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justabubba said:
and the attacks on his character - or lack of it - deserve to begin

either christie is a liar or an incompetent ... neither trait is found attractive to the voting public
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What if they're both ?

Is that combination somehow attractive to Obama voters ?

In some wierd psuedo-reality do those two characteristics wash out and create the illusion of a qualified Candidate ?

I think it a bit hypocritical that Libs are using those two characteristics as a metric for who's electable and or qualfied.

Seeing how you people ignored this issue of honesty and competency in a candidate in 2008 and 2012 and as you continue to do so.

I'm not defending Christie, I just think you people lack the credibillity to complain about his lack of "honesty" and "competence".

I mean really, if he was involved he shut down a road for four days and forced massive traffic jams. Sure a pretty low life decision, and probably why Conservatives didn't care for him too much.

Obama lied repeatedly to the entire nation to pass a healthcare law thats currently causing millions of Americans premiums to shoot through the roof.

According to one of our Nations Top Military Commanders, Obama sent thousands of American soldiers into a military conflict he didn't believe in.

Glass houses big time Libs.
 
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With Christie claiming he was shocked and unaware of this incident while it involved his deputy chief of staff and two of his top executives is laughable. So the question is will someone be willing to take the fall so Christie can throw him under the bus?
 
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Somerville said:
Emails link top Christie aide to GWB lane-closing controversy



Is this simply an instance where Christie's coterie of friends and lackeys thought they would show Dems that they shouldn't mess with Chris or was Christie himself the instigator? It is doubtful we will ever know, two of those involved have already "fallen upon their swords" - there will be others but will any of them tell the tale in court?
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This reminds me of Operation Fast and Furious, as well as the IRS targeting conservative groups debacle. Do we want another leader who doesn't control the people who work in his behalf?
 
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Do you think Darrel I$$A will be jumping on Bridgegate soon?
We do know Sen. Rockefeller started a hearing last year.
Dittohead not! said:
This reminds me of Operation Fast and Furious, as well as the IRS targeting conservative groups debacle.
Do we want another leader who doesn't control the people who work in his behalf?
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Think DEMs are thrilled with another diversion from ACA?
Rubio's speech failed to open a new front today, since the WAR on POVERTY lasted only 6 years. (DEM Talking PT)
 
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If only Christie had driven a woman off the bridge and killed her - he'd be a hero to the left.
 
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Morton said:
If only Christie had driven a woman off the bridge and killed her - he'd be a hero to the left.
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Another dodge/deflection. Go figure.
 
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poweRob said:
From what I understand, that bridge is the busiest in the world and the traffic jam isn't the news as much as using political power of the governor's office to do that so as to punish a mayor.
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Maybe, maybe not. The emails don't really indicate that. It does show political douchebaggery (making fun of the mayor in panic) by top Christie aids but that not all too surprising and wouldn't be shocked if most political internal comms are similar. I read through them, I don't see anything clear cut that it was intended to punish this mayor, it was a traffic study of why the exit needed 3 toll booths. Wonder what the studies actual results look like.

The emails linked were a big mess, could have missed something in the flow.
 
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apdst said:
Why aren't most of Obama's people in the slammer, right now?

After the Obamascare debacle, you think someone should go to jail over a traffic jam?
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I was immediately reminded of a line in the song "Dirty Laundry" by Don Henley.

"I make my living off the evening news
Just give me somethin', somethin' I can use
People love it when you lose
they love dirty laundry."

I always loved that song! And this is much ado about nothing. Obama ties up traffic every time he goes somewhere! :lamo:

Greetings, apdst. :2wave:
 
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Fishstyx said:
Maybe, maybe not. The emails don't really indicate that. It does show political douchebaggery (making fun of the mayor in panic) by top Christie aids but that not all too surprising and wouldn't be shocked if most political internal comms are similar. I read through them, I don't see anything clear cut that it was intended to punish this mayor, it was a traffic study of why the exit needed 3 toll booths. Wonder what the studies actual results look like.

The emails linked were a big mess, could have missed something in the flow.
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There was no study.

That was a made up story.
 
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vesper said:
With Christie claiming he was shocked and unaware of this incident while it involved his deputy chief of staff and two of his top executives is laughable. So the question is will someone be willing to take the fall so Christie can throw him under the bus?
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I don't think that's the best question, to be honest. I think a better one is... Even if Christie was legitimately uninvolved, why didn't he have his team look into this the moment there was a news story of this event? I can't remember where or who, but I heard this story weeks ago (sans the emails), and it sounded so ridiculous that I just wrote it off; until today.
 
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Singe said:
I don't think that's the best question, to be honest. I think a better one is... Even if Christie was legitimately uninvolved, why didn't he have his team look into this the moment there was a news story of this event? I can't remember where or who, but I heard this story weeks ago (sans the emails), and it sounded so ridiculous that I just wrote it off; until today.
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Good point Singe, I didn't hear about it until today. The thing that stood out to me was who was involved in the emails and because who they were, the chances that Christie wasn't aware of it what was almost impossible.
 
