'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

calamity · Dec 25, 2013

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j-mac said:
Bull, you conflate to make yourself feel better about the lies being told about this man.

Nonsense. It's clear that Robertson is saying "Blacks can't handle freedom." What else is he saying, when he says they were happier before civil rights?

paddymcdougall · Dec 25, 2013

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Excon said:
Stop brushing with a broad brush.
He was speaking about his own personal experience, which should not offend anyone.

To you, and all with similar arguments - you have taken his quotes and made an extremely generous assessment of them. That's your prerogative. The rest of us will remain appalled.

paddymcdougall · Dec 25, 2013

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Excon said:
Show he knows what that specific genre encompasses.

And frankly, in April of 54 he was 8 years old.
Give his personal recollection a break.

Elvis may have heard the blues being sung 12 years earlier at that age, but I doubt Phil did, or if Phil did, knew what he was hearing.

so wait - he was working in the cotton fields at the age of 8? seriously? I'm doubting he spent much time out there.

mak2 · Dec 25, 2013

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I remember hearing this as a kid. They cant handle freedom, they was happier when they was slaves. Typical Klanner talk.

calamity said:
Nonsense. It's clear that Robertson is saying "Blacks can't handle freedom." What else is he saying, when he says they were happier before civil rights?

Excon · Dec 25, 2013

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paddymcdougall said:
To you, and all with similar arguments - you have taken his quotes and made an extremely generous assessment of them. That's your prerogative. The rest of us will remain appalled.

:doh
Not even.
Your assessments of have been way off base and are manifestations of your own biases.

paddymcdougall said:
so wait - he was working in the cotton fields at the age of 8? seriously? I'm doubting he spent much time out there.

I didn't say that is when he was. It is a general stating point.
8 in 54
9 in 55
10 in 56
11 in 57
12 in 58

When do you think he was out there working in the cotton field?
Maybe in the Civil Rights era?
Are you catching on now?

Excon · Dec 25, 2013

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calamity said:
Nonsense. It's clear that Robertson is saying "Blacks can't handle freedom." What else is he saying, when he says they were happier before civil rights?

Where do you folks come up with this ****?

He never said the were happier before civil rights.
And what you said is nothing but a manifestation of your own ridiculously biased thoughts.

Boo Radley · Dec 25, 2013

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Excon said:
It does not support you claim at all.

The above is nothing more than the manifestations of your biased thoughts.

Follow. He made the comparison; not me. So, think.

Boo Radley · Dec 25, 2013

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Excon said:
That is not the context.
That is how the author chose to frame it.
Phil was not speaking about Pre civil anything. He was speaking about his personal experience.
There is no connection between what he said and any connotations you wish to absurdly assert.

No, it's context. He compares then to now. Context.

calamity · Dec 25, 2013

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Excon said:
Where do you folks come up with this ****?

He never said the were happier before civil rights.
And what you said is nothing but a manifestation of your own ridiculously biased thoughts.

You obviously have a unique interpretation of this

"I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person. Not once," the reality star said of growing up in pre-Civil-Rights-era Louisiana. "Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I'm with the blacks, because we're white trash. We're going across the field ... They're singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, 'I tell you what: These doggone white people' — not a word!"

Robertson continued, "Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues."

...because most people see those statements exactly for what they are--"Blacks were happier before they could vote and stuff."

Boo Radley · Dec 25, 2013

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calamity said:
You obviously have a unique interpretation of this

...because most people see those statements exactly for what they are--"Blacks were happier before they could vote and stuff."

Yep. The. They were happier than now.

Excon · Dec 25, 2013

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Boo Radley said:
No, it's context. He compares then to now. Context.

:doh
He was answering a question. He made no comparison.

Boo Radley said:
Follow. He made the comparison; not me. So, think.

Wrong. You made it.
As I said; "Nothing more than the manifestations of your biased thoughts."
He spoke about his personal experience at that time. Nothing more.

