrible environment she put her kid in. She was probably raised the same way.

I used to work in a pediatrics ward of a hospital, and (cranky and sick) babies would start cussing in ways that made me flinch. If mom was there, she would kinda awkwardly laugh and say she didn't know how he/she picked up these words.

But we both knew. :doh

When I first looked up this video on youtube after seeing it edited on the news, I searched it by "toddler cussing" and was kinda shocked by not only the number of results, but by how most of them glorified it. Proudly laughing at their baby cussing.
 
I saw this mother's interview on the local news this morning and she takes absolutely no responsibility, blaming it others - the same ones she entrusts her child with! What the heck do you think is going to happen when your babysitter is a gangbanging thug? But then again the mother is only 16- what does she know anyway about raising a child, being a child herself.
You heard her say, "I'm a good mother" :shock:

Hate to see what she thinks is bad parenting.
 
When I first looked up this video on youtube after seeing it edited on the news, I searched it by "toddler cussing" and was kinda shocked by not only the number of results, but by how most of them glorified it. Proudly laughing at their baby cussing.

Yeah its a shame. Now that I live with small kids its amazing how I can say a word (not a cuss word) and even the 2 year old will retain it (never saying it) until like a month later. :)

But this is just nuts, kids are rewarded with attention and laughter for using these words so they do it more. The cussing kid in the OP already has so many strikes against him. Think of how he's going to be in school. Think of all the lost time his classmates will have to sacrifice because of his behavior. Think of the diminished outcomes he will likely face. :doh
 
I am reminded of an article I read some years back discussing the African American mother's tendancy to coddle and over-protect the young African American males. With all the things working against the young black males it is totally understandable why the are inclined to make these excuses and over-protect. It a maternal instinct to do so.

But in their well-intended ignorance, they are enabling the male child to avoid responsibility and be accountable for their actions. And, as a result, their community is in the state that it is in today.

Any mother that does not recognize the socially unacceptable traits of these children, as witnessed in this video, and even go further to defend and justify these behaviors, should of have had their tubes tied long before giving birth. Just my 2 cents.
 
Sadly, this is more common than it is not, although perhaps not to this extreme.

Parenting is a an antiquated practice.
 
LOL.

Hadn't seen this.

My buddy, his wife, and their three kids spent the night with us on new Year's Eve.

They have a six-year-old and a pair of three-year-old twins, all boys.

One of the twins was swearing like a ****ing sailor. Not as bad as what the article says this kid was saying, but pretty bad for a three-year-old, like nothing you've ever seen/heard before.

My wife and I, and our six-year-old son, were astonished.

My buddy's wife was embarrassed, but not mortified, and she conceded that "he's been doing this".

Crazy thing is that my buddy has a BA, an MS, and a JD from one of the most prestigious law schools in the country and is an equity partner in the second biggest law firm in NJ specializing in antitrust litigation. His wife is a child psychologist (non-PhD).

This guy sits on boards, and his kid is talking that way.

It floored me.

I don't know where the kid is getting it. I imagine that he must hear it at home, but I've never heard my buddy or his wife talk that way in front of the kids. Never heard the wife talk that way at all, and my buddy only when he's drinking and it's just the guys, and rarely even then.

I have no doubt that their kids are being raised right. They're as well behaved and as polite as could be under most circumstances (but they're kids, so they can be real assholes when they have the mind to, just like my own boys).

Maybe this kid is the same way?

Maybe it's something "funny" these people do, but isn't something that's going to have any real long-term bearing on the kid's eventual success in life and isn't representative of the kids usual behavior.

I just don't know.

I admit that if I didn't have the experience I had I would almost certainly be in the same camp as most of you, dooming this kid to a life of underachievement, larceny, misogyny, and eventual incarceration.
 
Mother of toddler in 'thug' video says her son is smart, doesn't curse - CNN.com



Wow.

So "every kid does it" ????

My kids didn't.

Actually - I've never seen a kid that small say such things.

I also never saw adults act that way around kids either.

So who here allows, or teaches, or encourages their own children to curse?
Who thinks it's cute?

Anyone?

Or - do you find it deeply disturbing?

Yeah, tell it to the judge, darling. You're not fit to be a parent, period.

Tim-
 
Mother of toddler in 'thug' video says her son is smart, doesn't curse - CNN.com



Wow.

So "every kid does it" ????

My kids didn't.

Actually - I've never seen a kid that small say such things.

I also never saw adults act that way around kids either.

So who here allows, or teaches, or encourages their own children to curse?
Who thinks it's cute?

Anyone?

Or - do you find it deeply disturbing?

To purposefully raise a child that way, not a good idea. Having it occur, despite intentions? I am less critical of. I have no place to complain. I am very certain my dear brother (who may not know better) will be unintentionally teaching my future children, or my sibling's future children some interesting words or phrases. To an extent, I will have a humor about it. I grew up in a household where my aforementioned brother would belt out things as a little 4 year old during church that eventually got us pushed out. You just try to teach the kid not to do it, and hope for the best. By the time they are older, they will pick up on their peer's own language and use it anyway.
 
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Watches video of kid cursing. Mother says kid does not curse. Uhhhhh.

One of my wives friends is a teacher. And she tells us all the time stories about how she will talk to a parent about a problem the kid is having or something the kid is doing and the parent will say "my kid doesn't do that". Gotta love this no accountability system in America.

timeout for a temporary thread derail: just how many wives do you have?
 
