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'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

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CRUE CAB said:
You know even Sara Palin didnt want him fired. So that throws out the window your comparison.
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It wasn't really sarah palin's view point I was pointing out, rather Mac's and Faux's and the vast hypocrisy seen(on faux's part) not necessarily Mac
 
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mac said:
Why is it laughable?
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To refer to Duck Dude as the Rosa Parks of this generation? How is it not?
 
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mac said:
If you punish someone for expressing an opinion, you are violating their first amendment right to free speech. That violation isn't always enforceable through law, though. There is nothing dishonest about that.
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If the government punishes someone for expressing an opinion, that is violating their first amendment right. A private employer is not, because when it comes to a private employer or venue, the first amendment right to free speech doesn't exist unless contractually stated.

Would you say the moderators of DP who infract posters are violating their free speech rights?

The "dishonest part" was attempting to reframe the term "first-amendment issue" away from the context in which it's been used in this thread. But no worries.
 
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winston53660 said:
As long as your not on the clock one can say whatever they want IMHO. Barring disbarring the product.
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That is not how the First Amendment has been interpreted ever.
 
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mac said:
I didn't say once that they can not fire you. Not once. The closest I said is "doesn't automatically grant them the right to fire you." Which it doesn't, in the sense that companies are always legally protected in doing so.
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I can't go running around town bashing the customers of the company I work for without running the risk of being fired. In fact, if I gave an interview for a trade magazine and started calling our Japanese customers a bunch of slanty-eyed SOB's who we should have nuked to kingdom come, I'd probably be a goner before the interview was even completed.
 
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fmw said:
The loser in this will be A&E because, in the end the Robertsons will move the show to a different network and A&E will lose their major money maker. So what they did is a poor business decision. I'm not even going to get into the comments because I don't care what bearded people or non bearded people say on TV shows. I'm a businessman the outcome of this thing seems pretty easy to determine.
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No network will touch someone who's liable, at any time, to alienate viewers. Viewers aren't customers, they're production- what the network sells to their customers.
 
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calamity said:
I can't go running around town bashing the customers of the company I work for without running the risk of being fired. In fact, if I gave an interview for a trade magazine and started calling our Japanese customers a bunch of slanty-eyed SOB's who we should have nuked to kingdom come, I'd probably be a goner before the interview was even completed.
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Still not what Phil Robertson was doing.
 
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Grand Mal said:
No network will touch someone who's liable, at any time, to alienate viewers. Viewers aren't customers, they're production- what the network sells to their customers.
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Really, I wonder how may gay duck hunters there are out there that are all of a sudden alienated?
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Really, I wonder how may gay duck hunters there are out there that are all of a sudden alienated?
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You do realize there are other shows on A&E besides Duck Dynasty, and that the companies that own A&E own many other entertainment subsidiaries with a multitude of sponsors, yes? A&E's concern isn't alienating viewers of Duck Dynasty, it's that the comments make the network look bad, since Duck Man is a representative of the network.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Still not what Phil Robertson was doing.
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Well, if I said that the Japanese were a bunch of Seaweed eating, sneak attacking untrustworthy creeps...I'd also be sending out resumes.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Really, I wonder how may gay duck hunters there are out there that are all of a sudden alienated?
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At issue is the whole 18-30 demographic. The network does not want to alienate the people of the future. Duck dude is a short-lived phenomenon.

The young, most of whom are sexually liberated and made up of more than one color, are the people A&E wants to keep on board. Duck Dynasty fans are pretty much a dying breed.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Really, I wonder how may gay duck hunters there are out there that are all of a sudden alienated?
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If you decide where Mazda spends it's ad bucks you might wonder, too, and look around elsewhere.
Because not all gays are wearing pink tutus in San Francisco parades. There's still the same percentage in Weaselpiss, Georgia as there is in Detroit, Michigan.
 
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Grand Mal said:
If you decide where Mazda spends it's ad bucks you might wonder, too, and look around elsewhere.
Because not all gays are wearing pink tutus in San Francisco parades. There's still the same percentage in Weaselpiss, Georgia as there is in Detroit, Michigan.
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style points awarded for the weaselpiss, georgia reference
 
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Kobie said:
To refer to Duck Dude as the Rosa Parks of this generation? How is it not?
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I see them both "standing up" for what they believe.
 
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Grand Mal said:
If you decide where Mazda spends it's ad bucks you might wonder, too, and look around elsewhere.
Because not all gays are wearing pink tutus in San Francisco parades. There's still the same percentage in Weaselpiss, Georgia as there is in Detroit, Michigan.
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I've heard Weaselpiss, Georgia is lovely this time of year.
 
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mac said:
I see them both "standing up" for what they believe.
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Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat on the bus in protest of discriminatory policies under Jim Crow.

Duck Guy got suspended by his employer for "morphing out" homosexuality into beastiality and talking about his distaste for the male anus.

Totally the same. :roll:

I believe that Joe Pesci is the One True God who will save us from the alien invasion. Am I like Rosa Parks too? :rock
 
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calamity said:
I can't go running around town bashing the customers of the company I work for without running the risk of being fired. In fact, if I gave an interview for a trade magazine and started calling our Japanese customers a bunch of slanty-eyed SOB's who we should have nuked to kingdom come, I'd probably be a goner before the interview was even completed.
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Could they fire you for, on your own time and away from the workplace, practicing your religion?
 
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Kobie said:
Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat on the bus in protest of discriminatory policies under Jim Crow.

Duck Guy got suspended by his employer for "morphing out" homosexuality into beastiality and talking about his distaste for the male anus.

Totally the same. :roll:

I believe that Joe Pesci is the One True God who will save us from the alien invasion. Am I like Rosa Parks too? :rock
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If you're willing to face public persecution defending that belief, then yeah, you are.
 
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mac said:
If you're willing to face public persecution defending that belief, then yeah, you are.
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Okay. :roll:
 
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Kobie said:
Okay. :roll:
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That's how a lot of people thought about Rosa back in the day.
 
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mac said:
That's how a lot of people thought about Rosa back in the day.
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Rosa Parks' rights were being violated. Duck Guy's are not.
 
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Kobie said:
Rosa Parks' rights were being violated. Duck Guy's are not.
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Not at the time, they weren't.
 
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mac said:
That's how a lot of people thought about Rosa back in the day.
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Rosa Parks faced criminal persecution
 
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justabubba said:
style points awarded for the weaselpiss, georgia reference
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Gracias.
 
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Kobie said:
I've heard Weaselpiss, Georgia is lovely this time of year.
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Compared to Bullpasture, Manitoba it's heavenly.
 
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