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One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows[W:571]

Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

Kobie said:
Obama's bad, but anyone who voted for GWB needs their head examined.
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Let's be honest.

Bush round 1 you are sane.

Bush round 2 you are insane.

Same for Obama.

You are out of your mind to support either of these comical jokes of 'leaders' in round 2.

Furthermore, you may be insane to think 'human' politics can lead to positive effect.

Round 1 we all get a pass.

Round 2 exposes the fools.

Further support of human politic is tantamount to renouncing your humanity.
 
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mak2 said:
Are saying if evolution occured there would only be one primate? No primates? Not sure.
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If humans evolved from monkeys, specifically chimps, then why are there still chimps?
 
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Deuce said:
We don't, but there's no evidence that it did account for something so in a scientific discussion it's not terribly relevant.
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So, you just want to not bother with what you can't explain. That's not very scientific of you.
 
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j-mac said:
If humans evolved from monkeys, specifically chimps, then why are there still chimps?
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Really??? Seriously???? Are you just playing games here? :roll:

How come there are still monkeys? - RationalWiki

Some creationists ask questions like this thinking they've made a real zinger you can't possibly answer, and all of evolution thus falls apart. These have little interest in your answer, let alone in serious discussion of the issue.
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I'm guessing that's all I should need to post, but in the bigger picture....

Evolution is the change in populations, not in individuals.

Evolution is not a process in which species universally progress up a "ladder".

Humans are not descended from any modern species of monkey; both monkeys and humans are descended from some long-extinct ancestor pre-dating both. Although this species, if it were transferred to today, would be considered a "monkey", it is not any living species of monkey.

Evolution explains how humans developed from a primate ancestor, but not an extant species of monkey or ape. (Modern primates include: bonobos, chimpanzees, gorillas, baboons, macaques, lemurs, gibbons, and humans. None of these is a descendant of any other.)

Speciation can occur by branching into two or more reproductively isolated populations (cladogenesis) or when a single population changes over time to such an extent that the later population is considered a different species (anagenesis).
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The question also seems to assume that evolution moves from more simple organisms to more complex ones. Given a simplistic view of evolution, it's easy to assume that humans are more complex than monkeys and that consequently "humans evolved from monkeys". But evolution is about adaptation, and this doesn't necessarily involve an increase in complexity — though increases in complexity are frequently the result of improved adaptation. While modern humans certainly possess intellectual skills far superior to those of modern monkeys, it is by no means clear that their common ancestor was less intelligent — or even more monkey-like — than the modern monkey.
Humans are only "superior" to monkeys in terms of intelligence, and the hidden assumption is that intelligence is a sign that we are the "most evolved". From our anthropomorphic point of view, this makes us superior. However, if we were to classify "most evolved" as meaning "most able to live in trees" then the pinnacle of evolution would be held by monkeys. One could choose any extremely evolved capability to make the same claim—an elephant's trunk for example.
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Honestly....please don't dumb-down evolution to "why are there still monkeys". It's just rather sad and pathetic.
 
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j-mac said:
If humans evolved from monkeys, specifically chimps, then why are there still chimps?
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I'm certainly not an expert on evolution, but I think that it's more like species "branching out" rather than like a monkey actually transforming into a human. :mrgreen:
 
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Kobie said:
Obama's bad, but anyone who voted for GWB needs their head examined.
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Two words. Kerry, Gore
 
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winston53660 said:
Hey let's put a B grade schlock movie actor in office ! That can triple debt!
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yeah the dem congress had nothing to do with that
 
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Yea, that is what I thought you was saying.
j-mac said:
If humans evolved from monkeys, specifically chimps, then why are there still chimps?
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TurtleDude said:
Two words. Kerry, Gore
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If Al Gore had become president, we'd probably all be paying $500 a month for electricity by now.
 
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Kobie said:
Three words: Better Than Bush.
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Apparently not though! :lol:
 
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SingleCellOrganism said:
Let's be honest.

Bush round 1 you are sane.

Bush round 2 you are insane.

Same for Obama.

You are out of your mind to support either of these comical jokes of 'leaders' in round 2.

