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'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

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apdst said:
He was quoting the Bible, not stating his own opinion.
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He did both. Blacks being happy being second class was not in the bible.
 
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apdst said:
They shouldn't have been fired, either.

What's next? Get fired voting the wrong way? We have the right to vote; we do not have the right to be exempt from the concequences?
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You don't vote in public.
 
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Boo Radley said:
He did both. Blacks being happy being second class was not in the bible.
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I don't think that was in the same interview.
 
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apdst said:
I don't think that was in the same interview.
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I believe it was. Both comments were talked about when discussing that interview last week.
 
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Boo Radley said:
I believe it was. Both comments were talked about when discussing that interview last week.
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You're right and here is what he actually said, not the totally misquoted bull**** that's been posted, here...

"... Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I’m with the blacks, because we’re white trash. We’re going across the field.... They’re singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, ‘I tell you what: These doggone white people’—not a word!... Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues.”

I'm sure he must be mistaken, because black folks are much happier now with black on black crime being what it is, the drug epidemic within the black community and 50% of black men are unemployed.
 
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Just for consistencies sake and to better understand people's argument....

So those of you who claim he equates homosexuality to beastiality also believe he equates drunkedness and being greedy to beastiality as well?
 
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Boo Radley said:
You don't vote in public.
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I don't have to fear for my job if I tell my boss who I voted for, either. Or, would you be ok with my boss ****-canning me for telling him who I voted for, or for being seen at the wrong political rally?
 
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Boo Radley said:
He did both. Blacks being happy being second class was not in the bible.
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Sure it was.

5 Slaves, you must obey your earthly masters. Show them great respect and be as loyal to them as you are to Christ. 6 Try to please them at all times, and not just when you think they are watching. You are slaves of Christ, so with your whole heart you must do what God wants you to do. 7 Gladly serve your masters, as though they were the Lord himself, and not simply people. 8 You know that you will be rewarded for any good things you do, whether you are slaves or free.
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Ephesians 6:5-8 - Slaves, obey your earthly masters with - Bible Gateway
 
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jmotivator said:
Yes, he was talking about sins in the FULL quote, but what has people's panties in a wad was that he compared homosexuality with bestiality as one of the various sexual sins (including sex outside of marriage).
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He did not compare anything.

People want to believe he did for their own personal reasons whatever they may be.
 
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Boo Radley said:
He did both. Blacks being happy being second class was not in the bible.
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He was relaying his experience. You can't take that away from him.
 
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apdst said:
You're right and here is what he actually said, not the totally misquoted bull**** that's been posted, here...

"... Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I’m with the blacks, because we’re white trash. We’re going across the field.... They’re singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, ‘I tell you what: These doggone white people’—not a word!... Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues.”

I'm sure he must be mistaken, because black folks are much happier now with black on black crime being what it is, the drug epidemic within the black community and 50% of black men are unemployed.
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He was telling of his experience and nobody can call him a liar over that.
 
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apdst said:
I don't have to fear for my job if I tell my boss who I voted for, either. Or, would you be ok with my boss ****-canning me for telling him who I voted for, or for being seen at the wrong political rally?
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If you worked for the DNC and voted for Romney, maybe you might get some ****.
 
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jmotivator said:
Bruce Bawer is an interesting case in point here. He is a gay man who spent much of his writing career attacking American Christians for their opposition to homosexuality. He was so offended by American Christians that he pulled up stakes and moved to Europe where he felt he an his partner would be better treated. It was then that he ran into the Islamist culture in Europe. It forced him to rethink his feelings about Americans and American Christianity. He wrote a book titled WHILE EUROPE SLEPT to document the growing Islamist movement in Europe that is as vocal as evangelical Christians, but is both violent and ignored because it comes from a liberal protected class: Muslims.

In it he has the realization that Jerry Fallwell only objected to him and his partner marrying, the Islamists of Europe wanted to drop a wall on him.
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calamity said:
Why would I 'splain or defend barbarism?


So, suggesting that people are hiding behind their Christian religion to disparage a class of people, like is done to the gays, you see it as "VERBALLY ATTACKING A CLASS OF PEOPLE"? Got it.
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You don't have anything
No one is hiding behind their religion especially not Phil Robertson.
 
re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

jmotivator said:
Bruce Bawer is an interesting case in point here. He is a gay man who spent much of his writing career attacking American Christians for their opposition to homosexuality. He was so offended by American Christians that he pulled up stakes and moved to Europe where he felt he an his partner would be better treated. It was then that he ran into the Islamist culture in Europe. It forced him to rethink his feelings about Americans and American Christianity. He wrote a book titled WHILE EUROPE SLEPT to document the growing Islamist movement in Europe that is as vocal as evangelical Christians, but is both violent and ignored because it comes from a liberal protected class: Muslims.

