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'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

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Excon said:
Then you should be able to find and show a similar viewership drop around each time every year.
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I probably could if I cared enough to look, I don't, and I don't watch the show in question
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

AGENT J said:
translation: you STILL have no facts or links that make your already proven wrong statements true.

1.) no game, please stay on topic.
you attacked my factually accurate statements about the topic and called it wrong which they have been proven true, Then made two proven wrong statements. I asked you if you disagree to please provide any facts and links that support you like i did. You keep dodging that request because you know your two statements were factually wrong.

2.) what facts? you havent provided any, not one, i gave facts and links that prove your statements wrong, if you disagree simply provide facts the prove your statments true and stop deflecting and trying to make the topic about me, im not the topic.

facts destroy your post and statements again

your two false statements:
"Stating they are sins, is not making a comparison."
"and you would also be wrong if you are asserting that he equated the two behaviors"

Facts links and the definitions of the word comparison and equate all prove your statements factually wrong. He 100% did compare them and equate them.

As always please stay on topic, remain civil and simply address the issue, provide your FACTS now or admit both your statements are factually wrong.
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Translation: You have been caught.
You are still factually wrong and playing your little dishonest game.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

Rocketman said:
I probably could if I cared enough to look, I don't, and I don't watch the show in question
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I doubt you could, as their viewership has been pretty steady.
But I do not watch it either. Never saw one show.
Have no plans to.

You can find individual reports of their viewership here.
Duck Dynasty - TVbytheNumbers


Per the previous article.
Season 4 premier of the show garnered 11.8 million viewers
 
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re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

Excon said:
Translation: You have been caught.
You are still factually wrong and playing your little dishonest game.
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so again you try to make it about me and not the topic. AGAIN PLEASE STAY ON TOPIC.

ANyway we will be here waiting, when you can support your two factually proven wrong statements please let us know. I provided links, facts and definitions that prove your statements wrong. Remind us what do you have again? Thanks.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

AGENT J said:
so again you try to make it about me and not the topic. AGAIN PLEASE STAY ON TOPIC.

ANyway we will be here waiting, when you can support your two factually proven wrong statements please let us know. I provided links, facts and definitions that prove your statements wrong. Remind us what do you have again? Thanks.
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You being factual incorrect is as much about you as the topic.
I can't change that.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

Excon said:
You being factual incorrect is as much about you as the topic.
I can't change that.
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another post and no facts, links or definition to back up your two proven false statement. Let us know when you can.
 
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AGENT J said:
another post and no facts, links or definition to back up your two proven false statement. Let us know when you can.
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The only one to have been proven to have made false statements was you.
You dishonestly argued that which was not, and as shown that there was no comparison made between the two behaviors of that being complained about.
You have been factually proven to be wrong.
Carry on J.
 
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Excon said:
The only one to have been proven to have made false statements was you.
You dishonestly argued that which was not, and as shown that there was no comparison made between the two behaviors of that being complained about.
You have been factually proven to be wrong.
Carry on J.
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again simply post the prove, links, facts and definitions to support your false statments? we are waiting

FACTS:
your two statements are wrong.
"Stating they are sins, is not making a comparison."
"and you would also be wrong if you are asserting that he equated the two behaviors"

He 100% did compare them and equate them.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

scatt said:
Endorsement of his comments happens like this, and only like this, "we endorse what he said in so-and-so interview or speech." Or if they want to make sure, they say, "we do not endorse what he said in so-and-so interview or speech." And then because of that, doing the following of also suspending him and removing him from the show, and from the show next season. Because if they pretend they are against his views, but continue to make money because of him, knowingly and on purpose, they are hypocrites and completely full of it.

This is completely different from suspending him and then keeping him in the show, planning to show the next season with him in it, and running not one but so far two DD marathons since it happened.
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No, it does not happen only like that. Doing nothing implies approval. Suspending him, penalizing for causing controversy, serves two purposes. Viewers who are offended feel he has payed a price. Phil is also not likely to do it again.

Corporations do what is in the interest of their bottom line. They are and have always been hypocritical. Nothing new under the sun there.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

Excon said:
A 71% drop.

According to the latest television ratings numbers, “Duck Dynasty,” which held the top spot on cable television’s list with 8.885 million viewers in weeks prior, dropped to only 2.521 million viewers overnight. That’s a 71.6% decrease, enough to prove to A&E that their decision will have serious implications on their viewership.
'Duck Dynasty' Ratings Plummet After A&E Boycott - Wide Open Spaces​

While I am sure it is temporary, it was a great loss.


Yes.
Websites, Facebook pages, and petitions.
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That show. As I said, if they have become the DD network and the temporary loss of viewers of that show is a greater hit to revenue than losing their brand (which is more than A & E network) then they will make amends to that demographic.
 
