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Rand Paul: Edward Snowden doesn’t deserve the death penalty[W:101]

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Sen. Rand Paul said Sunday that former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden does not deserve the death penalty or life in prison even though he broke the law in leaking thousands of classified documents outlining U.S. surveillance programs.
“I think that’s inappropriate and I think that’s why he fled, because that’s what he faced,” Paul said onFace the Nation.


Paul, a libertarian and potential 2016 presidential candidate, said Friday he plans to lead a class action lawsuit against the NSA over its data collection programs. Paul claims that hundreds of thousands of supporters have signed on to his lawsuit thanks to the information brought to light by the former NSA contractor.

I think, really, in the end,” Paul told ABC, “history’s going to judge that he revealed great abuses of our government and great abuses of our intelligence community.”


Read more @: Rand Paul: Edward Snowden doesn't deserve the death penalty | MSNBC

Good for Rand! This is one of those rare circumstances I actually agree with Rand Paul! :applaudThis NSA **** is really bringing people from all across the political spectrum together!
 
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I just posted this in my thread, the enemy within, which both Rand Paul and Snowden are.
 
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Paul erred in assuming that the death penalty was ever a viable option. Politically speaking it would prove to be an absolute nightmare for the Obama administration. Of course the actual quote stated that Snowden did not deserve the death penalty or life in prison. Despite the emotional appeal that Snowden presents, swiping thousands of classified documents for his own use merits as much.
 
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I think you'd either sue him or the NSA, shouldn't be right to do both.
 
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I just posted this in my thread, the enemy within, which both Rand Paul and Snowden are.

Oh dear lord. How is America going to survive like this. I tell ya, with people that think this way, we're almost certainly going to hell in a clothes basket (hand basket, whatever).
 
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Paul erred in assuming that the death penalty was ever a viable option. Politically speaking it would prove to be an absolute nightmare for the Obama administration. Of course the actual quote stated that Snowden did not deserve the death penalty or life in prison. Despite the emotional appeal that Snowden presents, swiping thousands of classified documents for his own use merits as much.

Um, they were very much for my use too. And yours despite the fact that you don't recognize that. I happen to appreciate his work, and only hope in the end that there's more people that agree with that then you.
 
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How many more would you like?
Oh dear lord. How is America going to survive like this. I tell ya, with people that think this way, we're almost certainly going to hell in a clothes basket (hand basket, whatever).
How about Ted Cruz and his TEA-caucus.
That lost 24 billion in Oct. which could be paying for this year's unemployment extensions.
I'd be spying on that .
 
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Read more @: Rand Paul: Edward Snowden doesn't deserve the death penalty | MSNBC

Good for Rand! This is one of those rare circumstances I actually agree with Rand Paul! :applaudThis NSA **** is really bringing people from all across the political spectrum together! [/FONT][/COLOR]

You agree with him because, like you, he hates the Federal Government and wants to go back to the good old days of 'States' rights'.
 
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Um, they were very much for my use too. And yours despite the fact that you don't recognize that. I happen to appreciate his work, and only hope in the end that there's more people that agree with that then you.
I don't doubt that he intended to make them available to the public from the start. After all, his intent clearly predated even being hired by the NSA. That being said, whatever supposedly cordial intentions he may have acted with shouldn't exonerate him from appropriate legal consequences. That would set forth a fairly destructive precedent and open the door for future folk-hero wannabees.
 
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You agree with him because, like you, he hates the Federal Government and wants to go back to the good old days of 'States' rights'.

:lamo
Nope.
 
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As you say, Paul erred.
After watching Rand Paul these months, do you really believe he "erred" in bringing up the death penalty.
In a related story, Napolitano says NO Snowden clemency .
Paul erred in assuming that the death penalty was ever a viable option. Politically speaking it would prove to be an absolute nightmare for the Obama administration. Of course the actual quote stated that Snowden did not deserve the death penalty or life in prison. Despite the emotional appeal that Snowden presents, swiping thousands of classified documents for his own use merits as much.
 
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10 years ago, anybody who supported what Snowden did would have been put through the meat grinder by the right wing. Funny how things change...
 
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I don't doubt that he intended to make them available to the public from the start. After all, his intent clearly predated even being hired by the NSA. That being said, whatever supposedly cordial intentions he may have acted with shouldn't exonerate him from appropriate legal consequences. That would set forth a fairly destructive precedent and open the door for future folk-hero wannabees.

You dismiss out of hand the possibility that he did what he did out of genuine concern that Americans civil liberties are being violated. I happen to appreciate that because I appreciate a private conversation. Ed Snowden hasn't offended me at all. He also hasn't offended ex-presidents, SCOTUS judges, constitutional lawyers, law professors, and millions of average Americans across the country that are DEMANDING "genuine reform" to the intelligence agency with the largest budget and the least oversight of them all. And I will point out again, Senator Church warned that the NSA would become what Snowden's revelations show the agency to be without the proper oversight. I for one am not cool with this **** AT ALL!
 
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As you say, Paul erred.
After watching Rand Paul these months, do you really believe he "erred" in bringing up the death penalty.
In a related story, Napolitano says NO Snowden clemency .

Janet or Andrew?
 
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10 years ago, anybody who supported what Snowden did would have been put through the meat grinder by the right wing. Funny how things change...

You mean when Sandra Day O'Conner was saying that Bush's unchecked warrantless wiretapping would lead to dictatorship?
 
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Would that be the same Sandra Day O'Connor who now says the SCOTUS was wrong on Bush v. Gore?
As bad as Roberts Court has been to Liberals, Libs could still have the Rehnquist court .
You mean when Sandra Day O'Conner was saying that Bush's unchecked warrantless wiretapping would lead to dictatorship?
 
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Would that be the same Sandra Day O'Connor who now says the SCOTUS was wrong on Bush v. Gore?
As bad as Roberts Court has been to Liberals, Libs could still have the Rehnquist court .

Yes indeed. The Reagan appointed SCOTUS judge that picked our president single handedly in 2000, repented of the Supreme Courts involvement in the election and probably due to her horror that the presidents unchecked violation of our constitution would lead to dictatorship. Well..........................
 
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You mean when Sandra Day O'Conner was saying that Bush's unchecked warrantless wiretapping would lead to dictatorship?

The wiretap required one connection to be outside the US and one connection be on the terrorist watch list. Even then, a warrant was required from a panel of judges. Further, no information from the tap can be used against someone without a full/normal warrant being obtained without information from the "warrantless" tap.

That's "unchecked"?
 
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The wiretap required one connection to be outside the US and one connection be on the terrorist watch list. Even then, a warrant was required from a panel of judges. Further, no information from the tap can be used against someone without a full/normal warrant being obtained without information from the "warrantless" tap.

That's "unchecked"?

The Supreme Court justice knows far more than you do about this!
 
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The Supreme Court justice knows far more than you do about this!

I just listed the basics.
 
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Like I said.
 
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The wiretap required one connection to be outside the US and one connection be on the terrorist watch list. Even then, a warrant was required from a panel of judges. Further, no information from the tap can be used against someone without a full/normal warrant being obtained without information from the "warrantless" tap.

That's "unchecked"?

Except they kind were unchecked cuz they broke their own damn rules...
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/16/us/nsa-often-broke-rules-on-privacy-audit-shows.html
NSA reportedly broke privacy rules thousands of times | Fox News
NSA broke its own rules in 'virtually every' record, declassified documents show ? RT USA

Who knows what other rules they broke...
 
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Stand by, Snowden's not finished.

If he gots more documents and info i believe the public would love to see it :mrgreen:
 
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