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One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows[W:571]

Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

obvious Child said:
I'm with powerrob on this.

This seems more of a reaction than an actual belief.

It's "Democrats/Independents/Youth/Minorities/anyone who isn't an old angry white man accepts evolution, therefore I reject it."
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Because that's better? I don't think that's better. Actually I think that's worse. **** this planet.
 
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Dragonfly said:
I'm still enthralled by the notion that "Republicans have grown more skeptical about it".

What exactly is there to be skeptical of?
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Especially since DNA has pretty much cemented the notion of common ancestry during the past decade. It takes a high degree of denial to stick to the party line.
 
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ethanUNC said:
I just read this article. This shows how unbelievably stupid Americans are. Its frightening that acceptance of science is the same rate here as it is in Muslim countries.

Christianity is more detrimental than all of the infectious diseases in the USA.
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The power of the American Taliban is strong.
 
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Deuce said:
Because that's better? I don't think that's better. Actually I think that's worse. **** this planet.
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Rule #1 in any situation.

Don't panic.

It's not as bad as you think. It's a controversial headline made to sell.
 
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calamity said:
The power of the American Taliban is strong.
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These creepy Christians are the reason I am no longer a Republican. At least the dems are mostly sane.
 
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ethanUNC said:
These creepy Christians are the reason I am no longer a Republican. At least the dems are mostly sane.
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The loud ones are the most annoying ones that's for sure. I have a problem with religious folks who want to put their religion in politics but most Christians I know... good and smart people. People whose skin is probably crawling more than yours because it makes them look bad.
 
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poweRob said:
The loud ones are the most annoying ones that's for sure. I have a problem with religious folks who want to put their religion in politics but most Christians I know... good and smart people. People whose skin is probably crawling more than yours because it makes them look bad.
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There is a brand of American Christianist which really does make the more humble Christians look bad. It really is not much different than the Muslims who are peaceful being disgraced by the bomb throwers. It's only a matter of degrees. However, the silence of the sane in both religions is deafening.
 
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poweRob said:
The loud ones are the most annoying ones that's for sure. I have a problem with religious folks who want to put their religion in politics but most Christians I know... good and smart people. People whose skin is probably crawling more than yours because it makes them look bad.
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I would like to clarify that I refer to the fundamentalist Christians.
 
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Dragonfly said:
One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows





Okay - who here rejects evolution?

Show of hands please.


"Republicans" are growing skeptical???? Really?

Like there's growing evidence against evolution?
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I'll repost from an identical thread in the science sub-forum.

I think the decrease is due in large part to the toxic cultural environment we have right now. Our 'culture wars' and the stark ideological divide have become so sharp that people who might have passed this issue over or tacitly accepted the science without giving it much thought are now embracing it because the 'other side' takes the opposite position. We have an innate desire to conform to our peer group, and for people that take politics at a deeply emotional level I think the urge to conform is pretty powerful even if it isn't a fully conscience thought.

-A stalwart Republican
 
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calamity said:
There is a brand of American Christianist which really does make the more humble Christians look bad. It really is not much different than the Muslims who are peaceful being disgraced by the bomb throwers. It's only a matter of degrees. However, the silence of the sane in both religions is deafening.
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Well the sane ones don't buy TV channels which equate to 24/7 infomercials begging for cash by scaring you about hell or declaring they can heal you with their touch... if you just give $X. Those folks should be in jail for fraud IMO.

Unfortunately these ones that should be in jail are the ones that also like to dabble in politics.
 
Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

1/3 seems about right. Start with evangelical Xtians and you're at about 20% of the population. Throw in immigrant catholics and muslims and easy to get to 33%.
 
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Take off your tiara, princess.

ethanUNC said:
I don't think you guys appreciate how bad this truly is.

To give you a comparison, this is as bad as saying that 33% of Americans believe that the Earth orbits the Sun.

I am outraged by this.
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Morton said:
1/3 seems about right. Start with evangelical Xtians and you're at about 20% of the population. Throw in immigrant catholics and muslims and easy to get to 33%.
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I agree. I would have thought the number was closer to 50%. So, 33% is actually not so bad.
 
Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

Dragonfly said:
One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows





Okay - who here rejects evolution?

Show of hands please.


"Republicans" are growing skeptical???? Really?

Like there's growing evidence against evolution?
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On the side of evolution here. There is not a bit of evidence but plenty of evidence that proves live on earth developed through evolution.
 
Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

KevinKohler said:
1/3?


Eh...I find that hard to believe. 1/3 of the people polled, maybe. And maybe that poll was done in Alabama.
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I wish it were so, a Gallup Poll from last year asked 1,024 people the following question:

"Which of the following statements comes closest to your views on the origin and development of human beings? (1) Human beings have developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life, but God guided this process. (2) Human beings have developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life, but God had no part in this process. (3) God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so."

32% said evolution but guided by god

15% said evolution but no guidance from god

46% believed that God created us in our present form within the last 10,000 years or so.

Science and Nature
 
Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

Deuce said:
Because that's better? I don't think that's better. Actually I think that's worse. **** this planet.
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You're right, in some ways it's worse. But in the context of whether they actually believe it or not, I don't think it has anything to do with science. It's just a reactionary position.
 
Re: One-third of Americans reject evolution, poll shows

This is reposted from my response to a similar thread in the science section, but it applies here:

I think there are several reasons for people not to accept evolution (which is regarded as a fundamental law in biology).

1. It is incompatible Christianity and Islam. Both religions depend upon the literal creation of a sinless Adam and Eve, and the fall of man. There are liberal Christians that take a very metaphorical view of scripture, but they are in the minority among committed Christians.

2. Ignorance. A lot of people are simply ignorant of the science behind evolution. (Right Wing Talk Radio Caller: "If we came from monkeys, why are there still monkeys? Riddle me that one scientists.")

3. Some people simply do not like the idea of having evolved from earlier species. They like to think of humanity and thus themselves as the pinnacle of creation. The idea of just being another great ape really bothers them. (think how freaked out they would be to know that chimpanzees are technically more evolved than we are in terms of their genetic adaptions since diverging from our common ancestor)

Of course, we are in fact one of the great apes, and our genome tells us that we should not even being classified in a separate genus than Chimpanzees and Bonobos.

Our true genus has three species:

Homo Troglodytes (Chimps)
Homo Paniscus (Bonobos)
Homo Sapiens

Of our DNA that we actually unitize, it is 99.4% the same as the DNA of Chimps and Bonobos. That just seems to bother some people at a lot, and of those people that it really bothers, they are more likely to be Republican.
 
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ethanUNC said:
These creepy Christians are the reason I am no longer a Republican. At least the dems are mostly sane.
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What - democrats don't go to church or believe in the Bible? It's not a partisan affiliation, you know. My mother's republican and my father (a minister) is a democrat.
 
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SouthernDemocrat said:
This is reposted from my response to a similar thread in the science section, but it applies here:

I think there are several reasons for people not to accept evolution (which is regarded as a fundamental law in biology).

1. It is incompatible Christianity and Islam. Both religions depend upon the literal creation of a sinless Adam and Eve, and the fall of man. There are liberal Christians that take a very metaphorical view of scripture, but they are in the minority among committed Christians.

2. Ignorance. A lot of people are simply ignorant of the science behind evolution. (Right Wing Talk Radio Caller: "If we came from monkeys, why are there still monkeys? Riddle me that one scientists.")

3. Some people simply do not like the idea of having evolved from earlier species. They like to think of humanity and thus themselves as the pinnacle of creation. The idea of just being another great ape really bothers them. (think how freaked out they would be to know that chimpanzees are technically more evolved than we are in terms of their genetic adaptions since diverging from our common ancestor)

Of course, we are in fact one of the great apes, and our genome tells us that we should not even being classified in a separate genus than Chimpanzees and Bonobos.

