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Man arrested with cache of guns, explosives

Somerville said:
Interesting reason the first officer started asking questions of the man


an update on the story
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I don't really see the problem with what the man had. He wasn't using them it seemed, wasn't infringing upon the rights of others, so move along.
 
Man with 48 bombs in Ohio is an Indiana Guardsman - WCMH: News, Weather, and Sports for Columbus, Ohio

LONDON, Ohio (AP) - A man being held on $1 million bond in Ohio after police say they found bombs and other weapons in his vehicle has been identified as an Indiana National Guardsman.

The Columbus Dispatch (Indiana guardsman stopped for speeding in Madison County had 48 bombs, prosecutor says | The Columbus Dispatch ) reports that 43-year-old Andrew Scott Boguslawski is also a groundskeeper at a National Guard training center near Butlerville, in south-central Indiana. Lt. Col. Cathy Van Bree told The Dispatch Boguslawski is an Indiana National Guard specialist who does intelligence analysis and has top-secret clearance.
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This whole case just reeks.

This clown is a weekend warrior who, it sounds like, is the full-time groundskeeper for the Guard facility.

It sounds like a Special Ops wanna-be to me who got hold of some ordinance he ain't supposed to have.

This case will be highly entertaining, especially with the IN Guard base covering their asses about what this clown had in his car.

Somebody is not taking inventory properly of the explosives on the base......
 
lawboy said:
Why do you say that?
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People put bumper stickers on their cars for all sorts of reasons, none of which are any business of the cops. Write your speeding ticket and move on.
 
Deuce said:
I'm not a lawyer like you, so maybe you can tell me if seeing a gun between the man's knees is probable cause.
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depends on the situation

if you read my next post or so you'd see that I stated that I believe the cop's actions would be sustained
 
Ikari said:
I don't really see the problem with what the man had. He wasn't using them it seemed, wasn't infringing upon the rights of others, so move along.
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Then let him park that car in your driveway.
 
SMTA said:
Then let him park that car in your driveway.
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Why? This isn't Minority Report here, we can't punish "future" crime. Besides, the government claims that most everything is an explosive device these days, who knows what he really had. A lot of the crap I built as a kid is probably a felony in today's day and age. People overreacting and getting us nothing but more government up our bums.
 
Since the officer said he saw the butt of the pistol between the man's knees, then that certainly is 100% true. Like it is always true when officers testify the person had their bag of pot or coke "in plain sight." We really only need to hear what police officer's say and we really should question why so terribly much money is wasted on unnecessary trials, when a police report should be sufficient to determine what happened and to determine guilt.
 
SMTA said:
His top secret clearance will not negate improperly transporting weapons in OH.

He sounds like a class one idiot to me.
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Which is what the cops want you to think of someone you do not know. Demonizing people is just another step.
 
Ikari said:
Why? This isn't Minority Report here, we can't punish "future" crime. Besides, the government claims that most everything is an explosive device these days, who knows what he really had. A lot of the crap I built as a kid is probably a felony in today's day and age. People overreacting and getting us nothing but more government up our bums.
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True. It could have been Este model rocket engines or M88 fire crackers with a battery operated model rocket engine ignition box.
 
joko104 said:
True. It could have been Este model rocket engines or M88 fire crackers with a battery operated model rocket engine ignition box.
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Or Drain-O and a 2 liter bottle.
 
Maybe they were firecrackers!
Or maybe the guy didn't have anything in his car and the cops invented the whole thing!



Am I doing it right?
 
The bottom line remains that he was dirty. IF it gets to a jury, that always carries a lot of weight. People don't like bombs these days.
 
CanadaJohn said:
I agree - the fact the man was involved in "intelligence training" and had "top-secret clearance" leads me to believe that this case may end rather quickly without too much further public information being disclosed. His behaviour with the officer is problematic, but one can readily imagine that training Navy Seals might very well involve identifying and disarming explosives, etc.
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He was a groundskeeper. His involvement in "intelligence training" was probably limited to things like "how to mow the grass" and his "top-secret clearance" allowed him into the equipment shed.
 
Someone's telling fibs to the press. I doubt the stories about the man's job and history.
 
Somerville said:
The cop asked a question, "Do you have any guns in the car?" Boguslawski answered in the negative and it was only when the officer actually saw a firearm in the vehicle that the man was arrested.
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Maybe he forgot and thought it was something else between his legs.
 
Montecresto said:
People put bumper stickers on their cars for all sorts of reasons, none of which are any business of the cops. Write your speeding ticket and move on.
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Still, there was nothing illegal about asking if he had weapons in the car, bumper sticker or not and since the sticker stated, "if you can read this, you are in range". What would that mean? "Watch out for me, I am prone to road rage and have a gun"?
 
Deuce said:
I'm not a lawyer like you, so maybe you can tell me if seeing a gun between the man's knees is probable cause.
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It may be PC to believe a crime is being committed, improper transport of a weapon in a motor vehicle. That aside, it is MORE than a legal reason to order him out of the car, and or draw a weapon on him.
 
MichaelJR said:
Why not? First and second amendment, that's why. Says what he wants about guns. Nothing illegal, certainly not grounds to pull him over.
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That still has no bearing on if it is a violation of the driver's rights for the officer to ASK the question if he had guns in the car. He was pulled over for a traffic offense.
 
lawboy said:
That still has no bearing on if it is a violation of the driver's rights for the officer to ASK the question if he had guns in the car. He was pulled over for a traffic offense.
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And that is grounds to ask about weapons?
 
Montecresto said:
People put bumper stickers on their cars for all sorts of reasons, none of which are any business of the cops. Write your speeding ticket and move on.
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MichaelJR said:
And that is grounds to ask about weapons?
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You don't need probable cause to ask someone a question. And you don't need probable cause to see an exposed weapon.
 
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