'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

CRUE CAB · Dec 22, 2013

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Johnson said:
Find yourself a female co-worker and ask her "hey, whats that useless flap of skin around a vagina called? A woman!" and see if you don't get fired for sexual harassment.

I mean out of work, totally unrelated to my job. OK? Keep up.

CRUE CAB · Dec 22, 2013

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mac said:
I see them both "standing up" for what they believe.

Not in Rosa case, she was going to sit where she wanted. Period.

CRUE CAB · Dec 22, 2013

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calamity said:
At issue is the whole 18-30 demographic. The network does not want to alienate the people of the future. Duck dude is a short-lived phenomenon.

The young, most of whom are sexually liberated and made up of more than one color, are the people A&E wants to keep on board. Duck Dynasty fans are pretty much a dying breed.

Really, everyone in our area I see wearing shirts and hats from DD are way way younger than me.

calamity · Dec 22, 2013

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ecofarm said:
No one said vagina or anus was the most important thing. Just that vagina is better and that's a fact.

You're smart enough to know that it all depends on whether a person is straight or gay. It's like a Japanese person saying a bowl of seaweed is better than Boston Cobb salad--it's all relative to your own specific tastes and desires.

CRUE CAB · Dec 22, 2013

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calamity said:
Well, if I said that the Japanese were a bunch of Seaweed eating, sneak attacking untrustworthy creeps...I'd also be sending out resumes.

Well, must suck being in your job.

ecofarm · Dec 22, 2013

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calamity said:
You're smart enough to know that it all depends on whether a person is straight or gay.

I would be happy to contend that vaginas are objectively better than anuses.

calamity · Dec 22, 2013

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CRUE CAB said:
Really, everyone in our area I see wearing shirts and hats from DD are way way younger than me.

Funny because until this week, I never heard of them.

ecofarm · Dec 22, 2013

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CRUE CAB said:
Well, must suck being in your job.

If that flies, one must work at a very racist place.

ttwtt78640 · Dec 22, 2013

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calamity said:
Funny because until this week, I never heard of them.

Seriously? They even have DD characters offered as Chia Pets.

shrubnose · Dec 22, 2013

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mac said:
Oh yes they have. They have punished him for what he said. That is censorship.

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No,it's not censorship. Censorship is when you are not allowed to say what you want to say.No one stopped Phil Richardson from running his mouth.

The man said what he wanted to say, and now he's paying a price for that.

That's the way that the 1st Amendment works.

No one gets to run their mouth in the USA without response (Often negative.) from those who disagree with what they have said.

"The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen." ~ Tommy Smothers

paddymcdougall · Dec 22, 2013

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mac said:
That's not true...it's only unconstitutional if the government does it. If it's someone else, it's still censorship....while not illegal, still a violation of a basic human right.

You must really hate the moderators on this board. They are censoring you with every post. You can't write whatever you want here (which in my opinion is a good thing after having been on boards that brag about "free speech" but end up turning into troll forums, with nasty insults in every post.)

If Robertson had been censored, we never would have read the remarks.

Robertson WAS censored by A&E on the show itself; they had restrictions on what they could say as part of the show. Yet no one is fuming about that (including me - A&E's show, their rules)

grip · Dec 22, 2013

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shrubnose said:
No,it's not censorship. Censorship is when you are not allowed to say what you want to say.No one stopped Phil Richardson from running his mouth.

The man said what he wanted to say, and now he's paying a price for that.

That's the way that the 1st Amendment works.

No one gets to run their mouth in the USA without response (Often negative.) from those who disagree with what they have said.

"The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen." ~ Tommy Smothers

I just read this article where the Cracker Barrel removed some products with Phil's face. I'm surprised they hadn't done this earlier to stimulate appetite...lol

You know as a country folk you done bad when the Crackers are against you.

ocean515 · Dec 22, 2013

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justabubba said:
share with us what was got wrong
explain the context of his words and how that would change the meaning of what he said
i will be awaiting your reply with this insight

I couldn't care less how long you wait. Your post contains the essence of the BS that's plaguing the left on this issue.

I don't hold out any hope that you'd have the ability to decern my words any differently than the many others who have tried, but he was asked what sin was, and he answered.

