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I think they should make a sport out of it. Drop him off in the woods somewhere buck naked in a remote part Canada. Give him a one day head start.

Then you let 50 paying customers (experienced hunters only) and their dogs try to track him and hunt him down. Each person has to pay $500,000 or so to participate.

Whoever gets the kill gets $1 milllion, the remainder of the money goes to the victims families.

Put a new definition to the word "manhunt." Lol.
 
CanadaJohn said:
I don't agree with that at all. There are lots of things in life that I, personally, have no desire to do or haven't the mental, emotional, or physical capacity to accomplish but that doesn't mean those things aren't needed and required in a civilized society and it is nonsense to attribute mental disturbance to someone who can accomplish an activity sanctioned by that civilized society just because you couldn't or wouldn't.
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Your post made me think about the days when an executioner was required to use a sword to behead someone! Mary, Queen of Scots, is possibly one of the most notable. Can you imagine what their thoughts were, even though it was their job? We have made it less personal by using machines or drugs today, but I commend anyone who has the fortitude and mental attitude to accomplish what needs to be done!

Good morning, CJ. :2wave:
 
Horrifically, it took three blows to sever the queen's head.
 
vesper said:
Well if you believe in God and have read your Bible, then you know He too believed in capital punishment. Capital punishment was a significant feature in the justice system of Old Testament Israel. Execution was called for in response to extreme civil crimes like murder and rape. There were mechanisms in place to avert the death penalty in some situations, and God sometimes spared the lives of people whose actions, legally speaking, would have otherwise meant the death penalty. The establishment of capital punishment in ancient Israel is often used to argue for the death penalty in modern times—and it seems reasonable to conclude that since God incorporated it into Israelite society, I don't see how some now claim it antithetical to His nature.

The death penalty was never employed arbitrarily or frivolously. In fact, observing the use of capital punishment in the Old Testament actually shows us how precious human life is to God. Because human beings are image-bearers of God, murder was such a serious affront to both God and man that it had to be answered with the blood of the murderer. Genesis 9:6 suggests that this sense of justice is woven into the moral fabric of Creation:


Whoever sheds man’s blood,
his blood will be shed by man,
for God made man
in His image. – Genesis 9:6
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If you believe in God and have read the bible you would know that in many ways the New Testament is a repudiation of the Old Testament and is absolutely a rejection of the death penalty.
 
lizzie said:
I am going to assume that you support a strong right to self-defense. If that is the case, then you have decided that you are indeed fit to decide who lives and who dies, based on your perception of a possible threat from a fellow citizen. Since I believe I have a right to defend myself from mortal threat, I have deemed that I am indeed fit to decide that someone else should die. Since my life is not more important than someone else's, except to me and those who love me, then why would I not support killing someone who has not only threatened someone else, but did indeed kill another person?
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This is not a self defense or even a third party self defense situation. He is under the custody of the state and is not a danger to the general population as long as that condition holds true.
 
CanadaJohn said:
I don't agree with that at all. There are lots of things in life that I, personally, have no desire to do or haven't the mental, emotional, or physical capacity to accomplish but that doesn't mean those things aren't needed and required in a civilized society and it is nonsense to attribute mental disturbance to someone who can accomplish an activity sanctioned by that civilized society just because you couldn't or wouldn't.
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No, it's not. If we can judge those that are breaking the law for killing someone then surely we can judge those that kill people doing activities sanctioned by the state.
 
Gipper said:
I guess NASA should've shut down after 1986 too, right?
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NASA astronauts understand the risks and agreed to them. I have not agreed to being executed for a crime I didn't commit. But you aren't dumb enough to think your comparison was valid, so I can only conclude you were being dishonest with it.
 
Peter Grimm said:
I think they should make a sport out of it. Drop him off in the woods somewhere buck naked in a remote part Canada. Give him a one day head start.

Then you let 50 paying customers (experienced hunters only) and their dogs try to track him and hunt him down. Each person has to pay $500,000 or so to participate.

Whoever gets the kill gets $1 milllion, the remainder of the money goes to the victims families.

Put a new definition to the word "manhunt." Lol.
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I saw that movie. Ice T killed all the hunters.
 
polgara said:
Your post made me think about the days when an executioner was required to use a sword to behead someone! Mary, Queen of Scots, is possibly one of the most notable. Can you imagine what their thoughts were, even though it was their job? We have made it less personal by using machines or drugs today, but I commend anyone who has the fortitude and mental attitude to accomplish what needs to be done!