Boo Radley said:
Excon said:

No it is not enough. An assumption is never enough when a definitive is asked for.
You were specifically asked to provided said information to back up your claim and you repeatably fail.

Click to expand...

Reported. Not assumed.

Wrong.
Assumed.
You are even assuming this statement is true without any supporting evidence.

"We're also told that the contracts have morality clauses that give the network the right to get rid of cast members -- "

Of course you are assuming and not providing the proof when asked.

calamity said:
You obviously have a unique interpretation of this

...because most people see those statements exactly for what they are--"Blacks were happier before they could vote and stuff."

What the **** are you talking about?
Your interpretation is what is uniquely wrong.
Most folks do not see the manifestations of your ridiculously biased thoughts.

calamity said:
link?

Link?
The link to your lie, as well as your lie, is in the quote box.

Boo Radley · Dec 25, 2013

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Excon said:
:doh
He was answering a question. He made no comparison.

Wrong. You made it.
As I said; "Nothing more than the manifestations of your biased thoughts."
He spoke about his personal experience at that time. Nothing more.

Wrong.
Assumed.
You are even assuming this statement is true without any supporting evidence.
"We're also told that the contracts have morality clauses that give the network the right to get rid of cast members -- "
Of course you are assuming and not providing the proof when asked.

What the **** are you talking about?
Your interpretation is what is uniquely wrong.
Most folks do not see the manifestations of your ridiculously biased thoughts.

Link?
The link to your lie, as well as your lie, is in the quote box.

You are factually wrong. That was then a pond this now. He made a comparison.

Excon · Dec 25, 2013

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Boo Radley said:
You are factually wrong. That was then a pond this now. He made a comparison.

That would be you who is factually wrong. He was answering a question. He made no comparison.
That is all in your head.

Boo Radley · Dec 25, 2013

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Excon said:
That would be you who is factually wrong. He was answering a question. He made no comparison.
That is all in your head.

The question was about that time period. The answer was they were happy back then (a time of oppression), unlike now. That us a comparison.

Excon · Dec 25, 2013

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Boo Radley said:
The question was about that time period. The answer was they were happy back then (a time of oppression), unlike now. That us a comparison.

That is all in your head.
He made no comparison. He was asked of his personal experience of that time.

He answered without any comparison.

"Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues."

Boo Radley · Dec 25, 2013

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Excon said:
That is all in your head.
He made no comparison. He was asked of his personal experience of that time.

He answered without any comparison.

"Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues."

See the comparison? It's clear in what you quoted. He has his time frame off, but the comparison is clear right there.

Excon · Dec 25, 2013

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Boo Radley said:
See the comparison? It's clear in what you quoted. He has his time frame off, but the comparison is clear right there.

You are seeing things. He made no comparison.

calamity · Dec 25, 2013

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Excon said:
:doh
He was answering a question. He made no comparison.

Wrong. You made it.
As I said; "Nothing more than the manifestations of your biased thoughts."
He spoke about his personal experience at that time. Nothing more.

Wrong.
Assumed.
You are even assuming this statement is true without any supporting evidence.

"We're also told that the contracts have morality clauses that give the network the right to get rid of cast members -- "
Of course you are assuming and not providing the proof when asked.

What the **** are you talking about?
Your interpretation is what is uniquely wrong.
Most folks do not see the manifestations of your ridiculously biased thoughts.

Not at all. He's saying Blacks were happier before civil rights. That's either retarded or super racist. Not much left after that in other options.

Link?
The link to your lie, as well as your lie, is in the quote box.

Prove it was a lie.

paddymcdougall · Dec 25, 2013

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Excon said:
I didn't say that is when he was. It is a general stating point.
8 in 54
9 in 55
10 in 56
11 in 57
12 in 58

When do you think he was out there working in the cotton field?
Maybe in the Civil Rights era?
Are you catching on now?