To purposefully raise a child that way, not a good idea. Having it occur, despite intentions? I am less critical of. I have no place to complain. I am very certain my dear brother (who may not know better) will be unintentionally teaching my future children, or my sibling's future children some interesting words or phrases. To an extent, I will have a humor about it. I grew up in a household where my aforementioned brother would belt out things as a little 4 year old during church that eventually got us pushed out. You just try to teach the kid not to do it, and hope for the best. By the time they are older, they will pick up on their peer's own language and use it anyway.

No, you make the punishment so severe he would never want to do it again.
 
I first learned about this video while listening to the D.L. Hugley radio show a couple of days ago. I finally took the time today to look up the video for myself before commenting about it.

First off, it's not the mother who recorded her toddler cursing; it was her teenaged brother and his friend.

Second, while I'm sure the toddler does have the occasional "slip of the tongue," it's clear that he was being encouraged to curse by his uncle and his female friend.

Third, kids do curse as the videos in post #22 clearly illustrate. Doesn't matter if the child is Black or White, from the worse ghetto environment, and decent middle-class home or rural area. They pick up on what they hear and if they hear YOU as the older, more responsible person speaking a certain way they're likely to repeat what YOU say such as the case of the little girl talking on the cellphone with the adult male sitting right next to her laughing about it.

Now, are some of these situations with kids using adult language funny? Yes, sometimes such as when it happens spontaneously - again, such as the little girl on the cellphone. But there are clearly times when it's not funny, such as the toddler being encouraged to curse. Not funny!

I don't blame the mom in this case. She claims she wasn't aware that her child was being recorded nor that the video was posted. She sounds sincere in the CNN interview so I'll take her word for it. Still, the question is how often is this child exposed to this type of negative behavior, specifically, how often is he left w/his uncle who clearly encourages such negative behavior? As a 16-yr old mother, she may not have much control over how often her child is left in her brother's surroundings especially if she, her child and her brother all live "in momma's house". Nonetheless, you can't sweep this incident under the rug. The brother needs to be dealt with by both his sister and especially his mom and told in no uncertain terms encouraging his nephew to talk that way is wrong and will not be tolerated. Other than that, I'm not sure what else need be done.

Sidenote: While I have no idea what the social/criminal environment is like in Omaha, NE, it's clear that the local Police Union believes it has a big problem with unruly Black kids in the city and figured that by posting the video of a little Black kid starting out young behaving badly it would get the attention of local authorities and the (White) community to crack down on thuggish behavior. If that is the case, I'd say they went about it the wrong way! The only thing "thuggist" about this video is the older kids using profanity in the presence of a toddler and encouraging said toddler to repeat what they say. You want to get onto somebody, get onto the teens behaving badly. But don't try to use a kid as the poster child for thuggish behavior. The Omaha City Police Department were right in condemning the Union's posting of the video especially if it was done as a Black and White issue.
 
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I first learned about this video while listening to the D.L. Hugley radio show a couple of days ago. I finally took the time today to look up the video for myself before commenting about it.

First off, it's not the mother who recorded her toddler cursing; it was her teenaged brother and his friend.

Second, while I'm sure the toddler does have the occasional "slip of the tongue," it's clear that he was being encouraged to curse by his uncle and his female friend.

Third, kids do curse as the videos in post #22 clearly illustrate. Doesn't matter if the child is Black or White, from the worse ghetto environment, and decent middle-class home or rural area. They pick up on what they hear and if they hear YOU as the older, more responsible person speaking a certain way they're likely to repeat what YOU say such as the case of the little girl talking on the cellphone with the adult male sitting right next to her laughing about it.

Now, are some of these situations with kids using adult language funny? Yes, sometimes such as when it happens spontaneously - again, such as the little girl on the cellphone. But there are clearly times when it's not funny, such as the toddler being encouraged to curse. Not funny!

I don't blame the mom in this case. She claims she wasn't aware that her child was being recorded nor that the video was posted. She sounds sincere in the CNN interview so I'll take her word for it. Still, the question is how often is this child exposed to this type of negative behavior, specifically, how often is he left w/his uncle who clearly encourages such negative behavior? As a 16-yr old mother, she may not have much control over how often her child is left in her brother's surroundings especially if she, her child and her brother all live "in momma's house". Nonetheless, you can't sweep this incident under the rug. The brother needs to be dealt with by both his sister and especially his mom and told in no uncertain terms encouraging his nephew to talk that way is wrong and will not be tolerated. Other than that, I'm not sure what else need be done.

Sidenote: While I have no idea what the social/criminal environment is like in Omaha, NE, it's clear that the local Police Union believes it has a big problem with unruly Black kids in the city and figured that by posting the video of a little Black kid starting out young behaving badly it would get the attention of local authorities and the (White) community to crack down on thuggish behavior. If that is the case, I'd say they went about it the wrong way! The only thing "thuggist" about this video is the older kids using profanity in the presence of a toddler and encouraging said toddler to repeat what they say. You want to get onto somebody, get onto the teens behaving badly. But don't try to use a kid as the poster child for thuggish behavior. The Omaha City Police Department were right in condemning the Union's posting of the video especially if it was done as a Black and White issue.

If you watch the video again you will see where the child does a little more than repeat what the older kids were saying.

In at least one part of the video, apart from flipping off the camera which looks like it came from the toddler with no prompting, the child uses a phrase on his own that most toddlers wouldn't know. He was not repeating anything at that point so it was in his head.

I understand you are trying to diminish the severity of this video for whatever reason, but this toddler already knows some pretty horrible words and phrases.

Do you think it will get better or worse as he gets older?
 
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