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'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

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calamity said:
It's easy because you all are not followers of Christ. You call yourselves Christians, but you follow something much darker than love. They follow an ugly ideal; they snort at sinners; most look down on the poor, actually blame them for their poverty, argue to deny immigrants healthcare and a place to live, and enough of the American Christians are racists that I suspect a large segment of the American Christian movement is little different than the KKK, just without the sheets or the need to set fire to crosses.
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I will grant you that just as there are "secular Jews," there are "cultural Christians" who were born/reared in a Christian denomination but who are not themselves practicing Christians. You know who they are by their fruits.

What is this "American Christian movement" that you speak of? You've referred to it twice now, and I've never heard of it.
 
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calamity said:
1. In one of these "Phil Threads", I've been pretty busy arguing another "dog whistle" remark of his with Excon. You know, the one where Blacks were happier before they had a right to vote and drink from public water fountains.

As shown in my link, Phil is full of little ideas. Isn't he? I'm glad the Right Wing finds his comments worth defending. It's mighty Christian of them to defend hate speech while ignoring the plight of the poor. Hey, maybe the RW will be so busy defending haters now, they won't have time to try taking away poor people's healthcare again.
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Which of course is not what Robertson actually said, but why should you have to live in the real world at this point. The "happier" bit has been added by copy editors, but nowhere in that quote does he say they were happier.


2.Robertson is a hater using the words in the Bible to justify his bigoted nonsense. Too bad you fail to see it.
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Whereas you are sunshine and light towards those who disagree with you. :roll:

From the same interview:

“We never, ever judge someone on who’s going to heaven, hell. That’s the Almighty’s job. We just love ’em, give ’em the good news about Jesus—whether they’re homosexuals, drunks, terrorists. We let God sort ’em out later, you see what I’m saying?” - Phil Robertson

Yeah, total hate speech. :roll:
 
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Boo Radley said:
Quite whining. Your inability to address what is actually said us your problem. Period.
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Got that contract clause yet?
 
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nota bene said:
I will grant you that just as there are "secular Jews," there are "cultural Christians" who were born/reared in a Christian denomination but who are not themselves practicing Christians. You know who they are by their fruits.

What is this "American Christian movement" that you speak of? You've referred to it twice now, and I've never heard of it.
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The homophobic hate-filled segment of the country that considers itself the Christian Right. We all know them, although few admit they are evil bastards. I'm talking about the Churches of hate led by Ralph Reed, Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, to name a few of the more popular ones.
 
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jmotivator said:
Which of course is not what Robertson actually said, but why should you have to live in the real world at this point. The "happier" bit has been added by copy editors, but nowhere in that quote does he say they were happier.
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Nonsense. He clearly stated that the blacks he knew in the 50's were happy, singing and loving life picking cotton while comparing it to today's welfare and entitlement state. What exactly do you think he meant?





Whereas you are sunshine and light towards those who disagree with you. :roll:

From the same interview:

“We never, ever judge someone on who’s going to heaven, hell. That’s the Almighty’s job. We just love ’em, give ’em the good news about Jesus—whether they’re homosexuals, drunks, terrorists. We let God sort ’em out later, you see what I’m saying?” - Phil Robertson

Yeah, total hate speech. :roll:
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I'm sure I can find a few nice things Manson said and Mao and Stalin and Hitler and probably even Jeffrey Dahmer.

What's your point?
 
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Kobie said:
I've been reading Magary's stuff for years, and you haven't the first clue what you're talking about regarding his "biases".
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Sure, go with that. :roll:
 
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calamity said:
I'm sure I can find a few nice things Manson said and Mao and Stalin and Hitler and probably even Jeffrey Dahmer.

What's your point?
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Okay, now you're just being ugly and silly. Are you not interested in reasonable discussion?
 
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nota bene said:
Okay, now you're just being ugly and silly. Are you not interested in reasonable discussion?
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Because there is something going on in your "movement" when you fail to see hate for what it is. This comment shows that there is a sickness among you.
"Women with women. Men with men. They committed indecent acts with one another. And they received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. They're full of murder, envy, strife, hatred. They are insolent, arrogant God haters. They are heartless. They are faithless. They are senseless. They are ruthless. They invent ways of doing evil." -- Speaking at the 2010 Wild Game Supper in Pottstown, Pa.
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For, you see. If only people who subscribe to this type of thinking took the time to challenge their own preconceived notions of the others that they judge. We'd see less of it.

The objective observer sees plenty of the traits Phil is complaining about in that quote amongst the heterosexuals. In fact, since heteros are the majority of the planet, it's pretty clear that they are the majority of those who do what he is whining about.

He and all those who buy into this garbage he's spewing should really rethink that idea.
 
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Duck Dynasty's Robertson Swamp Hicks Family

Hard growing up as poor white trash and become a star college quarterback, but somehow Phil Robertson pulled it off.



Now Willie Robertson (CEO of Duck Commander) and his family are the poster family for Louisiana Swamp Hicks.



Of course Jase Robertson and his family are classic rednecks...trying to look like Yuppies.


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And here's all of the Robertson Brothers after a hard day of picking cotton. They wanted to follow in their dad's footsteps.