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AGENT J said:
again simply post the prove, links, facts and definitions to support your false statments? we are waiting

FACTS:
your two statements are wrong.
"Stating they are sins, is not making a comparison."
"and you would also be wrong if you are asserting that he equated the two behaviors"

He 100% did compare them and equate them.
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Fact: You were already told that they both being sins was not the comparison being discussed or the alleged comparison that has folks in an uproar.
You assumed and were wrong because of the assumption
He did not equate homosexuality to bestiality. Saying so is a lie. He made no such comparison.
He said they were sins. That is all.
 
jmotivator said:
You are sadly showing your ignorance once again.

Video Here of the statement in context

The advice he was giving in that passage was to a young man he met, not to the audience. Stop being an idiot.



Add "lie" to the long list of words that Calamity doesn't understand. You are the one spinning.
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nonsense.

...in fact, judging by his love of Salt Lake City over Chicago, I'd say the Mormon envy in Phil is strong. Maybe in his next life he can come back and be FLDS.
 
Excon said:
1.)Fact: You were already told that they both being sins was not the comparison being discussed or the alleged comparison that has folks in an uproar.
2.) You assumed and were wrong because of the assumption
3.) He did not equate homosexuality to bestiality. Saying so is a lie.
4.)He made no such comparison.
He said they were sins. That is all.
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another post and ZERO facts, links and definitions to support you

1.) meaningless to the fact bothyour statements were wrong and meaningless to the accuracy of my statement
2.) made no such assumption anywhere, this is 100% false if you disagree point out this FACTUAL assumption and quote me, you will not be able to because your statement is made up
3.) nope as proven by his own statements and the definition of the words he factually did, would you like the proof again
4.) see #4
5.) yep which is by definition a comparison and a equation, this fact will never change

FACTS:
your two statements are wrong.
"Stating they are sins, is not making a comparison."
"and you would also be wrong if you are asserting that he equated the two behaviors"

PROOF:

Comparison
: the act of suggesting that two or more things are similar or in the same category
Comparison - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

he put them all in the same category thus factually comparing them

: to treat, represent, or regard as equal, equivalent, or comparable
Equate - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

he did treat them, represent them and regard them as comparable sins

Facts, links and definitions destroy your two statements and prove them wrong, as always, I ASK AGAIN, if you disagree simply post any facts you have that prove otherwise
 
calamity said:
nonsense.

...in fact, judging by his love of Salt Lake City over Chicago, I'd say the Mormon envy in Phil is strong. Maybe in his next life he can come back and be FLDS.
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You can't spin the line any longer given the context so you now try and change the subject to Mormons for some reason.

You have lost, please learn to do so gracefully.
 
jmotivator said:
1. You can't spin the line any longer given the context so you now try and change the subject to Mormons for some reason.


2. You have lost, please learn to do so gracefully.
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1. Some reason?
Phil Robertson Was No Fan of Chicago, Either | NBC Chicago
TV star Phil Robertson, who was yanked from the popular A&E program "Duck Dynasty" this week after making disparaging remarks about homosexuality, has previously had some unkind things to say about Chicago.
"If I'm lost at three o'clock in a major metropolitan area...I ask myself: Where would I rather be trying to walk with my wife and children?" he said in explaining why he voted for Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney in 2012. "One of the guys who's running for president is out of Chicago, Illinois, and the other one is from Salt Lake City, Utah. Where would I rather be turned around at three o'clock in the morning? I opted for Salt Lake City. I think it would be safer."
Romney, it should be noted, is originally from Boston.


Source: Phil Robertson Was No Fan of Chicago, Either | NBC Chicago
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Phil is apparently so ignorant, he thinks all Mormons are from SLC Utah. :lol:

2. Sorry, but you defending Phil's quote stating that 20-year-old females will pick your pocket and are bad options for marriage but fifteen and sixteen year-olds are A-OK is such a lost cause, you really ought just back away. Unless, of course, you want to reinforce the stereotype about redneck Christians thinking a woman should be barefoot pregnant and ignorant. Not to mention, insulting all women who are in their twenties out there. :lol:
 
AGENT J said:
another post and ZERO facts, links and definitions to support you

1.) meaningless to the fact bothyour statements were wrong and meaningless to the accuracy of my statement
2.) made no such assumption anywhere, this is 100% false if you disagree point out this FACTUAL assumption and quote me, you will not be able to because your statement is made up
3.) nope as proven by his own statements and the definition of the words he factually did, would you like the proof again
4.) see #4
5.) yep which is by definition a comparison and a equation, this fact will never change

FACTS:
your two statements are wrong.
"Stating they are sins, is not making a comparison."
"and you would also be wrong if you are asserting that he equated the two behaviors"

PROOF:

Comparison
: the act of suggesting that two or more things are similar or in the same category
Comparison - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

he put them all in the same category thus factually comparing them

: to treat, represent, or regard as equal, equivalent, or comparable
Equate - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

he did treat them, represent them and regard them as comparable sins

Facts, links and definitions destroy your two statements and prove them wrong, as always, I ASK AGAIN, if you disagree simply post any facts you have that prove otherwise
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Another post with zero relevant information. :doh


Fact: You were already told that they both being sins was not the comparison being discussed or the alleged comparison that has folks in an uproar.
You assumed and were wrong because of the assumption
He did not equate homosexuality to bestiality. Saying so is a lie. He made no such comparison.
He said they were sins. That is all.
 