Good morning, CJ. :2wave:
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Good afternoon Lady P - hope all is well with you.
 
Henrin said:
No, it's not. If we can judge those that are breaking the law for killing someone then surely we can judge those that kill people doing activities sanctioned by the state.
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That's utter nonsense.
 
McGuire, 53, of Preble County in western Ohio, was sentenced to death for killing Joy Stewart in 1989 after meeting her while working on her friend's house. Investigators say McGuire raped and choked the 22-year-old Stewart and stabbed her in the neck and shoulder. The newly married Stewart was about eight months pregnant.

I don't think people like that deserve to be given drugs at their execution. Stabbing him up arse to death would be much more appropriate.
 
CanadaJohn said:
That's utter nonsense.
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We are dealing with state sanctioned serial killers that kill people as their everyday job and you honestly think these people aren't messed up in the head?
 
polgara said:
Your post made me think about the days when an executioner was required to use a sword to behead someone! Mary, Queen of Scots, is possibly one of the most notable. Can you imagine what their thoughts were, even though it was their job? We have made it less personal by using machines or drugs today, but I commend anyone who has the fortitude and mental attitude to accomplish what needs to be done!

Good morning, CJ. :2wave:
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nota bene said:
Horrifically, it took three blows to sever the queen's head.
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Greetings All.:2wave:

This is why it was customary for the condemned person to tip the headsman. The money was intended to encourage a quick, smooth, single stroke execution.:good_job:
 
Henrin said:
We are dealing with state sanctioned serial killers that kill people as their everyday job and you honestly think these people aren't messed up in the head?
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Yes, I honestly think these people aren't messed up in the head. The person who equates this job with being a serial killer is the one that I have more concerns about.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Yes, I honestly think these people aren't messed up in the head. The person who equates this job with being a serial killer is the one that I have more concerns about.
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There is no real difference between killing people with the approval of the state and killing them outside of such approval. These individuals aren't acting in self defense, but doing a job that they were hired to do by the state. Hell, they are contract killers.
 
Henrin said:
We are dealing with state sanctioned serial killers that kill people as their everyday job and you honestly think these people aren't messed up in the head?
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[h=1]“A professional is someone who can do his best work when he doesn't feel like it.”[/h]
--Alistair Cooke:mrgreen:
 
Jack Hays said:
[h=1]“A professional is someone who can do his best work when he doesn't feel like it.”[/h]
--Alistair Cooke:mrgreen:
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They go out of their way to acquire the job. It's not like they're forced into it like they are drafted by the goddamn military or something. They have to make a conscious decision that this is the job they want and everyday they have the choice to walk away, but instead they come back day after day and might very well do the job until retirement. It's like Dexter, but without killing them with a knife,cutting them into pieces, and putting the parts into black bags. Hell, it's even for the same twisted ass reason.
 
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Henrin said:
There is no real difference between killing people with the approval of the state and killing them outside of such approval. These individuals aren't acting in self defense, but doing a job that they were hired to do by the state. Hell, they are contract killers.
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Keep digging
 
CanadaJohn said:
Keep digging
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I'm perfectly content with my argument here. Just like I'm perfectly content calling doctors that do elective abortions contract killers.
 
Henrin said:
They go out of their way to acquire the job. It's not like they're forced into it like they are drafted by the goddamn military or something. They have to make a conscious decision that this is the job they want and everyday they have the choice to walk away, but instead they come back day after day and might very well do the job until retirement. It's like Dexter, but without killing them with a knife,cutting them into pieces, and putting the parts into black bags. Hell, it's even for the same twisted ass reason.
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Or . . . it's like the crew who pick up your trash twice a week, or the crew who paint highways and clean up roadkill, or any number of unglamorous jobs done by fine people on whom we all depend. I'm afraid you alone are bringing the "twisted ass" perspective to this issue.:peace
 
Jack Hays said:
Or . . . it's like the crew who pick up your trash twice a week, or the crew who paint highways and clean up roadkill, or any number of unglamorous jobs done by fine people on whom we all depend. I'm afraid you alone are bringing the "twisted ass" perspective to this issue.:peace
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Trash men or roadkill crews do exactly what that is similar to this? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.
 
nota bene said:
Horrifically, it took three blows to sever the queen's head.
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I can't even begin to imagine the blood splattering! I hope she was unconscious! :eek:

Greetings, nota bene. :2wave:
 
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