Furthermore, you may be insane to think 'human' politics can lead to positive effect.

Round 1 we all get a pass.

Round 2 exposes the fools.

Further support of human politic is tantamount to renouncing your humanity.
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I'll still take Obama over Romney, and I think Obama SUCKS.
 
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ChrisL said:
Apparently not though! :lol:
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Gore won that election; Kerry lost by the narrowest of margins.

Either would have been a better president than that disaster. Anyone who thinks Obama is worse than Bush is stupid.
 
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Kobie said:
Gore won that election; Kerry lost by the narrowest of margins.

Either would have been a better president than that disaster. Anyone who thinks Obama is worse than Bush is stupid.
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Oh and I suppose you have a crystal ball that allows you to make such statements? Kerry and Gore are just as much douches as any other politician. They are ALL the same.

Except for the fact that Al Gore had his plans for global warming, which would have made our bills so expensive it would have been nearly impossible to pay them.
 
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ChrisL said:
Oh and I suppose you have a crystal ball that allows you to make such statements? Kerry and Gore are just as much douches as any other politician. They are ALL the same.
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It is very difficult for me to envision a president worse than Bush. Even when it looks like Obama is trying to be worse, he doesn't match up.

ChrisL said:
Except for the fact that Al Gore had his plans for global warming, which would have made our bills so expensive it would have been nearly impossible to pay them.
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What, exactly, do you think he would have done?
 
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ChrisL said:
If Al Gore had become president, we'd probably all be paying $500 a month for electricity by now.
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Yeah, and if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.

Prove your statement or admit you pulled it out of your ass.
 
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j-mac said:
If humans evolved from monkeys, specifically chimps, then why are there still chimps?
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Humans didn't evolve from chimps. We had a common ancestor.

NEXT.
 
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How did this thread get so derailed?

Why are a majority of those who vote for one party rejecting science? That is the question of the day, I think.
 
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Kobie said:
Three words: Better Than Bush.
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LOL-Gore couldn't even win his home state where he had been a long time senator. Kerry was a fraud and his main skill was marrying women worth lots of bucks so he could whine about the rich. and Bush managed to earn the two degrees he sought while Gore failed to complete two of the three he sought and Bush's academic resume was superior to Kerry's as well
 
Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

Kobie said:
Yeah, and if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.

Prove your statement or admit you pulled it out of your ass.
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Prove your statement that Al Gore or John Kerry would have made a better president.
 
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ChrisL said:
Prove your statement that Al Gore or John Kerry would have made a better president.
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They couldn't have been worse.

Prove we'd be paying $500 a month for electricity.
 
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TurtleDude said:
LOL-Gore couldn't even win his home state where he had been a long time senator. Kerry was a fraud and his main skill was marrying women worth lots of bucks so he could whine about the rich. and Bush managed to earn the two degrees he sought while Gore failed to complete two of the three he sought and Bush's academic resume was superior to Kerry's as well
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All that proves is who had a better campaign structure, not who would have been a better president.
 
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Kobie said:
All that proves is who had a better campaign structure, not who would have been a better president.
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Come on!! Al Gore is a hypocritical stuffed suit with no personality. He is a man who screams that the sky is falling (or better yet, the ocean is rising), yet builds a multi-million dollar mansion on the shoreline. Go figure! :lol:
 
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ChrisL said:
Come on!! Al Gore is a hypocritical stuffed suit with no personality.
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So was Calvin Coolidge.

ChrisL said:
He is a man who screams that the sky is falling (or better yet, the ocean is rising), yet builds a multi-million dollar mansion on the shoreline. Go figure! :lol:
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Al Gore's mansion is in Nashville, which last I checked wasn't near the ocean.


EDIT: He also has a place in Montecito, Calif. Also not near the ocean, but closer than Nashville.
 
Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

Kobie said:
So was Calvin Coolidge.



Al Gore's mansion is in Nashville, which last I checked wasn't near the ocean.


EDIT: He also has a place in Montecito, Calif. Also not near the ocean, but closer than Nashville.
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So, what platforms of Al Gore do you support? Why do you think he would have made a good president?
 
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