Adding in words that don't exist is only the food by which you and others gather the intellectual nutrition you've become addicted to.

mac · Dec 22, 2013

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Lord Tammerlain said:
So by commenting about gays he was trying to convert gays to Christianity, when many if not most in the US are already Christian?

Since it was an interview it was more of his opinion based on his religion rather then an attempt at proselytism.

Well, everything he said was in the bible somewhere....sounds like proselytizing to me...required by his religion.

Either way it I expect broke the clauses within his contract with A&E

Quite possible.

Johnson · Dec 22, 2013

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CRUE CAB said:
I mean out of work, totally unrelated to my job. OK? Keep up.

Keep up? You said you can say anything and not get fired. You didn't say a word about on the job or not on the job.

mac · Dec 22, 2013

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shrubnose said:
No,it's not censorship. Censorship is when you are not allowed to say what you want to say.No one stopped Phil Richardson from running his mouth.

The man said what he wanted to say, and now he's paying a price for that.

That's the way that the 1st Amendment works.

No one gets to run their mouth in the USA without response (Often negative.) from those who disagree with what they have said.

"The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen." ~ Tommy Smothers

It is censorship if you are being punished for what you say.

mac · Dec 22, 2013

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calamity said:
If he simply said it was a sin, he'd probably be OK today. It was the rant about homosexuals--you know, the vagina versus the anus part--and, then him adding in that bit about Blacks being happier before civil rights which A&E could not abide.

That's simply a guess on your part.

mac · Dec 22, 2013

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shrubnose said:
No,it's not censorship. Censorship is when you are not allowed to say what you want to say.No one stopped Phil Richardson from running his mouth.

The man said what he wanted to say, and now he's paying a price for that.

That's the way that the 1st Amendment works.

No one gets to run their mouth in the USA without response (Often negative.) from those who disagree with what they have said.

"The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen." ~ Tommy Smothers

Censorship is also being punished for saying what you say. Responding to what is said is not the same as punishing those that say it.

mac · Dec 22, 2013

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paddymcdougall said:
You must really hate the moderators on this board. They are censoring you with every post. You can't write whatever you want here (which in my opinion is a good thing after having been on boards that brag about "free speech" but end up turning into troll forums, with nasty insults in every post.)

And you agree to allow them to do that when you sign up.

If Robertson had been censored, we never would have read the remarks.

Robertson WAS censored by A&E on the show itself; they had restrictions on what they could say as part of the show. Yet no one is fuming about that (including me - A&E's show, their rules)

Censorship is also punishing someone for what was said. And, if there were such clauses in his contract, oh well for Phil.

calamity · Dec 22, 2013

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CRUE CAB said:
Well, must suck being in your job.

Not at all. Pay is great, expectations are reasonable...can't think of anything I'd rather do all day.

calamity · Dec 22, 2013

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ecofarm said:
I would be happy to contend that vaginas are objectively better than anuses.

I think they are too...even on a woman. BUt, I'm lucky. I don't have to deal with being Gay, and somehow finding a way to live in harmony with people who think like Phil Robertson.

calamity · Dec 22, 2013

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mac said:
That's simply a guess on your part.

I think A&E already bent over backwards here by only suspending him. It's pretty clear they are hoping it blows over. Had the moron simply stated a minimalist comment about him not agreeing with the gay lifestyle because it is a sin--and, also left alone that weird the Japanese have no Jesus and Blacks never sang the Blues until after MLK stirred em all up thang--he would have been back on the set next season.

Lord Tammerlain · Dec 22, 2013

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mac said:
Well, everything he said was in the bible somewhere....sounds like proselytizing to me...required by his religion.

Quite possible.

Just because you are saying something from the bible does not mean you are proselytizing. if you are talking to other Christians you are not trying to convert anyone, they are already converted

calamity · Dec 22, 2013

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mac said:
Censorship is also being punished for saying what you say. Responding to what is said is not the same as punishing those that say it.

Again, where were your cries of "Censorship" when Martin Brashir was being drummed off MSNBC?

shrubnose · Dec 22, 2013

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mac said:
It is censorship if you are being punished for what you say

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Anyone in the USA who thinks that they can say whatever they want to say and there will be no response or negative replies is living in a dream world.

The man said what he wanted to say, now he's paying a price for that.

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