Our true genus has three species:

Homo Troglodytes (Chimps)
Homo Paniscus (Bonobos)
Homo Sapiens

Of our DNA that we actually unitize, it is 99.4% the same as the DNA of Chimps and Bonobos. That just seems to bother some people at a lot, and of those people that it really bothers, they are more likely to be Republican.
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Yep. I can hear Sean Hannity mocking you already, "He'd have you think we were no better than Bonobos."

Heads nodding and fists pumping. Audience members run to the phones to affirm Sean's comments.

It is tough to compete against emotion with reason.
 
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Its amazing really when you think America has been the leaders in science for decades now, put computers in our homes, helped invent the internet and put a man on the moon. It's easy to how diverse a country America really is in terms of the population.
 
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1/3rd of Americans are just plain stupid.

Science is there, the facts are there, but so are the stupid religionists who reject data and want to live in a sheltered, ignorant dream world.
 
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1/3 of Americans probably didn't descend from amoebic slime.
 
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Wrong. The majority of Xtians do not believe in the literal interpretation of scripture.

SouthernDemocrat said:
This is reposted from my response to a similar thread in the science section, but it applies here:

I think there are several reasons for people not to accept evolution (which is regarded as a fundamental law in biology).

1. It is incompatible Christianity and Islam. Both religions depend upon the literal creation of a sinless Adam and Eve, and the fall of man. There are liberal Christians that take a very metaphorical view of scripture, but they are in the minority among committed Christians.

2. Ignorance. A lot of people are simply ignorant of the science behind evolution. (Right Wing Talk Radio Caller: "If we came from monkeys, why are there still monkeys? Riddle me that one scientists.")

3. Some people simply do not like the idea of having evolved from earlier species. They like to think of humanity and thus themselves as the pinnacle of creation. The idea of just being another great ape really bothers them. (think how freaked out they would be to know that chimpanzees are technically more evolved than we are in terms of their genetic adaptions since diverging from our common ancestor)

Of course, we are in fact one of the great apes, and our genome tells us that we should not even being classified in a separate genus than Chimpanzees and Bonobos.

Our true genus has three species:

Homo Troglodytes (Chimps)
Homo Paniscus (Bonobos)
Homo Sapiens

Of our DNA that we actually unitize, it is 99.4% the same as the DNA of Chimps and Bonobos. That just seems to bother some people at a lot, and of those people that it really bothers, they are more likely to be Republican.
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SouthernDemocrat said:
This is reposted from my response to a similar thread in the science section, but it applies here:

I think there are several reasons for people not to accept evolution (which is regarded as a fundamental law in biology).

1. It is incompatible Christianity and Islam. Both religions depend upon the literal creation of a sinless Adam and Eve, and the fall of man. There are liberal Christians that take a very metaphorical view of scripture, but they are in the minority among committed Christians.

2. Ignorance. A lot of people are simply ignorant of the science behind evolution. (Right Wing Talk Radio Caller: "If we came from monkeys, why are there still monkeys? Riddle me that one scientists.")

3. Some people simply do not like the idea of having evolved from earlier species. They like to think of humanity and thus themselves as the pinnacle of creation. The idea of just being another great ape really bothers them. (think how freaked out they would be to know that chimpanzees are technically more evolved than we are in terms of their genetic adaptions since diverging from our common ancestor)

Of course, we are in fact one of the great apes, and our genome tells us that we should not even being classified in a separate genus than Chimpanzees and Bonobos.

Our true genus has three species:

Homo Troglodytes (Chimps)
Homo Paniscus (Bonobos)
Homo Sapiens

Of our DNA that we actually unitize, it is 99.4% the same as the DNA of Chimps and Bonobos. That just seems to bother some people at a lot, and of those people that it really bothers, they are more likely to be Republican.
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Chimps and Bonobos are genus Pan. Family Hominidae, maybe that's what you mean.
You're probably right about why the close relationship bothers people, though. Hell, we share DNA with yeast.
 
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poweRob said:
I keep saying this quote or paraphrased versions of it but...

Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects. --- Will Rogers​
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"No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public."
-PT Barnum-
 
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