Gina said:
Ummmm...the controversy he sparked???? Obviously A & E considers there is damage to the brand or they wouldn't have suspended him. There is nothing wrong with an employer holding their employee to the terms of their employment. If A & E didn't feel it has the high legal ground, there wouldn't have been an action.
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The only one hurting A&E is A&E.

GLAAD supporters don't even watch the show! So what if they get mad...lol!
 
scatt said:
His being suspended has harmed A&E. Does that count?
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Oh, I get it, now! Robertson forced A&E to fire him and that's hurting A&E.

Are we on the same page? ;)
 
Excon said:
1.) Another post with zero relevant information. :doh


2.)Fact: You were already told that they both being sins was not the comparison being discussed or the alleged comparison that has folks in an uproar.
3.)You assumed and were wrong because of the assumption
4.)He did not equate homosexuality to bestiality. Saying so is a lie. He made no such comparison.
5.)He said they were sins. That is all.
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FACTS:
your two statements are wrong.
"Stating they are sins, is not making a comparison."
"and you would also be wrong if you are asserting that he equated the two behaviors"

PROOF:

Comparison
: the act of suggesting that two or more things are similar or in the same category
Comparison - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

he put them all in the same category thus factually comparing them

: to treat, represent, or regard as equal, equivalent, or comparable
Equate - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

he did treat them, represent them and regard them as comparable sins

Facts, links and definitions destroy your two statements and prove them wrong, as always, I ASK AGAIN, if you disagree simply post any facts you have that prove otherwise and simply quote me making the assumptions made up
 
A & E warned him and then A & E Caves.

As it turns out, taking the side of the fringe minority was the wrong decsiion all along.
 
AGENT J said:
FACTS:
your two statements are wrong.
"Stating they are sins, is not making a comparison."
"and you would also be wrong if you are asserting that he equated the two behaviors"

PROOF:

Comparison
: the act of suggesting that two or more things are similar or in the same category
Comparison - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

he put them all in the same category thus factually comparing them

: to treat, represent, or regard as equal, equivalent, or comparable
Equate - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

he did treat them, represent them and regard them as comparable sins

Facts, links and definitions destroy your two statements and prove them wrong, as always, I ASK AGAIN, if you disagree simply post any facts you have that prove otherwise and simply quote me making the assumptions made up
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Another post devoid of the relevant facts.

Context and meaning of what was said is everything here.
The constant ignoring of that makes your postings wrong.



So again.
Fact: You were already told that they both being sins was not the comparison being discussed or the alleged comparison that has folks in an uproar.
You assumed and were wrong because of the assumption
He did not equate homosexuality to bestiality. Saying so is a lie. He made no such comparison.
He said they were sins. That is all.
 
Lovebug said:
He is back in. Great news for the family and for their supporters.
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Fenton said:
A & E warned him and then A & E Caves.

As it turns out, taking the side of the fringe minority was the wrong decsiion all along.
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Accept for those who absurdly suggested he equated homosexuality to bestiality when he didn't; Did anyone really doubt it after the backlash against A&E and Gladd, and the outpouring of support he received?
 
Excon said:
1.)Another post devoid of the relevant facts.

Context and meaning of what was said is everything here.
The constant ignoring of that makes your postings wrong.



So again.
Fact: You were already told that they both being sins was not the comparison being discussed or the alleged comparison that has folks in an uproar.
You assumed and were wrong because of the assumption
He did not equate homosexuality to bestiality. Saying so is a lie. He made no such comparison.
He said they were sins. That is all.
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FACTS:

no content in MY conversation was ignored, if you disagree post factual proof
no assumption were made by ME, if you disagree post factual proof

your two statements are wrong.
"Stating they are sins, is not making a comparison."
"and you would also be wrong if you are asserting that he equated the two behaviors"

PROOF:


Comparison
: the act of suggesting that two or more things are similar or in the same category
Comparison - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

he put them all in the same category thus factually comparing them

: to treat, represent, or regard as equal, equivalent, or comparable
Equate - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

he did treat them, represent them and regard them as comparable sins

Facts, links and definitions destroy your two statements and prove them wrong, as always, I ASK AGAIN, if you disagree simply post any facts you have that prove otherwise and simply quote me making the assumptions made up
 
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