In it he has the realization that Jerry Fallwell only objected to him and his partner marrying, the Islamists of Europe wanted to drop a wall on him.
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Zyphlin said:
Just for consistencies sake and to better understand people's argument....

So those of you who claim he equates homosexuality to beastiality also believe he equates drunkedness and being greedy to beastiality as well?
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Sins they are....IMO only guilty consciences equate.8)
 
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disneydude said:
Sorry Digs...but being intolerant of intolerance is neither intolerance nor bigotry.
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Then to expand on that, who made pointing out obvious sin ....intolerance? Would that be political correctness?
 
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Mason66 said:
The subject was sin not homosexuality. Dos it make more sense now?
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Apparently many here don't speak or understand 'redneck' 8)
 
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Perotista said:
So be it, that is their choice. Mine is to either watch Mr. Duck or not. Since I have never watched the program and never had a desire to do so, I am not going to watch it now or not watch it for whatever reason GLAAD or the NCAACP wants me to stop watching it. As it stands now, this whole things has brought a ton of free publicity to the program and probably made the program more popular than ever. For those in the movie, show or TV business there is no such thing as bad publicity, it is when there is none that those folks start to worry.pop

I hear A&E will be running a ton of reruns of Mr. Duck this week, this is just what they needed. More viewers because of all this publicity.
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Yep..watched about 6 episodes in a row last night with my MIL who had never seen it. She LHAO!
 
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Fletch said:
Listing sins isn't necessarily equating them. Lying is a sin, for example, as is murder, but listing them together as sins does not mean they are equal sins. Not sure why that is so hard to grasp.

More importantly. why couldn't AE just put out a disclaimer that this mans views do not represent their network and let it go at that? Not sure why the left is so intent upon adopting this fascist intolerance of any view not in line with their own. So the guy doesn't like homos and thinks what they do is sin. If that bothers you, don't watch the show. People should be allowed to be stupid and have every right to be racist or wrong headed in their views.
Demanding that anyone who doesn't tow the political PC line be drawn and quartered is just fascist style intolerance.
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When and where did anyone on the left demand that anyone be 'drawn and quartered'?

I don't believe that this actually happened.

If you have some reliable proof of this you should post it.

If not you should retract your statement.
 
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DiAnna said:
Where's the danged outrage for all those rotten "libbos" who were fired (and rightfully so) after exercising their First Amendment rights to insult and excoriate various people and ideologies? I'm thinking Martin Bashir, Mark Halperin, Alec Baldwin, Keith Olbermann, and all the others who were let go after their employer exercised it's right to fire their asses after considerable outrage from conservatives and others over their insulting remarks.

We all have the right to free speech; we do not have a right to be exempt from the consequences of it.
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I agree with you (sorta), but why is the response always "where was the outrage"? Is one instance of a "wrong" any less a "wrong" because another "wrong" occurred?
 
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DiAnna said:
Where's the danged outrage for all those rotten "libbos" who were fired (and rightfully so) after exercising their First Amendment rights to insult and excoriate various people and ideologies? I'm thinking Martin Bashir, Mark Halperin, Alec Baldwin, Keith Olbermann, and all the others who were let go after their employer exercised it's right to fire their asses after considerable outrage from conservatives and others over their insulting remarks.

We all have the right to free speech; we do not have a right to be exempt from the consequences of it.
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Yes, you are right. We all own the consequences of our words and deeds, including Phil.
Nobody ever said that speaking the truth as we see it, and following God's word, would be without ridicule. Phil and his family know that, all Christians know that, or should.
So yes, you are right, let people speak and let those who hear draw their own conclusion.
After all, we can sit here all day going back and forth with explanations and interpretations of what he said, or we think he meant to say. But in the end, we see it the way we want to, we support only those with whom we agree.
The lesson learned is for all. Grow a thicker hide, and yes, that includes any group of people, including minorities who are offended at any particular moment about anything that is being said, meant to be said, implied or hinted at.
 
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mac said:
Well, everything he said was in the bible somewhere....sounds like proselytizing to me...required by his religion.



Quite possible.
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My religion requires me to violate a grapefruit in public. I should be allowed to do so without consequence, because freedom.
 
'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much

mac said:
It appears to me that he has. Regardless, the point is irrelevant...as there is a duty of all followers of Christianity to spread the word of god, not just Priests and Pastors.
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Who cares
 
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Kobie said:
My religion requires me to violate a grapefruit in public. I should be allowed to do so without consequence, because freedom.
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Go for it.
 
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Kobie said:
Who cares
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Those that beleive in freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and the fundamentals of the American way of life.
 
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Kobie said:
My religion requires me to violate a grapefruit in public. I should be allowed to do so without consequence, because freedom.
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actually claims to religous fredoms usually need to be validated historically and doctrinally, as to prevent people from making such random claims
 
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