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Deuce said:
Someone intentionally creating massive traffic jams should be charged with terrorism.
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terrorism? Come on, surely there should be criminal penalties here, but the charge of terrorism should address more than someone being a complete jack-ass
 
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Heavy-duty smack here Morton.
To be honest, I gave up on Ted after that.
He then went on to back-stab Carter, give us NCLB with Bush, and strangled Obama with this version of ACA .
Morton said:
If only Christie had driven a woman off the bridge and killed her - he'd be a hero to the left.
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poweRob said:
All he has to do is fire any and all that has ties to the episode. Just say, "While I had no idea that these guys had done this, they were in my employ and therefore I am responsible. I fully apologize to the mayor and to the people effected by this event."

A cleaning house combined with a mea culpa... and he can walk away bleach clean.
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which says nothing about the electorates notoriously short attention span
 
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Christie is very likable. Likable politicians (there isn't that many) can get away with anything. This will do nothing to hurt his chances in 2016. His biggest challenge in 2016 will not being crazy enough for the nutters in the Republican primary base, should he actually get the nomination he would be very formidable in the general election.
 
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As badly as Ailes wants Christie, I've done a double-take.
For those who have been watching FOX all day, not you, they haven't heard the big question:
What did Christie know and when did he know it ?
SouthernDemocrat said:
Christie is very likable. Likable politicians (there isn't that many) can get away with anything. This will do nothing to hurt his chances in 2016. His biggest challenge in 2016 will not being crazy enough for the nutters in the Republican primary base, should he actually get the nomination he would be very formable in the general election.
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Do you really think Rand Paul will keep quite about this, after Christie spanked him all last year?
Dr. Chuckles said:
which says nothing about the electorates notoriously short attention span
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Christie has a clamp on GOP governors, but not Congress .
 
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NIMBY said:
As badly as Ailes wants Christie, I've done a double-take.
For those who have been watching FOX all day, not you, they haven't heard the big question:
What did Christie know and when did he know it ?
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It won't matter. Christie is in a rare club among politicians in that he is a really likable guy. In that club you have guys like FDR, Eisenhower, Reagan, and Clinton. Reagan got away with Iran Contra a scandal that would have easily destroyed the legacy for most presidents. Clinton got away with multiple infidelities and lying about one under oath. FDR got away with numerous abuses of power. They got away with it because people liked them. In the case of FDR, he was one notch below Jesus in most people's book back then. Point being that people like Christie as a person, and it takes a hell of a scandal to take out a guy like that.
 
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NIMBY said:
Do you really think Rand Paul will keep quite about this, after Christie spanked him all last year?
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it's not so much what candidates will talk about but what voters will care about, at that time
 
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An interesting segment on MSNBC with 'Larry Sabato' discussed the 6 previous realignments in POTUS politics.
I thought Christie could be the 7th, but he has burned his "bridges" with the very NJ Dem voters who gave him his big victory.
Soon we'll hear TEA-candidates like Paul and Cruz pound Christie with it in Iowa and New Hampshire .
SouthernDemocrat said:
It won't matter. Christie is in a rare club among politicians in that he is a really likable guy. In that club you have guys like FDR, Eisenhower, Reagan, and Clinton. Reagan got away with Iran Contra a scandal that would have easily destroyed the legacy for most presidents. Clinton got away with multiple infidelities and lying about one under oath. FDR got away with numerous abuses of power. They got away with it because people liked them. In the case of FDR, he was one notch below Jesus in most people's book back then. Point being that people like Christie as a person, and it takes a hell of a scandal to take out a guy like that.
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NIMBY said:
An interesting segment on MSNBC with 'Larry Sabato' discussed the 6 previous realignments in POTUS politics.
I thought Christie could be the 7th, but he has burned his "bridges" with the very NJ Dem voters who gave him his big victory.
Soon we'll hear TEA-candidates like Paul and Cruz pound Christie with it in Iowa and New Hampshire .
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And the difference is that no one outside of the far right likes Cruz at all. The guy is about as likable as Al Gore. Rand Paul is not nearly as likable as his dad. They are not going to be able to paint Christie as some Jersey "Huey Long". Then again people liked Huey Long a lot too. Had he not been assassinated he would have gone a long way as well.

I just don't think this will amount to anything in 2 years. Christie's biggest risk is not dropping dead of a heart attack before he can run.
 
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Fishstyx said:
it was a traffic study of why the exit needed 3 toll booths. Wonder what the studies actual results look like.
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There was no study
 
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Breitbart had some damning stuff on on Christie today.
These are the people who vote in GOP primaries and Dems may not cross-over now.
They called this bridgegate "impeachable" and there's more .
Dr. Chuckles said:
it's not so much what candidates will talk about but what voters will care about, at that time
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