Since he said "I hoed cotton with them." my guess he is was just lying. Or "making up a story" if you prefer. He was probably never out in the field hoeing cotton with "happy black people".

Boo Radley · Dec 25, 2013

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Excon said:
You are seeing things. He made no comparison.

Pre means before. He gives two time periods (though he makes a huge mistake on them) and say during Jim Crow, happy. After not. That us a comparison. This is simple. You're willfully ignoring what's right there for all to see.

paddymcdougall · Dec 25, 2013

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Boo Radley said:
Pre means before. He gives two time periods (though he makes a huge mistake on them) and say during Jim Crow, happy. After not. That us a comparison. This is simple. You're willfully ignoring what's right there for all to see.

I hate to say it, but it seems like Excon doesn't have very good reading comprehension skills. I hope you can clarify Excon's thinking, I'm just not expecting much.

calamity · Dec 25, 2013

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Excon said:
That is all in your head.
He made no comparison. He was asked of his personal experience of that time.

He answered without any comparison.

"Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues."

First of all, it's retarded because the Blues were invented right around that time.

Second of all it's racist because he is talking about Blacks like they are a puppy dog or something. I mean, think about it. How would you feel if someone said about you that you were happier before you had the right to make your own decisions?

Boo Radley · Dec 25, 2013

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calamity said:
First of all, it's retarded because the Blues were invented right around that time.

Second of all it's racist because he is talking about Blacks like they are a puppy dog or something. I mean, think about it. How would you feel if someone said about you that you were happier before you had the right to make your own decisions?

Phil is factually challenged, true.

Excon · Dec 26, 2013

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calamity said:
Not at all. He's saying Blacks were happier before civil rights. That's either retarded or super racist. Not much left after that in other options.

No he isn't saying any such thing.
That is an absurd take on his answer to a question.

calamity said:
Prove it was a lie.

:naughty
The onus is on you to prove your claim true, not on me to prove it untrue.
As it stands, it is nothing more than a lie.

calamity said:
First of all, it's retarded because the Blues were invented right around that time.

First of all? :doh :lamo
First of all you are being ridiculous with such a claim.
He was speaking of his own personal experience.
And the blues being invented many years earlier has nothing to do with supporting your ridiculous claim.

Excon said:
Are the songs you consider blues, the same as what he thought were the blues and never heard?
What was that? You don't know?
Go figure.

Or do you know if they never sang the blues because he just happened to be around happy folks?
Do you know?

Excon said:
Show he knows what that specific genre encompasses.

And frankly, in April of 54 he was 8 years old.
Give his personal recollection a break.

Elvis may have heard the blues being sung 12 years earlier at that age, but I doubt Phil did, or if Phil did, knew what he was hearing.

calamity said:
Second of all it's racist because he is talking about Blacks like they are a puppy dog or something. I mean, think about it. How would you feel if someone said about you that you were happier before you had the right to make your own decisions?

He never said any such thing.

This is nothing more than the manifestations of your convoluted and biased thoughts.

Excon · Dec 26, 2013

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paddymcdougall said:
Since he said "I hoed cotton with them." my guess he is was just lying. Or "making up a story" if you prefer. He was probably never out in the field hoeing cotton with "happy black people".

Okay. So you got nothing other than disbelief. Figures.

paddymcdougall said:
I hate to say it, but it seems like Excon doesn't have very good reading comprehension skills. I hope you can clarify Excon's thinking, I'm just not expecting much.

It is your comprehension skills in question here.
They clearly are unlearned.

Boo Radley said:
Pre means before. He gives two time periods (though he makes a huge mistake on them) and say during Jim Crow, happy. After not. That us a comparison. This is simple. You're willfully ignoring what's right there for all to see.

This is simple. He did not make any such comparison.
You are willfully ignoring that he was answering a question of a specific time period in his life.

That is not making a comparison.

You are choosing to see that which is not there. That is a product of your own biases.

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