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jmotivator said:
Age of consent in the US is predominantly 16 years of age (30 states), which is the age Phil married Miss Kay, so I suppose it's preferable that they are married, at least. Having sex at 16 is more objectionable to me than the getting married at 16, though, by a wide margin.
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Seriously? You know if they get married at 16 they're having sex at 16 - at least after marriage.

And marriage - you're saying it's better if someone at age 16 who doesn't really have a clue what they will end up doing gets married (so they can have sex) - a technically lifetime commitment - rather than have some sex (protected) and give themselves time to find out who they are and what they want to be.

Yes, some couples that get married at 16 work out. Lots don't.

I would hate to see a 16 yr old getting married; it's too permanent a commitment.
 
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calamity said:
Nonsense. He clearly stated that the blacks he knew in the 50's were happy, singing and loving life picking cotton while comparing it to today's welfare and entitlement state. What exactly do you think he meant?
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Why do you continue to lie?
He said no such thing.
He was asked a question of a specific time period.. He answered with his own personal experience. He made no comparison.
So stop lying.
 
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Removable Mind said:
Duck Dynasty's Robertson Swamp Hicks Family

Hard growing up as poor white trash and become a star college quarterback, but somehow Phil Robertson pulled it off.

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[B]Now Willie Robertson (CEO of Duck Commander) and his family are the poster family for Louisiana Swamp Hicks.[/B]

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[B]Of course Jase Robertson and his family are classic rednecks...trying to look like Yuppies.
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[B]And here's all of the Robertson Brothers after a hard day of picking cotton. They wanted to follow in their dad's footsteps.[/B]

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You have no point.
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For a glimpse at the REAL DUCK DYNASTY FAMILY...SEE POST #909​
 
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Excon said:
Why do you continue to lie?
He said no such thing.
He was asked a question of a specific time period.. He answered with his own personal experience. He made no comparison.
So stop lying.
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The only lies here are you and your ilk arguing that he didn't say what the rest of us all know he did.

On growing up in pre-civil-rights-era Louisiana:

“I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person. Not once. Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I'm with the blacks, because we're white trash. We're going across the field.... They're singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, ‘I tell you what: These doggone white people’—not a word!...

Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues.”

Read More The Gospel According to Phil: The Q: GQ
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You've brought this up before, RM. People have been discussing this since at least March of this year, so what's your point? That the Robertsons are frauds? Did they keep their family pics secret?
 
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Excon said:
You have no point.
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You, OTIH, are on that RW bandwagon rushing to defend a racist homophobe.
 
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calamity said:
I'm not sure it matters. I find it strange that you do. Phil never picked cotton for life. He maybe did it one season or two, tops. He has no idea what it's like to be a black man/woman tied to the fields. Yet, he has the audacity to claim, "They were happy."
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what a ridiculous statement, I worked along blacks in the fields and no one was tied
 
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Removable Mind said:
For you...of course not.
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No. In regards to appearance.
People change and/or grow into a different appearance all the time.
You have no point.


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OMG! Willie was a yuppy before they knew what a yuppy was. My how he has changed.
D'oh!
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calamity said:
You, OTIH, are on that RW bandwagon rushing to defend a racist homophobe.
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Still telling lies huh? Figures.

He said nothing racist or homophobic.
 
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Removable Mind said:
For a glimpse at the REAL DUCK DYNASTY FAMILY...SEE POST #909​
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That is no more real than how they appear now.
 
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calamity said:
The only lies here are you and your ilk arguing that he didn't say what the rest of us all know he did.
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Wrong.
The lies are all yours saying he made a comparison he didn't make and saying he said something he didn't say.
What you are doing is dishonest and called lying.
 
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nota bene said:
You've brought this up before, RM. People have been discussing this since at least March of this year, so what's your point? That the Robertsons are frauds? Did they keep their family pics secret?
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I think you'd find, if you bother to look, that most of the celebrity Right Wing folks are frauds...you know like Mother Moose Sarah and her supposed hunting skills.
Sarah Palin's Shooting | Field & Stream
Ms. Palin is an extremely inexperienced shooter.

First, she allows her dad and the guide, who are both apparently nitwits, to jabber at her continually throughout the performance, make suggestions, swap rifles when it turns out that the first one has a bum scope (!), and allow her to blaze away at a moving animal.

An experienced shooter knows that when he (she) picks up a gun, he (she) is responsible for it, and the way it works. If you have doubts about its safety, you don’t use it. Before you shoot at something living, you check to see if it’s sighted in. Period. No excuses.

If nitwits are yammering at you, you tell them to shut the f**ck up because you can’t concentrate. No experienced shooter would put up with their nonsense.

An experienced shooter would not ask if a rifle kicks before using it in the heat of battle. That would not be uppermost in their mind; getting the animal down would be.

Why, before the fatal shot was fired, did the editor of the film superimpose a bogus crosshair on the poor dopey caribou? Why do we not see Ms. Palin firing the rifle? Is it because she did not do the shooting?

Finally, look at the way she carries the rifle as the party walks up to the late lamented ungulate. No experienced shooter carries a rifle like this.
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re: 'Duck Dynasty': A&E warned Phil Robertson about speaking out too much [W:1111]

Duckk is George Wallace reincarnate, but present day..
He is Jefferson Davis IV, after the civil war, the 1920s version, the 1960s version, and of course now .
 
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